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Clinton Wedding Raises Questions of Interfaith Marriage
Townhall.com ^ | July 28, 2010 | Janice Shaw Crouse

Posted on 07/29/2010 8:43:14 AM PDT by Kaslin

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When asked about the significance of her daughter, Chelsea, marrying Marc Mezvinsky, who is Jewish, and thus being married in an interfaith union, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton responded, “Over the years, so many of the barriers that prevented people from getting married, crossing lines of faith or color or ethnicity have just disappeared.”

True, the barriers have disappeared, but serious difficulties remain.

While some scholars argue that mixed-faith unions “serve as a refiner’s fire” that make the relationships stronger, the statistical evidence indicates this is all too frequently not the outcome. The American Religious Identification Survey of 2001 noted that mixed marriages are three times more likely to end in divorce or separation than same-religion marriages. According to Tina Molly Lang in Associated Content, studies of marriages between Jews and Christians indicate that they face even higher risks, with a greater than 40 percent chance of divorce within five years. Even so, estimates are that up to 50 percent of those in the Jewish faith intermarry, which is viewed as a grave threat by many in the Jewish community who watch the continual shrinkage of their numbers with dismay. Catholic research indicates increases in interfaith marriages among those of the Catholic faith as well.

Observers have noted that both Clinton and Mezvinsky were raised in homes where religious faith was central to family life and questioned whether one or the other would convert and how they would reconcile the practice of their different faiths.

While intermarriage indicates a “high degree of assimilation and tolerance,” it also means “the declining role of faith and religious identity in the minds of many young Americans,” according to Allan Schwartz, in the “Emotional Challenges of Interfaith Marriage.” In her classic book, The Good Marriage: How and Why Love Lasts, Judith Wallerstein reports that couples set the stage for conflict, bitterness, and misunderstanding as they make the emotional and psychological separation from their families’ religious heritage. Problems begin as early as the planning of the wedding ceremony, where different traditions are in conflict, especially when certain symbols of faith “evoke powerful emotional responses.”

Questions about intermarriage face an increasing number of couples today, as Mrs. Clinton rightly observed. According to the General Social Survey, a quarter of American households are now mixed-faith families — an increase from only 15 percent in 1988. In their forum on the issue, The Washington Post published an essay by Janet Edwards, a Presbyterian minister from Pittsburgh, who said, “The bonds of interfaith marriage strengthen the tolerant fabric of American life,” and claimed, “Society owes every couple the best possible chance at happiness, and that includes having the confidence and support of the community that surrounds them.”

Mrs. Edwards’ comment misses the mark. In a landmark University of Illinois at Chicago study published in Social Science Research in 1993 and quoted in a recent article by the Reverend Albert Mohler, Evelyn L. Lehrer noted that the more conservative faith adherents were not intermarrying “at rates anywhere near the more liberal groups.” Dr. Mohler added, “When the level of doctrinal commitment is low, the barriers to interfaith marriage are correspondingly far less significant.” What this comes down to is that typically traditional “practices” and “activities” are simply adjusted and adapted — this is a gentle way of saying they get “watered down” to the point of irrelevance; central beliefs of committed adherents pose a larger, more difficult challenge, since they are far less amenable to compromise. As noted by Dr. Mohler, theological differences matter, and decisions that are made by a couple over the course of a lifetime — especially in raising children — affect the marriage.

Worldview perspectives, it turns out, are important on a daily basis. The Christian worldview is rooted in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ — making him the Lord over the Christian’s life. The Christian faith — indeed, virtually all religious faith, if taken seriously — is inherently exclusive because it is the lens through which all of life is viewed and shaped.

If doctrine is more than just cultural observances, there is no way it can merely be a casual, insignificant part of a believer’s life. For the true Christian believer, this means a life lived in light of Christ’s singular claim that He is “the way, the truth, and the life.” Taking His claim seriously, that He is the only way to the Father (John 14:6), means that all decisions are made in light of His teaching and commands. This includes His teaching that marriage is intended by God to be a life-long covenant — not just between the couple, but sealed by God and witnessed by fellow believers in the couples’ church community. That said, real Christian marriage includes a commitment to follow Christ, both in lifestyle and in childrearing.

Religion that is not practiced is little more than a set of myths and of no more significance than the fairy tales told to toddlers at bedtime. Faith that does not make demands on behavior is not faith at all. Inevitably, a lack of unity in faith entails multiple problems on both the little and the large issues that couples continuously encounter as they face the task of building a strong, meaningful, harmonious marriage. How could it possibly be otherwise?


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1 posted on 07/29/2010 8:43:16 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

What’s interfaith about it? They are both Democrat cultists.


2 posted on 07/29/2010 8:44:27 AM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: Kaslin

They both have the heritage...crime.


3 posted on 07/29/2010 8:44:53 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Kaslin

It seems to me that the people getting married would have to take their respective religions seriously for this to be an issue.


