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Graham: DREAM Act push damaged wider immigration reform effort (RINO planned amnesty push in 2011)
The Hill, Washington, DC ^ | 2010-12-18 | Ben Geman

Posted on 12/18/2010 2:57:27 PM PST by rabscuttle385

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said Saturday that the failed Democratic effort to pass the DREAM Act in the lame duck session dealt a blow to future talks on a wider immigration bill.

“It was an exercise to try and taint Republicans with Hispanic voters, knowing that the DREAM Act under these circumstances could never pass,” Graham told reporters in the Capitol after the bill sputtered on the floor.

“What they have done on the DREAM Act is hurt overall comprehensive immigration reform,” he said.

The DREAM Act, which would give legal status to illegal immigrants who came to the country at a young age, lived here for at least five years, graduated from high school and attended college or served in the military, fell five votes short of the 60 needed to overcome a GOP-led filibuster — 55 to 41.

Graham has worked with Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) in the past to try and seek a Capitol Hill compromise on a wider reform plan -- one that would blend increased enforcement and border security with a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, among other measures.

He said the DREAM Act effort will make it harder to bridge divides on immigration, noting the impassioned advocacy on both sides of the issue.

“Our base is all riled up that this is amnesty, so you have taken a debate on immigration, one part of it, you have gotten people emotional before you can sit down and reason your way through a comprehensive bill,” Graham said. “Doing this vote the way they did it has hurt the ability to do comprehensive reform next year to some extent.”


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“Doing this vote the way they did it has hurt the ability to do comprehensive reform next year to some extent.”

FULG! FUJM! FUBO!

1 posted on 12/18/2010 2:57:34 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

No matter who says it, “comprehensive immigration reform” is code for AMNESTY!!!!


2 posted on 12/18/2010 3:00:03 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Nothing sharpens the mind like not being able to get a job. /Nonstatist)
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3 posted on 12/18/2010 3:00:12 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

I wont rest easy until the 111th. congress is OVER.


4 posted on 12/18/2010 3:03:39 PM PST by Carley (ISRAEL.......NOT SO ALONE!!!)
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To: rabscuttle385

This guy Graham has really got to be hooked out of the Senate next time he comes up for election, which unfortunately isn’t for some time. In the meantime, we need to pressure the leadership to get some sort of control over him. What a loser.


5 posted on 12/18/2010 3:05:12 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: rabscuttle385

His idea and our idea of immigration reform are two different things.
1. enforce our employment laws
2. finish the fence and close the physical border with additional BP and troops if necessary.
3. Zero tolerance for any illegal immigrant who breaks the law..locked up until deported.
4. End sanctuary cities
5. No more automatic citizenship for illegal immigrants children born here.
6. End family chain migration. New immigrants selected by qoutas and qualifications.
7. Foreigners entering the US issued biometric card and post a bond that guarantees they leave on time.
8. No education, welfare, medical care for illegals.
9. Banks forbidden from giving credit or mortgages to illegals residing in the US.
Now that is immigration reform..


6 posted on 12/18/2010 3:06:07 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: rabscuttle385

"That's right, Lindsey, Cindy's gone for the weekend! Get out the gladiator movies!"


7 posted on 12/18/2010 3:06:51 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Graham is a traitor! Boot his ass out of the Senate!!

FULG!!


8 posted on 12/18/2010 3:07:11 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: COBOL2Java

The blind leading the deaf.


9 posted on 12/18/2010 3:10:25 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Carley

And even then, we have to look out for these RINOs. Isn’t there some way the Republicans can come up with a real conservative to run against Graham?


10 posted on 12/18/2010 3:15:02 PM PST by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: rabscuttle385

Not one of these scumbag politicians has ever explained WHY we need “comprehensive immigration reform”. ‘RAT voter registrations are on the rise so what’s the problem?


11 posted on 12/18/2010 3:15:39 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Merry Christmas to all of my FReeper FRiends!)
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To: freedumb2003
comprehensive immigration reform...

...never means really control the border. Doing that is always dismissed by advocates of "CIR" as impossible.

12 posted on 12/18/2010 3:17:00 PM PST by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Cheers!

13 posted on 12/18/2010 3:17:02 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Lindsey Graham has long been a Democrat-Lite traitor to conservative Republican principles. However, Senator light-in-the-loafers showed his hand with this comment about the chances for ‘comprehensive immigration reform’ (translation: amnesty) “next year” being hurt by the failed DREAM act, which roused Americans to recognize it as amnesty by another name - which Graham tactically admits - and reject it (via their senator’s votes). This is a battle won but a fight that is far from over as long as we have liberal Democrat politicians in congress and feckless, fake Republicans such as Lindsey Graham and John McCain (among others) pushing amnesty bills for illegal aliens. I hope the 112th congress doesn’t disappoint but - like many Freepers - I’ll believe it when I see it.


