Fury as Israel president claims English are 'anti-semitic'

The Telegraph ^ | 7/31/10 | David Harrison and Adrian Blomfield in Jerusalem

[HearMe]

You think Peres, who was an top aid to Ben Gurion, who lived through and fought against all of Britain’s anti Israel deeds over the past century, who heard last week the British PM call Gaza the world largest prison (as repulsive an anti Israel lie as one can utter) was reacting in a knee jerk fashion? Really.

I think you object when Jews react to what is inflicted on them. Too bad.

[StolarStorm]

The “Jews” in political power in Britain are so assimilated that calling them Jewish is ridiculous.

Did anyone else's jaw drop when they read this???? Who are YOU to decide who is a real Jew and who is not?

[StolarStorm]

I believe that Peres has a personal history with the British that explains his bigotry toward them today. I understand why he feels the way he does. However, my concern is that others are defending his statement. The Brits are like everyone else, they have their share of bigots... just as Israel and every other country has.

[WilliamTells]

You trot out the “Perfidious Albion” trope repeatedly, but what was Britain supposed to do? Simply allow a massive influx of Jewish people to push out the Arabs living in the area? That wasn’t what the Balfour declaration or the League of Nations mandate had committed us to.

[HearMe]

Britain was supposed to do what Britain pledged to do.

Jews had as much of a right -if not more- to move to Palestine.

Britain had no problem with all the Arabs that flooded to Palestine to find work as Jews were building a society out of NOTHING.

[HearMe]

I notice you don’t address that Britain UNILATERALLY carved out 2/3’s of the Palestine Mandate, meant as the Jewish national home, and just gave it to the Arabs.

[dennisw]

yup

[HearMe]

explains his bigotry

Bigotry arises of out a bigot's unclear thinking.

Peres bases his opinion about the British based on history (that he actually lived and actively participated in )and truths.

[dennisw]

I guess I don’t understand how you can be “deeply pro-Arab” and be anti-Semitic; Arabs are a Semitic people.

That is plain dumb and an oft repeated wise guy remark on the internet. Pick up a dictionary or thesaurus for an explanation and look up the phrase anti-Semitic. It means anti_Jewish because Jews have been a part of Western and European civilization for centuries while Arabs have not. Europe has had to repulse Arab Muslim invasions a few times. But these days they allow the Muslim invasion by immigration, giving them outlandish social benefits and then they knock out a million kids

[StolarStorm]

I"m not defending British actions that were harmful to Jews or Israel. I'm talking about labeling an entire country as being anti-semetic. That's clearly an unfair statement. I suspect, and hope, that Peres will address that and clarify himself. His statement was an emotional reaction, made without thinking about the complete meaning and ramifications of his comment.

And it wasn't helpful. A surefire way of making an enemy is to assume that someone is already your enemy. It's true in personal life and nation diplomacy.

[WilliamTells]

Again, you speak as if Britain had pledged herself to handing over the whole of the mandate as a Jewish homeland, with the Arabs in the area either to be expelled or forced to live in a Jewish state. Where did Britain commit itself to this? It wasn't in the Balfour Declaration or the League of Nations mandate.

In 1922, when the mandate was passed the Jewish population there was around 10%. It wasn't just Arabs flooding into the area.

[HearMe]

I am reminded of this commentary:

All European Life Died In Auschwitz

Maybe the British will get what they deserve when Islam inevitability rules there.

[Alkhin]

I believe his name was Disraeli. He began life as a Jew, but was converted to Anglicanism - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Disraeli

[StolarStorm]

Please tell us what they deserve?

[dennisw]

I believe that Peres has a personal history with the British that explains his bigotry toward them today. I understand why he feels the way he does. However, my concern is that others are defending his statement. The Brits are like everyone else, they have their share of bigots... just as Israel and every other country has.

Britain is worse among the educated and political classes. I have read accounts of nice dinner parties where leftist types and conservatives both vent their anti-Semitism and anti- Israelism. It is a happy pastime for them as these uber idiots allow and encourage Muslims to flood into the UK. My general impression of the UK is they much prefer Muslims over Jews. They have a loopy Arabism going on there same as Prince Charles does. They have a philo-Muslim thing going on

The average Brit....maybe some are more concerned about Muslims and other foreigners flooding into the UK than he is about Israel and Jews

[StolarStorm]

I’ve been to the UK many times. I’ve never heard anything anti-semetic. I have heard lots of anti-Muslim comments in the streets of London. Maybe you are correct, that its a class thing. I don’t know the elite. But the average brit doesn’t really even think about Jews. The muslims do scare the heck out of them.

[HearMe]

“His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”

Britain had no right to unilaterally give 2/3’s to the Arabs and they did not keep their word to “use their best endeavours to facilitate” a Jewish homeland. They did just the opposite.

It speaks for itself. A century of turmoil and war and bloodshed - with no end in sight- is directly attributable to their done damage and their lies and double dealing.

[HearMe]

I wrote what they deserve. They deserve the Islam they seem to crave.

[WilliamTells]

You get worst. Now Britain shares responsibility for Auschwitz? British soldiers helped to liberate the death camps, but now we're lumped in with those who guarded them.

Another Brit-hater. Free Republic seems lousy with them, lately.

[dennisw]

Please tell us what they deserve?

They deserve to swamped by Muslims and that is what the English are getting. That is how they will "reap the whirlwind"

Actually I like the English in the abstract and hope they come to their senses that Islam is their enemy not Israel..... A few good Muslim uprisings and riots will help but that may take years down the road until Muslim critical mass is reached via immigration Invasion and explosive Muslim birthrates

BTW  --- Few days ago I heard an English Jewish woman call in a radio show. She moved her family hear because her children's school busses were getting stoned on the way to Jewish day school