4 posted on 07/29/2010 8:45:32 AM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to abdicate control of it to the government)
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To: Kaslin

“Observers have noted that both Clinton and Mezvinsky were raised in homes where religious faith was central to family life”

OH PLEASE....


5 posted on 07/29/2010 8:45:44 AM PDT by 95Theses (Sola Gratia - Sola Fide - Sola Scriptura)
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It should not be such a huge problem unless they have children. That’s where the problem starts.


6 posted on 07/29/2010 8:47:00 AM PDT by Rio (Plug the hole, Daddy!)
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To: Tribune7

True. They are both children of prominent Democrat politicians.

I think that it would be more significant if Chelsea was marrying an “evil” Republican. That would be a true “interfaith” marriage. Talking about the religion of people who aren’t devout in their faith in the first place is not significant.


7 posted on 07/29/2010 8:47:14 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Tribune7

That is true.


8 posted on 07/29/2010 8:49:49 AM PDT by JaneNC (I)
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To: Kaslin

I somehow doubt either one of them is much into the faith

Just like their parents


9 posted on 07/29/2010 8:50:04 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Kaslin

No problem.

A liberal Jew is a Jew in name only...no faith exists.

And of course, the Clintons couldn’t even spell religion.

It’s a perfect match.


10 posted on 07/29/2010 8:51:13 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: 95Theses

Worshiping satan... not GOD.

LLS


11 posted on 07/29/2010 8:51:27 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: Kaslin

hey, they are both liberals.......they will get along just fine......they can abort, commit adultery and do it while staying green. no problemo.


12 posted on 07/29/2010 8:51:55 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Kaslin
Wasn't Webb Hubble, Jewish?Besides Chelsey's mom is communist which would make them atheist,Right..So wouldn't that make her an atheist too.. No problem at all..
13 posted on 07/29/2010 8:53:25 AM PDT by PLD (When you receive a kindness,remember it;when you bestow one,forget it)
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To: Kaslin

They’re essentially the same faith. Christians and Jews share the same scriptures except for the extremely large detail that Jews believe the Messiah has not yet come but will rule God’s kingdom while Christians know that Jesus came to save us all and rules in the heavenly kingdom. Since both of these newly married elitists worship themselves and their lust for earthly power, I don’t see a significant difference in faith.


14 posted on 07/29/2010 8:53:34 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Kaslin
One of the happiest of marriages of plus 50 years was between my neighbors--a Protestant woman and Jewish man. They observed Christmas and Hannakka. (sp?)

And they normally held hands just walking to their car. Sometimes he rode a bus and she would walk with him to the bus stop and meet him when he got off.

They were really cute and still very much in love. I guess it's true that "Love conquers all."

15 posted on 07/29/2010 8:55:46 AM PDT by lonestar (Barry is furious the big spill wasn't caused by EXXON...would have nationalized it by now.)
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To: Kaslin
Clinton responded, “Over the years, so many of the barriers that prevented people from getting married, crossing lines of faith or color or ethnicity have just disappeared.”

Typical RAT who equates religious faith with color and ethnicity, which will never be true though, no matter how often she repeats it.

16 posted on 07/29/2010 8:59:10 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Kaslin
I wonder if Mr. Mezvinsky has read what God had to say about "interfaith marriages"?

Has Ms. Clinton read what the N.T. has to say about being "unequally yoked"?

I doubt very seriously if either of them know or care a whit.

17 posted on 07/29/2010 8:59:28 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things. Eccl 10 v 19)
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To: Kaslin
he American Religious Identification Survey of 2001 noted that mixed marriages are three times more likely to end in divorce or separation than same-religion marriages. According to Tina Molly Lang in Associated Content, studies of marriages between Jews and Christians indicate that they face even higher risks, with a greater than 40 percent chance of divorce within five years.

Ping for later

18 posted on 07/29/2010 9:01:17 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: Kaslin
Two liberals got married. Where's the "interfaith" in that?

(Yeah, I know. A Halakhically Jewish man married a non-Jew and his children won't be Jewish. But still . . . "interfaith?" "Reform Judaism" and liberal chr*stianity are basically the same thing.)

19 posted on 07/29/2010 9:01:40 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (. . . Lo' `al-halechem levaddo yichyeh ha'adam, ki `al-kol-motza' fi HaShem yichyeh ha'adam.)
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To: Kaslin

...several years ago Alan Dershowitz observed that so many American Jews were marrying gentiles; they would eventually die out...all that would be left would be a sect of observant Jews...they would be a splinter group like the Amish.


20 posted on 07/29/2010 9:02:29 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Kaslin

Social barriers have disappeared. But God still says we shouldn’t be unequally yoked.


21 posted on 07/29/2010 9:02:32 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Kaslin

“discussing” organized religion = shoveling SMOKE!


