Posted on 11/08/2010 5:01:40 PM PST by neverdem
Jim Webb went to the White House last September. The Virginia senator was meeting with the president to discuss Guantanamo detainees. The conversation soon shifted to healthcare. "I told him this was going to be a disaster," Webb recalls...
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This independent problem returns Democrats to their white problem. Most non-aligned voters are white. White males constitute the plurality of independents. These are the Reagan Democrats. Webb does not see himself as their spokesman. But he is one of the few Democrats able to speak as one of them.
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Webb is an Obama worshipper and one guy I would love to see get beat before I leave Gaia.
Jim Webb... this is a guy in trouble in VA and I wouldn’t be surprised if he walks away over the next two years. He’s got a re-election coming up to think about.
Jim Webb is a piece of garbage. Hopefully he is tossed to the trash with other Dem SCUM like Bill Nelson in 2012.
bump for later
“I told him this was going to be a disaster,” Webb recalls...
WTF, Webb voted for 0bamacare. What are the chances of George Allen running against Webb in 2012 and getting his old seat back?
Dim Webb is gone in 2012.
At any rate, Webb can see the long shadows of 2012. He's moving to the center, Obama notwithstanding.
And yet he voted for that steaming pile of crap. And we're supposed to think he has our best interests at heart? What a POS.
An adage of polling is that once you lose independents, they don’t come back.
Obama has lost the independents, and I suspect they’re going to stay gone.
Didn’t this filthy weasel personally attack Bush for no reason?
November 29, 2006
Wednesday’s Washington Post reported that at a White House reception for newly elected members of Congress, Webb ``tried to avoid President Bush,’’ refusing to pass through the reception line or have his picture taken with the president. When Bush asked Webb, whose son is a Marine in Iraq, ``How’s your boy?’’ Webb replied, ``I’d like to get them (sic) out of Iraq.’’ When the president again asked, ``How’s your boy?’’ Webb replied, ``That’s between me and my boy.’’ Webb told the Post:
`I’m not particularly interested in having a picture of me and George W. Bush on my wall. No offense to the institution of the presidency, and I’m certainly looking forward to working with him and his administration. (But) leaders do some symbolic things to try to convey who they are and what the message is.’’
A disaster you had the power to save us from, but chose not to. Stuff it.
ROTFL, you are such toast.
Virginia 2012 is almost here and hark, the campaign coffers are ringing, but for your opponent whomever he/she is.
Nye, check.
Webb,
Warner,
soon to be.
At any rate, Webb can see the long shadows of 2012. He's moving to the center, Obama notwithstanding.
First thing I wondered was how much he paid for this article....lol
2nd thing I wondered.........was this article written as a preamble or pretext for a run against Obama in 2012 ? or an attempt at becoming a power broker in the party ?
I wouldn't be shocked or even mildly surprised, if he decided to take the leap in 2012 and run for the nomination of the rat party......if he is going to lose any chance at re-election in Virginia, why not go out with a national bang ?
He has the ego.......
A POS that caused others to die.......
I hope the Morris and Rove types are able to devote resources very soon to keeping vulnerable 2012 dims on the run over the next two years.
When was that exactly- before you voted for health care or after?
If Webb fancies himself a conservative, or even a moderate, why the bleep does he align himself with the liberal idiots?
There is no such thing as “Reagan Democrats” just as there is no such thing as “Blue Dog Democrats” or “Pro-Life Democrats”. If anything should tell you this it should be the last two years when the Democrats have voted for this socialist agenda. Webb (and Warner) are running scared because they have seen their “purple” state turn virtually red. They will say anything. Note he is opened to “improving” Obamacare-but not repealing it.
Don’t fall for the lies.
Jim Webb is a giant load of macaca.
From your keyboard, to God's ears, but the GOP has managed to lose them a number of times, IIRC, usually while they try to assuage moderates.
There is, too, a such animal as Reagan Democrats. Don’t delude yourself just because none of the major pollsters recognize them.
I thought that if the GOP did better in the Senate, that they would try to flip him, crossing the rats. I think he'll walk away. If he did an Arlen Specter, he'd probably be primaried.
but the GOP has managed to lose them a number of times,
I say it’s because the Tea Party stood up to the Establishment.
I can’t count how many intelligent people I know who say it’s all fixed, there’s no difference between the parties,
and this year they saw conservatives take down fat RINO cows.
We HAVE to keep doing what the independents like, keep them voting. Not just for our own satisfaction and conscience, but to keep the indies with us.
I was going to post some of the numerous emails I have received from Webb’s office but its the same ol’ thing (e.g. “We are working to strengthen the health care legislation”). Trust me. I wrote Webb, Warner, and Connolly’s offices many times and made numerous telephone calls. It’s the same ol’ lies.
You are right in one respect, there are Reagan Democrats. But they are in the Tea Party movement, not in Congress.
Reagan Democrats wouldn’t have voted for the Insurance Bill.
Seems like a Reagan Dem from Virginny votes the same way on things as a socialist from Vermont (Sanders)does...
Do a search on the term. Keep the quotation marks. They were probably rats at the time. A lot of them are probably independents now that the rats are hard left.
I’m changing his name to Jim “Obamacare” Webb.
It is no wonder the paleo Conservative rag, 'the American Conservative,' endorsed him for President.
Hopefully, we'll be rid of this evil con artists by 2012
LLS
Jim Webb is a communist. Done.