14 posted on 12/18/2010 3:17:08 PM PST by Jim Scott
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To: rabscuttle385

In contrast, Mark Krikorian has some thoughts on going on the offensive re: illegal immigration next year:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/255626/requiem-dream-mark-krikorian

I may be a radical, but I think I’d require all current employees to be churne through e-verify as a one-time thing while also applying it to future new hires.


15 posted on 12/18/2010 3:18:30 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: rabscuttle385

I wish Lindsay would get caught trying to hit on little boys, get drummed out of the senate, and then have Nikki Haley appoint his replacement.

It would really “queer” the shamnesty proclivity among RINOs.


16 posted on 12/18/2010 3:23:55 PM PST by ratsreek
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To: rabscuttle385; alarm rider; Alex1977; at bay; Babsig; BILL_C; bnelson44; Clintonfatigued; ...
“What they have done on the DREAM Act is hurt overall comprehensive immigration reform,” he>/strike> Linda said. "

Linda make it sound like that's a bad thing. What a maroon.

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17 posted on 12/18/2010 3:30:53 PM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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To: rabscuttle385
one that would blend increased enforcement and border security with a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants Enforce the existing laws dummy

Typical Graham RINO "Alice in Wonderland" approach gets it exactly ass backwards.

As in Citizenship first Enforcement Second.

18 posted on 12/18/2010 3:34:45 PM PST by spokeshave (Islamics and Democrats unite to cut off Adam Smith's invisible hand)
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To: rabscuttle385

I am extremely grateful that Democrats got their priorities mixed up after they gained strong control of government. Democrats should have made immigration reform their top priority because immigration reform (with amnesty) would have assured Democrat control of government after the amnesty recipients became eligible to vote. Democrats would have needed some compromises regarding border security and enforcement of immigration laws but they could have passed a bill with a major amnesty component possibly with some restrictions on welfare and family reunification. Democrats only needed 1 or 2 Republican votes so the compromises would not have been major.

Instead Democrats wasted enormous time on energy and health care. The health care bill has been a bitter success as the public became disgusted with the lack of compromise and the underhanded manner in which the bill passed. Courts may overturn part of Obamacare. In addition, the Republican House may refuse to fund parts of Obamacare. The health care bill cost Democrats control of the House with uncertain future for the health care bill.

I praise the ghost of Democrat bungling and arrogance. Only bungling and arrogance could have stopped permanent Democrat control of government.


19 posted on 12/18/2010 3:36:29 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: rabscuttle385

Lind-she upset he won’t get the credit for his part in ruining the United States.


20 posted on 12/18/2010 3:37:42 PM PST by dforest
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To: freedumb2003
No matter who says it, “comprehensive immigration reform” is code for AMNESTY!!!!

Nothing could be truer. But Graham has his own code, as well.

“Our base is all riled up that this is amnesty...

Which is code for "Our bigoted base is too stupid to recognize that it's not amnesty...really...only kinda amnesty...in some cases...and we've got to trick 'em into thinking it's something else."

Turd.

21 posted on 12/18/2010 3:41:07 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Oldexpat
Now that is immigration reform..

Pretty well covers it.

22 posted on 12/18/2010 3:42:31 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Jim Robinson
Graham is a traitor! Boot his ass out of the Senate!!

What the HELL happened to LG? He was a champion during impeachment! Who got to him and how?

23 posted on 12/18/2010 3:44:12 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: rabscuttle385

Although I don’t like the idea of spending TARP money, I’d be in favor of spending some of it and buying out the neighbors of Lindsey Graham and all other amnesty backers and filling up their entire neighborhoods with illegals.


24 posted on 12/18/2010 3:48:03 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: businessprofessor
Courts may overturn part of Obamacare.

Additionally, since -- for whatever God-blessed (and I mean that literally) reason -- the Democrats forgot to put Severability in the bill -- if one part is Unconstitutional, the whole thing falls.

It's the error of a rank amateur lawmaker, and they did it.

I praise the ghost of Democrat bungling and arrogance.

I have observed over and over, within the last year, that the only thing that saved us from 1933-Germany Tyranny was Obama's pure incompetence and laziness, and the twin arrogance of Pelosi and Reid.

We got lucky.

This time.

