Posted on 12/21/2010 3:42:42 PM PST by NoLibZone
Please read this morning’s article in the WSJ by John Fund to learn the truth about ‘net neutrality’. It will chill you to the bone. The link is in post #100.
If the Supreme Court has already ruled that the FCC doesn’t have the authority, why does Congress need to repeal anything?
Because, if the FCC chooses to exert its non-existent authority, the industry it regulates must still comply. As As Andrew Jackson observed, the court has no way to enforce its decision.
The industry can bring suit, of course. Or they can just go along -- as the smaller members of the industry will choose, due to the massive legal expense involved in a court challenge. But shouldn't that burden be an unneccesary expense?
On balance, this affair is an object example of why "Big Government" begets "Big Business". It's a matter of self-defense.
Hear, hear. I’m with you on that. Out with the RINO’s and in with the conservatives.
hear hear. WELL SAID. It is obvious as to what they are wanting to do.....
Talk’s cheap. We’ll see if the new Congressmen and Senators have the balls for hand-to-hand with Obama and his fascists. The smirk on the face of that little liberal weenie FCC chairman was the icing on the cake for me.
By the time they can get around to this the Soros Coup will have done at least 5 more things that are just as bad.
It’s Cloward-Piven on the legislative level. Bombard the country with so many crap sandwiches at once that we can’t even swallow before the next thing is going down. Keeps us unable to fight back. At least legislatively.
The galling thing about this, if I understand correctly, is that the FCC has already been told by the federal courts that they can’t do this.... but the Soros Coup is once again ignoring the rule of law.
See, that’s the difference between us and the thugs. No matter how crooked the judge is, if the court rules it we abide by it. The thugs own the courts but wouldn’t do anything differently even if they didn’t, because the thugs just ignore the rule of law.
Reminds me of the saying, “Locks are for honest people.”
The Soros Coup and the dems that enable it are lawless thugs and we the people need to find a way to MAKE them obey the rule of law.
It had better be a sight more than a “threat,” but grateful they are thinking this way.
Comcast was caught limiting certain kinds of traffic a couple of years ago. Which meant they had to examine what kind of traffic it was, in order to limit it.
But the fact Obama is for it and Boehner is against it tells me a lot right there.
I fear that may just be a function of who gives money to whom. Content providers (Google, Amazon) have generally been in favor of net neutrality, and the ISPs have been against it. I bet if you scratched the surface you'd find that the former supported Obama and Democrats, and the latter supported Republicans.
I understand how you feel, but I'd rather make my decision on the merits of the proposal than on who's on which side. Net neutrality is more or less what we've had up til now, and the Internet seems to be working fine. The ISPs want to change that so they can make us pay more for certain things. Without further information, I can't see why that's in my best interest.
The Republicans can stuff it up their anuses. Where were they for START, DADT, etc.
Screw them, every single one of them.
Frankly I’m not interested in anything Obama, Pelosi or you are selling. Let’s leave the internet alone the way it is and let the marketplace decide.
What you’re missing is that enforcing net neutrality *is* leaving the Internet the way it is. It’s the opponents of net neutrality that want to change things.
Wrong. I am not missing anything. You are. We don’t a 3-2 FCC to mess with the internet. You can side with the liberals if you wish. Hopefully the Republicans in the new congress will undo this order.
Some recent ISP violations of the principle aside, net neutrality is what we have now. It's all basically been "how the Internet has always been" so far with a gentleman's agreement, but the ISPs have shown they don't want to act gentlemanly anymore. For me, the question is how to maintain it with the ISPs desiring to destroy it. I don't believe that the market can solve this with the powerful monopolies and duopolies the ISPs often have. On the other hand, I don't trust the FCC either. It's tough.
You're going to have to come up with some concrete examples other than the ancient ones you cited yesterday. Who says the ISP don't want to act gentlemanly? The FCC? Jay Rockefeller? Henry Waxman?
Do you believe them?
They are historical examples, which is all that is necessary.
I don't agree. Businesses and customers have honest disagreements every single day and usually they are resolved without government involvement. Isolated examples of these disagreements do not a pattern make. Such a 'pattern or practice' might require government intervention, but to date it just ain't happening.
I've had problems with my ISP over the years, but I pick up the phone and we work it out. I'm a good customer that pays the bills on time and they respond.
But to bring in a government agency with a history of censorship (see 'Fairness Doctrine') and put them in charge because of something that might happen in the future just not jive with libertarian/conservative dogma.
You must realize that Apple was founded on closed architecture.
Control is Woz’s basic belief.
Had Apple won the PC battle there might never have been a web.
I submit the need to go through Itunes to purchase apps or even get free ones for an Iphone.
I love Apple.
My first PC was a IIci and I have two Iphone4’s but he is wrong about his control theories.
Okay - work on your little bill.
It’ll never get through the Senate.
Here’s our middle finger and have a nice day. :)
-your friends on the left
But the examples given aren't issues with individual customers at all, or even groups of customers. They're issues with types of Internet traffic. You seem to be assuming that the ISPs wouldn't ever do that again, or that they wouldn't ever do it to a type of traffic you're interested in. I think that confidence is misplaced.
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