Well, I did write that in a fit of blinding anger and unreasonable rage at the mention of the name of Jim Webb. :O)
Webb is not what I would classify as a “Reagan Democrat” nor do I believe you will find any Reagan Democrats in Congress. As some of the articles suggest, a “Reagan Democrat” would never have allowed themselves to vote for abortion in a health care bill, or amass the deficit without finding some way to pay for it, or voted for this health care bill without reading it.
What you saw in this election were the “Reagan Democrats” moving towards the Republicans through the Tea Party movement. That is the only explanation of Republicans winning Michigan, Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, etc. If the Republicans fail to bend to the will of the Tea Party, they will lose them again but it wouldn’t surprise me to see another party arise that is focus on fiscal constraint.
Jim Webb is positioning himself for the next election.
Webb will switch parties...but VA is smart enough to defeat him with a true Republican....
We took down the left, now we have to take down the left media.
Amen. He’s a piece of walking excrement. Nothing “moderate” about this pinko.
To understand Webb you have to read his book, Born Fighting” about the Scots who settled in America.
It clearly outlines his admiration for his own Scots forbears who would proudly wear the appellation of ‘redneck’.
I think his lower-class oe blue-collar populism is based on his feelings and beliefs about their problems with the American elite and being largely excluded from the fruits of a society they helped build and died for.
What you saw in this election were the “Reagan Democrats” moving towards the Republicans through the Tea Party movement.
RATS have now been by their own actions defined in the dictionary as disease and death to any part of the United States they sink their fangs into.
Like Detroit.
Independents’ Day - Yes, Independent Voters Went Republican, And We Will Need To Keep Them
The first link has a range of 22 to 44 as the percent of independents in various states for the governor and senate races.
Republicans won the midterm elections. Now can they survive?
Americans' agenda is simple. In broad terms, they want the government to spur job growth, but not by subsidizing more government jobs with taxpayer dollars. They want Washington to balance the budget and reverse the growing influence of government on daily life. They want the government to encourage success, allow failure, punish those who break the law - and then get out of the way. And above all, they want politicians to follow through on their promises, even if that means tempering those promises in the first place.It's been posted alredy. I linked directly the printer friendly version. The whole article is quite remarkable.They also show clear support for the following five ideas:
l (1) Balance the budget as quickly as possible through meaningful spending reductions, a hard spending cap and a constitutional amendment so that it never gets unbalanced again.
l (2) Eliminate all earmarks until the budget is balanced, then require a two-thirds vote by Congress for future earmark legislation.
l (3) Keep taxes down by requiring supermajorities for increases, and eventually enact tax reform with a simple, low, fair rate that drastically reduces the length of the IRS code.
l (4) Create a blue-ribbon task force that engages in a complete, line-by-line forensic audit of federal agencies and programs to end waste and reduce red tape and bureaucracy.
l (5) And require Congress to provide specific constitutional authorization for every bill it passes so that the government stays within the boundaries imagined by the founders.
One more thing: Voters want their representatives home in their districts and holding monthly town halls. The worst strategic mistake House Democrats made this year was canceling scores of public meetings, denying their constituents the chance to be heard. Hell hath no fury like a voter silenced, so the voters spoke in unison on Election Day.
I've found that each of these policies has at least 60 percent public support, so if you agree with most of them, it means you're in the American mainstream. It also means that - wait for it - you agree with the tea party.
I think in the vast majority of the country that conservatives can take the majority of independents. In big cities and the two coasts, moderates may be the only candidates with any chance to win for now, IMHO.
blah, blah, blah.... this guy is an effing liar. He voted FOR Obamacare, and if he ever thought it was a mistake he had EVERY opportunity to publicly say so. HE NEVER DID.
This is all about a Democrat looking at 2012 and fearing the wrath of the people. Be prepared to be bamboozled by Webb 'forgetting' all his liberal votes and becoming a one-year conservative.
Fools the people every time!
He has zero chance of getting any Dem Prez nomination.
His only chance of surviving 2012 is having the liberals at the WashPost cover his butt and make him out to be mr conservative. This is all about 2012 re-election.
He will not be respresenting Virgina after 2012.
Hopefully he won’t.....after all the cheerleading about Reid and Boxer not getting their seats back, I am cautiously optimistic but won’t be making blanket statements as you did. We do this all the time.....”Murk won’t get more than 8 percent of the write in vote”, “Dino is going to win 100 percent”, “Oregon is going Republican”, “O’Donnell has this in the bag”. I never understood why we do this. I think saying “We hope.....” is more realistic.
Fools the people every time!
I posted the thread mainly for the author's comments about independents and Reagan rats. Webb made one comment about abortion that helped.
That said, I don't think he would win if he tried to get the nomination in for prez, but he would have an impact, which might be all he wants (or the VP slot from Biden).
He has an ego, he's unhappy, and he's on the irrelevant side now, that might be all the motivation the man needs to make an ass of himself.
Maybe not now, or as much, but Reagan Democrats certainly existed........Pat Buchanan has written extensively about them....
I think its safe to say, that the democrats are kicking them out of the party...
A vote for Harry Reid. Toss ‘em. Oh yeah ... and he sucks on immigration.
I respect Webb, but I find that comment very strange. If he knew the bill was going such a disaster, whey did he go ahead and vote for it anyway?
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