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DADT Repeal & DREAM Act Get Their Day In The Senate Today (Limited Debate & Cloture Live Thread)
tpm ^ | December 18, 2010, 8:44AM | Evan McMorris-Santoro

Posted on 12/18/2010 7:35:51 AM PST by Red Steel

The Senate will act on two important pieces of President Obama's progressive legislative agenda today: the DREAM Act and the repeal of the military's ban on openly gay servicemembers. By the end of the day, the path to final passage is expected to be set for DADT repeal, while DREAM is expected to languish for another Congress to pass.

Starting at around 10:30 this morning, the Senate will take up a cloture vote on DREAM. Cloture -- voted in by a 60-senator super majority -- is required to cut off debate and move a bill to final passage in the Senate. DREAM, which would provide legal status for illegal immigrants who serve in the military or earn college degrees, is not expected to hit that mark, effectively scrapping the bill for the time being.

That will set the stage for a cloture vote on a standalone DADT repeal bill, which proponents say is destined for passage. That will be the first step toward ending the nearly two-decade practice of allowing gays and lesbians to serve in the military, but not if anyone who works with them knows they're gay. Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT), who has been the driving force behind lining up the votes for DADT repeal, says he has the 60 he needs and most observers expect there to be little drama today.

Lieberman and his allies in the Democratic caucus are expected to get help repealing DADT from at least four Republicans -- Sens. Scott Brown (MA), Susan Collins (ME), Lisa Murkowski (AK) and Olympia Snowe (ME). Most of the rest of the GOP caucus is expected to vote against it, though Lieberman said yesterday that the bill may pick up support from the GOP as it heads toward final passage.

On the Democratic side, Sen. Joe Manchin (WV) has not said whether he'll support the standalone bill -- and he voted against repeal the last time it came up, as part of a defense spending bill last week. Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND), who voted for cloture on the spending bill, has also not said how he'll vote. Proponents of repeal say they don't need either vote to win today.

Supposing cloture is reached (which, again, is all but a foregone conclusion according to supporters of repeal), a final vote on the bill to end DADT could come as early as today. More likely than not, however, 30 hours of final debate on the measure will be kicked off by the cloture vote. That puts a final repeal vote sometime late Sunday.

The House already passed its version of the standalone DADT repeal (as well as DREAM, for what it's worth) which means that if the Senate passes the repeal this weekend it will go straight to the president's desk for likely signature.

Stay tuned throughout the day for live updates on the happenings here on Capitol Hill.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government
KEYWORDS: 111th; dadt; dontaskdonttell; dream; homosexualagenda
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1 posted on 12/18/2010 7:35:58 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Feinstein is blabbing at the moment mixing DADT and DREAM together.

DADT cloture vote is first up at 10:30 am ET. Harry Reid did a switcheroo as DREAM was scheduled first.


2 posted on 12/18/2010 7:38:48 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Watching live on numbersusa.tv

Pray for America.

3 posted on 12/18/2010 7:38:48 AM PST by Jane Long (2 Chron 7:14)
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To: Red Steel
Keep the perverts out of the military - this is NOT a place for social engineering.
4 posted on 12/18/2010 7:41:16 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Red Steel

Sen. Kyl is giving a great speech on the floor now. Very logical and measured in tone to vote against the DREAM Act.


5 posted on 12/18/2010 7:41:52 AM PST by ruralvoter
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To: Red Steel

Americans are going to regret allowing homos to run the military. You can take that to the bank. Hopefully, Stinky Harry’s Wet Dream Act will fall on its ass. A military full of homos and illegal aliens seems kind of sleazy to me. A platoon of day laborers that swishes when they march? Yikes!


6 posted on 12/18/2010 7:42:08 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Merry Christmas to all of my FReeper FRiends!)
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To: Cheerio

That Asshat Reid would not be bringing this up were it not a shoe in.


7 posted on 12/18/2010 7:42:22 AM PST by Mouton
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To: Red Steel
As America sits in peril today, remember the roles of Tokyo Rove,
Sig Rogich, and the other backstabbers.

Republican for Reid costing the GOP ... the Senate.

"Sen. Harry Reid’s list of the 60 members of Republicans for Reid"

8 posted on 12/18/2010 7:42:25 AM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Red Steel
Harry Reid did a switcheroo as DREAM was scheduled first.

He must not have the votes for amnesty. Let's call it what it is.
9 posted on 12/18/2010 7:42:40 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio

It’s hard to keep perverts out of the military when you can’t keep perverts out of the US senate.


10 posted on 12/18/2010 7:43:41 AM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Red Steel

The Army’s new motto: “Be as fabulous as you can be”

I watch the “lame duck” Congress working OT to destroy the country before they leave and can only think “You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! Damn you all to hell!”


