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DADT Repeal & DREAM Act Get Their Day In The Senate Today (Limited Debate & Cloture Live Thread)
tpm ^ | December 18, 2010, 8:44AM | Evan McMorris-Santoro

Posted on 12/18/2010 7:35:51 AM PST by Red Steel

The Senate will act on two important pieces of President Obama's progressive legislative agenda today: the DREAM Act and the repeal of the military's ban on openly gay servicemembers. By the end of the day, the path to final passage is expected to be set for DADT repeal, while DREAM is expected to languish for another Congress to pass.

Starting at around 10:30 this morning, the Senate will take up a cloture vote on DREAM. Cloture -- voted in by a 60-senator super majority -- is required to cut off debate and move a bill to final passage in the Senate. DREAM, which would provide legal status for illegal immigrants who serve in the military or earn college degrees, is not expected to hit that mark, effectively scrapping the bill for the time being.

That will set the stage for a cloture vote on a standalone DADT repeal bill, which proponents say is destined for passage. That will be the first step toward ending the nearly two-decade practice of allowing gays and lesbians to serve in the military, but not if anyone who works with them knows they're gay. Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT), who has been the driving force behind lining up the votes for DADT repeal, says he has the 60 he needs and most observers expect there to be little drama today.

Lieberman and his allies in the Democratic caucus are expected to get help repealing DADT from at least four Republicans -- Sens. Scott Brown (MA), Susan Collins (ME), Lisa Murkowski (AK) and Olympia Snowe (ME). Most of the rest of the GOP caucus is expected to vote against it, though Lieberman said yesterday that the bill may pick up support from the GOP as it heads toward final passage.

On the Democratic side, Sen. Joe Manchin (WV) has not said whether he'll support the standalone bill -- and he voted against repeal the last time it came up, as part of a defense spending bill last week. Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND), who voted for cloture on the spending bill, has also not said how he'll vote. Proponents of repeal say they don't need either vote to win today.

Supposing cloture is reached (which, again, is all but a foregone conclusion according to supporters of repeal), a final vote on the bill to end DADT could come as early as today. More likely than not, however, 30 hours of final debate on the measure will be kicked off by the cloture vote. That puts a final repeal vote sometime late Sunday.

The House already passed its version of the standalone DADT repeal (as well as DREAM, for what it's worth) which means that if the Senate passes the repeal this weekend it will go straight to the president's desk for likely signature.

Stay tuned throughout the day for live updates on the happenings here on Capitol Hill.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government
KEYWORDS: 111th; dadt; dontaskdonttell; dream; homosexualagenda
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To: ruralvoter
They just called a NO vote for Snowe.

Likely means yes on DADT for her.

61 posted on 12/18/2010 8:39:51 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Kharis13

thank you for pointing it out and seeing hr bigger picture.

After if they get this they will say they can die for their country but cannot marry in their state so overturn DOMA.

So any idiots out there saying no big deal then they want DOMA gone then have fisting taught in schools etc.
Then it will be a crime to speak against them

CALL, CALL CALL the RINO’s you can bet the queers are


62 posted on 12/18/2010 8:41:12 AM PST by manc (FOX and the media never talk about the queer private who stole all the secrets do they? mmmmmm)
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To: Kharis13

thank you for pointing it out and seeing hr bigger picture.

After if they get this they will say they can die for their country but cannot marry in their state so overturn DOMA.

So any idiots out there saying no big deal then they want DOMA gone then have fisting taught in schools etc.
Then it will be a crime to speak against them

CALL, CALL CALL the RINO’s you can bet the queers are


63 posted on 12/18/2010 8:41:16 AM PST by manc (FOX and the media never talk about the queer private who stole all the secrets do they? mmmmmm)
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To: Red Steel

How many No’s right now???


64 posted on 12/18/2010 8:41:25 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: bereanway

Murkowski just voted yes.


65 posted on 12/18/2010 8:41:37 AM PST by bereanway (I'd rather have 40 Marco Rubios than 60 Arlen Specters)
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To: roses of sharon

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2644463/posts

Gay activist hospitalized for anxiety

Orange County Register, 12/17/2010

Gay activist and Iraq war veteran Lt. Dan Choi has been hospitalized following a breakdown, ABC News is reporting.

“Dan sends his unconditional love,” said Choi’s Twitter account, after linking to the ABC article.

Choi, a Tustin High graduate, was discharged from the New York Army National Guard in July under the Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy he’s been working to change. He was admitted to the psychiatric ward at the Veteran’s Administration Hospital in Brockton, Mass., ABC News stated.


66 posted on 12/18/2010 8:42:08 AM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Big E

Murkowski AYE, well no surprise there, G*damn #$^@!??@!$$$!@. Bennett of Utah AYE. Bastard.


67 posted on 12/18/2010 8:42:23 AM PST by Big E
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To: Jane Long
Baucus NO!!

Murky YES :(

Miller would've voted NO, AK!!

68 posted on 12/18/2010 8:42:37 AM PST by Jane Long (2 Chron 7:14)
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To: Breto

anyone who did not call and tried to stop don’t ask are just to blame as the queers themselves because of their lazy couldn’t give a crap attitude the queers are getting their agenda passed and I couldn’t even write on here what I would like t say or do right now


69 posted on 12/18/2010 8:42:50 AM PST by manc (FOX and the media never talk about the queer private who stole all the secrets do they? mmmmmm)
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To: Jane Long

how many no’s now???


70 posted on 12/18/2010 8:43:19 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Red Steel

THANK YOU

ALL PLEASE CALL , THE NUMBERS ARE AT THE POST I AM REPLYING TO

PLEASE CALL AND CALL AGAIN THESE TRAITORS AND LET THEM KNOW REPEAL IS NOT GOOD


71 posted on 12/18/2010 8:43:45 AM PST by manc (FOX and the media never talk about the queer private who stole all the secrets do they? mmmmmm)
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To: scbison

>> Does anybody believe when DADT passes that we will win the war in Afganistan? <<

Sure! Just wait’ll we parachute an all-gay battalion of fierce warriors into Talibanistan. That’ll show those nasty old Jihadis a thing or two!


72 posted on 12/18/2010 8:43:45 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: All
Mark Kirk Voted NO.

Didn't expect that.

73 posted on 12/18/2010 8:44:18 AM PST by LdSentinal
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To: bereanway
She's just representing “All of Alaska”.

Murkowski is already making Alaskan voters look awfully stupid.

74 posted on 12/18/2010 8:44:58 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: LdSentinal

Voinovich, NO, wow.


75 posted on 12/18/2010 8:45:17 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Comparative Advantage

Bennet, Murkowski vote yes.


76 posted on 12/18/2010 8:45:28 AM PST by Shorthair
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To: Big E

Make no mistake, Lugar does not vote on his principles, he votes just to spite Conservatives. As do all Rinos.

Lately he has been trash talking Conservatives in his state..daring them to primary him.


77 posted on 12/18/2010 8:45:28 AM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: LdSentinal

Voinovich No!


78 posted on 12/18/2010 8:45:44 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (I'm with Jim DeMint ... on the fringe!)
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To: Lazamataz

Thank God!!


79 posted on 12/18/2010 8:45:48 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Jane Long

I counted 3 GOP defectors (Lugar, Murkowski, and Bennett), and 4 Democrat defectors (Baucus, Tester, Pryor, and Nelson). They’re gonig pretty fast, I might have missed some.


80 posted on 12/18/2010 8:45:51 AM PST by Big E
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