25 posted on 12/18/2010 3:48:03 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: rabscuttle385

Remember Harry Reid said he was floating 4 DREAM ACT versions of the bill...today was just 1 version...there are 3 more out there...buried in God only knows.. STAY ALERT FOLKS!..it ain’t over until the last 1 leaves town...........


26 posted on 12/18/2010 3:57:25 PM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: freedumb2003

The only ‘reform’ most of us want to see on immigration is for the illegals to be put back south of the border & kept there. A serious fence built & manned appropriately.

Reform their ability to attend school.

Reform their ability to get welfare , Food Stamps, free school lunches & other social benefits.

Reform their ability to get any kind of health care-—even the kind that is common in Oakland every night of the week.

THAT is the beginning of reform, IMO.


27 posted on 12/18/2010 3:59:41 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: rabscuttle385
“What they have done on the DREAM Act is hurt overall comprehensive immigration reform,”

More living breathing Constitution mumbojumbo again.

It's getting to look like taking drugs is a requirement of entering the Washington Beltway as a politician.

The veteran politicians get the best cut.

28 posted on 12/18/2010 4:11:01 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: rabscuttle385

Every dark cloud has a silver lining.


29 posted on 12/18/2010 4:13:53 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Only criminals, dictators and democrats fear armed citizens.")
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To: ratsreek
I wish Lindsay would get caught trying to hit on little boys, get drummed out of the senate, and then have Nikki Haley appoint his replacement.

After the way the vote went on DADT today he will probably look into resigning the Senate and rejoining the Air Force.


30 posted on 12/18/2010 4:20:00 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Only criminals, dictators and democrats fear armed citizens.")
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To: rabscuttle385
Graham: DREAM Act push damaged wider immigration reform effort (RINO planned amnesty push in 2011.

2011? Hopefully the new Republican House of Representatives will have nothing to do with any amnesty schemes, and these Senate amnesty pushers can sit and fume and fuss for at least the next two years.

Eager to get a read on just how the new House will view this issue.

31 posted on 12/18/2010 4:26:56 PM PST by Will88
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To: MizSterious

“Isn’t there some way the Republicans can come up with a real conservative to run against Graham?”

Hang tight. Graham has already been censured by several county republican organizations, he’s the butt of jokes on talk radio and he can’t travel the state with a platoon-size Pretorian Guard.

He’s persona non grata in South Carolina. The line-up to run against Graham will be filled with impressive conservatives known in the state. He’ll be gone in 2014.


32 posted on 12/18/2010 4:28:45 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

“...and he can’t travel the state with a platoon-size Pretorian Guard.”

and he can’t travel the state WITHOUT a platoon-size Pretorian Guard.

Stupido!


33 posted on 12/18/2010 4:30:31 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: rabscuttle385

Well, the good news is that we won’t have to worry any more about Senator Lisa Murkowski being a RINO. For the next six years, she’ll be stabbing us in the front, rather than in the back.


34 posted on 12/18/2010 4:40:19 PM PST by Rybashka
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To: Cicero

Between him, Snowe, Collins, Murkowski, and a couple of others, the Rats have effectively 63 votes.


35 posted on 12/18/2010 4:45:55 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: freedumb2003

“He said the DREAM Act effort will make it harder to bridge divides on immigration, noting the impassioned advocacy on both sides of the issue.”

As far as I am concerned that divide will never be bridged. McCain and Graham area lower forms of life. Career, corrupt, self-serving parasites.

Republicans under George W. Bush betrayed the American people by attempting to force amnesty for millions of illegal aliens on the people. McCain had Juan Hernandez working on his presidential campaign. Hernandez was a member of the government of Vincente Fox Hernandez encourages all Mexicans who have become American citizens to retain dual citizenship and vote here and in Mexico.

I called McCain HQ and asked a young woman staffer whether Hernandez was working on the McCain campaign. The brain dead little idiot informed me that she was tired of people calling and asking that question.

She indignantly said that Hernandez was not a PAID member of the staff. She went on to say that they would take help anywhere they could get it. This is the caliber of people who are involved in politics in today’s America. I guess she is a product of the public schools.


36 posted on 12/18/2010 4:49:10 PM PST by SkipW
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To: Carley
None of us will “rest” until the new House is sworn in. I do think we should have a “comprehensive” immigration plan (reform). It starts with really closing the border, shipping home the criminals in our prisons (wherever they came from), and letting all the “undocumented” stand in line with everyone else. Merry Christmas and a very, very Happy New Year!
37 posted on 12/18/2010 5:04:02 PM PST by RWAubrey ("Men sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their b)
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To: sergeantdave
He’s persona non grata in South Carolina. The line-up to run against Graham will be filled with impressive conservatives known in the state. He’ll be gone in 2014.