11 posted on 12/18/2010 7:43:52 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Obama is like a rocket scientist....who's trying to do brain surgery with a hammer.)
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To: Red Steel

If the queers want to serve openly in the military, put them all in the same unit, send them to the fiercest fighting, repeat as necessary.


12 posted on 12/18/2010 7:44:11 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...
By the end of the day, the path to final passage is expected to be set for DADT repeal, while DREAM is expected to languish for another Congress to pass.

13 posted on 12/18/2010 7:44:11 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Red Steel
DADT cloture vote is first up at 10:30 am ET. Harry Reid did a switcheroo as DREAM was scheduled first.

More coffee...

Hmmmmmm...looks like Reid didn't do a switch.

14 posted on 12/18/2010 7:44:35 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

The new House majority MUST punish Senators who ram this through.

It will take a shut-down of the government to repeal this before 2013 and it will be the lame duck Senate’s fault for putting the House, and the nation, in that position.

No pork, not even normal spending for their states.


15 posted on 12/18/2010 7:47:50 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: Red Steel

A couple things to keep in mind regarding the repeal of DADT:

1) This is NOT about, nor has it ever been about, homosexuals serving “openly” in the military. It’s simply another step in the homosexual agenda to have their lifestyle regarded by society as normal.

2) Homosexuals will not be lined up in droves to join the U.S. military. See #1 for explanation why.

The military will rue the day they caved to social engineering.

Kharis13


16 posted on 12/18/2010 7:51:06 AM PST by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: Cheerio

What this Amnesty Act says to all “Legal” immigrants who were/are lawfully attempting to obtain citizenship, “You Fools!!!”


17 posted on 12/18/2010 7:51:38 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: Red Steel

DADT/DREAM/START

All must fail.

“GIVE THEM NOTHING!”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHxIssSROjk


18 posted on 12/18/2010 7:52:05 AM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: quantim

“It’s hard to keep perverts out of the military when you can’t keep perverts out of the US senate.”

Point, set, match. Right on.


19 posted on 12/18/2010 7:53:17 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Red Steel

Chucky Schumer says, on both issues, Dream and Dadt - We Will prevail!

Side note: Reid’s pet Coons has the gavel.

McCain is up and talking to truth to power...doing good.


20 posted on 12/18/2010 7:53:45 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

If these two things pass this country deserves the destruction that follows. I will no longer pray for its safety. Lucifer has won. It is only the individuals soul that matters now.


21 posted on 12/18/2010 7:58:35 AM PST by Breto (never accept the premise)
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To: Red Steel

Today,amnesty for illegal alien invaders and privileged victim status for those who indulge in empirically proven counter-biological behavior will make this Lame Duck congress the most nefarious enact-er of unpopular legislation since the Nuremberg Laws of the 1930s. Such a wicked way to secure voters—such an evil way to grab power—such a sinister way to bring down my beloved America.


22 posted on 12/18/2010 8:00:07 AM PST by Happy Rain ("Every Christmas the Leftist atheists become "hatetheists.")
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To: Red Steel

McCain - Do not do harm the battle effectiveness what is essential to survival.

Turbin Durbin is yacking now and speaking much BS.


23 posted on 12/18/2010 8:00:40 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Once they gain a foothold in the military, and as they rise in the ranks, gays will surround themselves with other gays. I’ve seen this occur in the public sector many times. Needless to say, our adversaries abroad know this and are taking measure of us right now.


24 posted on 12/18/2010 8:03:49 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Red Steel

DREAM is the real threat!

START is somewhat disturbing, too


25 posted on 12/18/2010 8:05:37 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Bryanw92

“Be as fabulous as you can be”

...in those soon to be newly styled flamboyant uniforms. Our military is going to look like, if not be like, the Village People!


26 posted on 12/18/2010 8:09:05 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Red Steel

McCain says most gays just want to high five each other in the liberal bastions around the country than to join or do they even know anyone in the military. In other words, they just want to screw with the country.

Durbin we need more dentists in America...support the Dream Act. Lame. Oh, Turbin Durbin is now showing his alien portraits again, like last night.


27 posted on 12/18/2010 8:10:35 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Starboard
And any who dissent,no matter how justified,will be branded a HOMOPHOBE and dishonorably discharged or jailed!

A defenseless collection of young and healthy heterosexuals is the homosexual's ultimate fantasy. Just so we know it isn't just about politics.

28 posted on 12/18/2010 8:12:31 AM PST by Happy Rain ("Every Christmas the Leftist atheists become "hatetheists.")
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To: Jane Long

“Watching live on numbersusa.tv
Pray for America.”

If Nightmare is stopped this morning, I’ll donate $100 to Numbers USA today.


29 posted on 12/18/2010 8:13:35 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Comparative Advantage

Reid spewing his nonsense.


30 posted on 12/18/2010 8:17:26 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Happy Rain

Gives a whole new meaning to the Good Ole Boy network. You’ll have to be gay to play.


