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DADT Repeal & DREAM Act Get Their Day In The Senate Today (Limited Debate & Cloture Live Thread)
tpm ^ | December 18, 2010, 8:44AM | Evan McMorris-Santoro

Posted on 12/18/2010 7:35:51 AM PST by Red Steel

The Senate will act on two important pieces of President Obama's progressive legislative agenda today: the DREAM Act and the repeal of the military's ban on openly gay servicemembers. By the end of the day, the path to final passage is expected to be set for DADT repeal, while DREAM is expected to languish for another Congress to pass.

Starting at around 10:30 this morning, the Senate will take up a cloture vote on DREAM. Cloture -- voted in by a 60-senator super majority -- is required to cut off debate and move a bill to final passage in the Senate. DREAM, which would provide legal status for illegal immigrants who serve in the military or earn college degrees, is not expected to hit that mark, effectively scrapping the bill for the time being.

That will set the stage for a cloture vote on a standalone DADT repeal bill, which proponents say is destined for passage. That will be the first step toward ending the nearly two-decade practice of allowing gays and lesbians to serve in the military, but not if anyone who works with them knows they're gay. Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT), who has been the driving force behind lining up the votes for DADT repeal, says he has the 60 he needs and most observers expect there to be little drama today.

Lieberman and his allies in the Democratic caucus are expected to get help repealing DADT from at least four Republicans -- Sens. Scott Brown (MA), Susan Collins (ME), Lisa Murkowski (AK) and Olympia Snowe (ME). Most of the rest of the GOP caucus is expected to vote against it, though Lieberman said yesterday that the bill may pick up support from the GOP as it heads toward final passage.

On the Democratic side, Sen. Joe Manchin (WV) has not said whether he'll support the standalone bill -- and he voted against repeal the last time it came up, as part of a defense spending bill last week. Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND), who voted for cloture on the spending bill, has also not said how he'll vote. Proponents of repeal say they don't need either vote to win today.

Supposing cloture is reached (which, again, is all but a foregone conclusion according to supporters of repeal), a final vote on the bill to end DADT could come as early as today. More likely than not, however, 30 hours of final debate on the measure will be kicked off by the cloture vote. That puts a final repeal vote sometime late Sunday.

The House already passed its version of the standalone DADT repeal (as well as DREAM, for what it's worth) which means that if the Senate passes the repeal this weekend it will go straight to the president's desk for likely signature.

Stay tuned throughout the day for live updates on the happenings here on Capitol Hill.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government
KEYWORDS: 111th; dadt; dontaskdonttell; dream; homosexualagenda
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H.R. 2965 (Homosexualization of the military) moves forward in the Senate on a vote of 63-33 (60 votes needed to move forward).


141 posted on 12/18/2010 9:05:28 AM PST by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: Breto
This pic exemplifies how Obama views it:
142 posted on 12/18/2010 9:05:47 AM PST by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: longtermmemmory

63 - 33


143 posted on 12/18/2010 9:06:11 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Comparative Advantage
The woman from MO is toast in 2012.

"Love Pats"? Let's hope!
144 posted on 12/18/2010 9:06:22 AM PST by Zarro (Hands off Our Junk!)
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To: deks

So sick. Have a nephew home from Iraq - for Christmas - and this just makes me so sad.


145 posted on 12/18/2010 9:06:44 AM PST by Jane Long (2 Chron 7:14)
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To: manc; Red Steel
I am on the phone though still calling these traitors while I;m shaking with anger and frustration.

I'm calling too, manc!

RS - Thank's so much for this thread. I don't watch tv so am following this thread.

146 posted on 12/18/2010 9:06:51 AM PST by southernsunshine
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To: manc; All

Homosexualization of the military just passed Cloture, Folks...

A sad, sad day in Ameica’s history.


147 posted on 12/18/2010 9:07:18 AM PST by tcrlaf (Obama White House=Tammany Hall on the National Mall)
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To: Bryanw92; Starboard; All
Bryanw92:"“Be as fabulous as you can be”"

Starboard:"...in those soon to be newly styled flamboyant uniforms. Our military is going to look like, if not be like, the Village People!"

The new motto??:


148 posted on 12/18/2010 9:07:29 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: deks

is there any more procedures to stop this leftist coup?


149 posted on 12/18/2010 9:07:43 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Red Steel

Not yet, they voted on cloture:

cloture - The only procedure by which the Senate can vote to place a time limit on consideration of a bill or other matter, and thereby overcome a filibuster.

Under the cloture rule (Rule XXII), the Senate may limit consideration of a pending matter to 30 additional hours, but only by vote of three-fifths of the full Senate, normally 60 votes.


150 posted on 12/18/2010 9:07:54 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: Red Steel
63 - 33

NOOOOOO!!!

151 posted on 12/18/2010 9:08:33 AM PST by southernsunshine
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To: tcrlaf

Yup. The deliberate corruption of America continues. History repeats itself. As did Rome, so do we.

“Strengthen the things that remain.”


152 posted on 12/18/2010 9:08:53 AM PST by kozanne
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To: Red Steel

I’m sorry, just reading what I want to I guess, totally overwhelmed by this paganism and distraught since my son goes to boot camp in 2 weeks.


153 posted on 12/18/2010 9:10:57 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: longtermmemmory
is there any more procedures to stop this leftist coup?

Yes, the vote was just to end the filibuster and to allow a vote on whether to repeal DADT.

In theory, a Senator could vote to end the filibuster and still vote against repealing DADT - in theory.

BTW, I think I noticed that even Lindsey Graham voted no on ending the filibuster.

154 posted on 12/18/2010 9:11:01 AM PST by Walts Ice Pick
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To: Zarro

Yeah they’re lining up on the pubbie side to challenge McCaskill. I’m guessing this time Talent will wipe the floor with her. At least I hope so.


155 posted on 12/18/2010 9:11:12 AM PST by bereanway (I'd rather have 40 Marco Rubios than 60 Arlen Specters)
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To: southernsunshine

No way will I encourage my kids to join the military.


156 posted on 12/18/2010 9:11:17 AM PST by dfwgator (Welcome to the Gator Nation Will Muschamp)
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To: Red Steel

On January seven, the new Congress should make homosexuality a legal point for authorized removal from the military. The DADT law was designed to degrade the integrity of the force from day one. Now that that law has been repealed, the real action should take place in a god-fearing congress, to protect the integrity of the force by giving honor the force of law, so that sexual degeneracy is illegal in the military, not protected so long as one can keep a giant lie going. [Of course, I’m making the gross mistake of believing the congress in any way fears the lord, much less wants to promote honor and the integrity of the force.]


157 posted on 12/18/2010 9:11:37 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MVV
I read somewhere that getting DADT approved was payback to Obama for him signing the tax bill.....along with other goodies.
Hope its not true.
158 posted on 12/18/2010 9:12:08 AM PST by mickie
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To: huldah1776

Does this invalidate the Sodomy statute in the UCMJ?


159 posted on 12/18/2010 9:12:19 AM PST by AU72
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To: mickie

The USMC is now the YMCA.


160 posted on 12/18/2010 9:12:57 AM PST by circlecity
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