All I can say is from your lips to God's ear. I pray the people of SC do NOT have short memories as he's capable of pulling the wool over their eyes should anything of a military crisis arise. He's outstanding in his support of our armed forces and people may forget the RINO behind the curtain.

38 posted on 12/18/2010 5:08:44 PM PST by StarFan
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To: RWAubrey

If we make sure that illegals are not hired they will self deport.

There are millions of Americans in need of jobs that are going to illegals.

Hopefully they’ll leave now and take their kids with them.


39 posted on 12/18/2010 5:10:56 PM PST by Carley (ISRAEL.......NOT SO ALONE!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Graham is a pissant


40 posted on 12/18/2010 5:11:03 PM PST by Bullfrogg (American by birth, Irish by heritage, and hellraiser by choice)
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To: rabscuttle385
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Shut up Princess.

41 posted on 12/18/2010 5:51:52 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ( I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did. Yogi Berra)
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To: StarFan

Thanks for your support. Patriots are lining up to take back our country.

Semper Fi and Merry Christmas, FRiend.


42 posted on 12/18/2010 5:51:55 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: rabscuttle385

Tea party target Graham. He is anxious to make illegal immigrants citizens.


43 posted on 12/18/2010 6:13:50 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: rabscuttle385

Pray tell Linds, why do you think a Boehner led House would have an interest in tackling amnesty next year? Do you know something we don’t or is this wishful thinking. Because I was under the impression based on Boehner’s own words their priorities were to reduce spending, reduce debt and dismantle Obamacare. Oh, and some of them want to have fun on the side by investigating the W.H. This hasn’t been on his public priority list that I’m aware of.


44 posted on 12/18/2010 6:29:47 PM PST by Soul Seeker ( I was there when we had the numbers, but didn’t have the principles.---Jim DeMint)
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To: rabscuttle385

Graham is so determined to screw up America. 2014 cannot come sooner enough

Most Americans know that Comprehensive Immigration Reform is Illegal Alien Amnesty. Idiot Graham better get a clue


45 posted on 12/18/2010 6:30:00 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Whenever something is "Global"...it means its bad for America)
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To: businessprofessor

I agree with the sentiment.

We barely stopped amnesty with a Republican government a few years ago. It was a vicious fight but we won.

Had the Democrats chosen to proceed with that first we may not have stopped it this time. Obamacare is bad, but still there is hope by striking down the individual mandate in the courts and cutting funding. There is no possible way we’d be able to undo an amnesty once granted.


46 posted on 12/18/2010 6:36:25 PM PST by Soul Seeker ( I was there when we had the numbers, but didn’t have the principles.---Jim DeMint)
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To: rabscuttle385
We dodged this bullet but they will continue till we get our Tea Party people into the next Congress.Don`t let up,we`ll celebrate when this Congress adjourns. http://www.alipac.us is my immigration email alert source, they`re an excellent source of info and strategy.
47 posted on 12/18/2010 6:48:04 PM PST by nomad
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To: nomad

http://www.alipac.us


48 posted on 12/18/2010 6:48:44 PM PST by nomad
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To: freedumb2003

Actually, there is a need for comprehensive immigration reform. Things will never get better otherwise. But it’s got to be immigration reform that favors the US and doesn’t have put anybody else’s interests ahead of ours.

I’d be happy to legalize lots of Latin Americans (who actually do work and are no different from all the other poor immigrant groups - Irish, Italians, Germans and Eastern European Jews - who arrived here, learned English in the second generation, and rose to the top by the third generation) in exchange for having no more Muslim immigrants, ever, and immediately kicking out any Muslim visa overstayer, any Muslim on welfare or any Muslim who has gotten here under “family reunion.”

But I’m willing to bet that what we’ll get will be something that will kick out the Latin Americans and bring in more Muslims. Mark my words.

That might make some Freepers (who hate Latin Americans) happy, but it’s going to destroy our country. Latin Americans don’t want to change the US, but Muslims do. Yet I’m willing to bet that they’re what the Dems and the RINOs are going to bring us.


49 posted on 12/18/2010 6:51:11 PM PST by livius
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To: rabscuttle385

“He said the DREAM Act effort will make it harder to bridge divides on immigration, noting the impassioned advocacy on both sides of the issue.”

Don’t much give a sht about the other side on this issue as the only side that counts is the American side.


50 posted on 12/18/2010 6:55:22 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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