31 posted on 12/18/2010 8:17:37 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Red Steel

“Reid spewing his nonsense.”

I hope the people of Nevada realize what they’ve done to the rest of their countrymen by re-electing this vile and dangerous old fool.


32 posted on 12/18/2010 8:19:37 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Diogenesis; Red Steel

>> As America sits in peril today, remember the roles of Tokyo Rove, Sig Rogich, and the other backstabbers. <<

I don’t get your point. Even if Sharron Angle had been elected, Harry Reid would still be majority leader of the Senate until December 31. So he and his merry band could — and most probably would — still be doing exactly as they are doing today.

Now to be sure, if Christine O’Donnell had been elected, the ‘Pubs would have one more vote in the Senate today. But that single vote wouldn’t be enough to sustain a filibuster against DADT repeal, since the Maine twins and Frank Murkowski’s daughter (Lisa Martell) have gone over to the dark side on this issue, probably to be joined by Scotty Brown.


33 posted on 12/18/2010 8:20:45 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Red Steel

My hatred of dems has reached an all-time high. They are lower than cockroaches.


34 posted on 12/18/2010 8:21:52 AM PST by matt1234 (0bama's bunker phase: Nov. 2010 - Jan. 2013)
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To: Red Steel

keep calling and stop this madness call the RINO’s in the north east not just your local rep please


35 posted on 12/18/2010 8:23:16 AM PST by manc (FOX and the media never talk about the queer private who stole all the secrets do they? mmmmmm)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

call CALL , CALL against repeal DADT
if any idiot thinks DADT is not too important then they need to wake the hell up.

Once they get that they will then move to overturn DOMA saying they can die for their country but cannot marry in their state

If some think that repeal is not big deal then stop being so ignorant and wake the hell up, to many vets this issue comes top and it is those supporters and queers who will ruin our great military.


36 posted on 12/18/2010 8:26:42 AM PST by manc (FOX and the media never talk about the queer private who stole all the secrets do they? mmmmmm)
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To: Red Steel

The Army will become a disgusting perverted joke.


37 posted on 12/18/2010 8:26:59 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: Hawthorn

If the Repubs can flip Snowe back to oppose DADT, and the Dems Conrad and Manchin vote no on DADT, it falls short by one.

Possibly Blanche Lincoln is a ? on her DADT vote.

DREAM cloture vote is coming up now...


38 posted on 12/18/2010 8:27:27 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Comparative Advantage

Where wil these Democrats be when this country is ruined and defeated like the want it, with queers and women fighting our wars and over run with illegals in total disregard of the American majority.I want absolutely no damned mercy in the next congress. I want repeal after repeal tied to government appropriations bills. No act shall be free standing!! If you want to get food for the parasite you must repeal one of these abomination. No more Mr. tearful nice guy— we need a leader in the house and senate that will break things.I want this government spending slashed 20%. Get after it. -Remember this assault on our great nation.


39 posted on 12/18/2010 8:31:06 AM PST by Benchim
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To: Red Steel

Discipline is the key to the military. Anybody know any fags who are disciplined? We’re going to have a military full of radical, sexual deviant activists that swish when they walk. Not good.


40 posted on 12/18/2010 8:33:19 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Merry Christmas to all of my FReeper FRiends!)
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To: manc
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41 posted on 12/18/2010 8:34:29 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: screaminsunshine

“The Army will become a disgusting perverted joke.”

...that will only motivate our enemies even more than they already are. They will be inspired not only to fight the ‘infidels’ but to also crush sexual behavior that is anathema to their religion.


42 posted on 12/18/2010 8:34:34 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Red Steel

LUGAR better be defeated in 2012!!!


43 posted on 12/18/2010 8:34:47 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Red Steel

Hoping my health holds out, etc, but if Scott Brown votes for DADT or DREAM I will definitely contribute what I can to his Republican opponent in the primary of 2012.


44 posted on 12/18/2010 8:35:23 AM PST by Enterprise (TSA - The Silly Agency)
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To: Comparative Advantage

Can this be repealed or amended next session if this passes?


45 posted on 12/18/2010 8:35:47 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: FlingWingFlyer

We will/are going to be like Europe... Eventually there is going to be such moral vacum that will be over come by radical muslims


46 posted on 12/18/2010 8:36:42 AM PST by scbison
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To: Red Steel

They just called a NO vote for Snowe.


47 posted on 12/18/2010 8:36:42 AM PST by ruralvoter
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To: Comparative Advantage

Not likely. Barry would just veto the repeal even if there were enough votes to pass it in both houses of Congress.


48 posted on 12/18/2010 8:37:15 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Enterprise

They called out a NO vote for Brown.


49 posted on 12/18/2010 8:37:23 AM PST by ruralvoter
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To: ruralvoter

Pryor (d), Tester (d), Nelson (d) all NO.


50 posted on 12/18/2010 8:37:42 AM PST by Big E
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