22 posted on 07/29/2010 9:02:46 AM PDT by Huebolt (Government bureaucracies: DE-UNIONIZE, DOWNSIZE, DECENTRALIZE)
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To: lonestar

I bet their wedding didn’t over $3million and I predict that that Chelsie and her groom will head for the divorce court within 5 years at the most


23 posted on 07/29/2010 9:03:34 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Saudi Huma married Jewish Cong Weiner.

Billy J Clinton hisself performed the ceremony.

Their homeland visits will be interesting.


24 posted on 07/29/2010 9:05:43 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Kaslin

I give it no more than three.

LLS


25 posted on 07/29/2010 9:06:01 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: Kaslin

That should have been didn’t cost over $3 million


26 posted on 07/29/2010 9:06:13 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I agree, but notice I said at the most


27 posted on 07/29/2010 9:07:24 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

This isn’t interfaith. The dads are both famous felons, their religion is “The Grift”.


28 posted on 07/29/2010 9:07:57 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Pollster1
Christians and Jews share the same scriptures except for the extremely large detail that Jews believe the Messiah has not yet come but will rule God’s kingdom while Christians know that Jesus came to save us all and rules in the heavenly kingdom.

Wow. Too bad Jews don't read the "new testament." Then they'd "know" it too, right?

After all, G-d would never allow the Protestant bible to be adulterated by false "scriptures." If He did, Protestantism would be untenable and the whole world would make no sense!

29 posted on 07/29/2010 9:07:59 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (. . . Lo' `al-halechem levaddo yichyeh ha'adam, ki `al-kol-motza' fi HaShem yichyeh ha'adam.)
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To: Kaslin
The Christian faith — indeed, virtually all religious faith, if taken seriously — is inherently exclusive

Extending Christian (or Muslim) exclusivity to other religious faiths isn't accurate. Many of the other religions of the world acknowledge the validity of other belief systems. I think "inter-cultural" might be more the source of incompatibility than "inter-faith".
30 posted on 07/29/2010 9:09:20 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Kaslin

Since religion is not really an issue here, it must be a political thing. Did Soros arrange this marriage?


31 posted on 07/29/2010 9:10:17 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Rio
Very true. Couples can take turns going to each other's church or synagogue, but when children come along, they generally need to pick one faith or the other so the children enjoy consistency.

We made it a point to expose our children to a number of different faiths. But all too often, parents take the easy route out and stop going at all.

Then the vacuum left in the value system which would have been filled by meaningful religious experience gets filled by secular humanist clap-trap.

32 posted on 07/29/2010 9:10:37 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Rio
It should not be such a huge problem unless they have children. That’s where the problem starts.

Exactly.

33 posted on 07/29/2010 9:12:32 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (my former tagline "We can, and we will prevail" doesn't fit with the usurper's goals.)
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To: Kaslin

“Observers have noted that both Clinton and Mezvinsky were raised in homes where religious faith was central to family life ...”

HUH??????

Chelsea was raised in a home where religious faith was central????

TO WHO - her serial philandering father??? Her cynical brass bottom mother???

Who wrote this piece of idiocy???

The fact is religions don’t marry - people do. The success or failure of a marriage is due to the commitment and maturity of the individuals involved and their abilities to accomodate their differing faiths.

I know of lots of Christian/Jewish marriages which are VERY successful. And marriages between different Christian religions are so commonplace as to not even be worthy of note anymore.

As for the FAILURES of marriages - that is endemic to our society at present and occurs irrespective of the religion or lack of same and can be attributed to the loss of self-control, self-respect and need for immediate gratification of the current generations of Americans.


34 posted on 07/29/2010 9:21:35 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: Kaslin

Now we know why the President wasn’t invited. No way would a Muslim want to attend the wedding of a Jew.


35 posted on 07/29/2010 9:22:47 AM PDT by Apple Blossom (Politicians are like diapers, they both need changed regularly, and for the same reason.)
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To: Kaslin

HUMMMM no ribs for Bubba?


36 posted on 07/29/2010 9:22:51 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Kaslin

“Secretary of State Hillary Clinton responded, “Over the years, so many of the barriers that prevented people from getting married, crossing lines of faith or color or ethnicity have just disappeared.”

EXPLANATION:

Did I give the correct response to advance my personal political career? Will it help me in 2012 to unseat that idiot I report to??


37 posted on 07/29/2010 9:24:16 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: Kaslin

I can’t understand why this is even an issue.


38 posted on 07/29/2010 9:25:25 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: onedoug

You mean those 3 things were never barriers to marriage?


39 posted on 07/29/2010 9:27:04 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: Kaslin

Why? Do you know them personally?


40 posted on 07/29/2010 9:29:05 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: Rio

Why is that?


41 posted on 07/29/2010 9:30:47 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: highlander_UW

Bingo. We don’t know what’s in their hearts, but from behaviour and outward appearances...


42 posted on 07/29/2010 9:35:23 AM PDT by greatplains
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To: Kaslin

I know you did... I still just had to say it. The clintons do that to me.

LLS


43 posted on 07/29/2010 9:43:25 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: Kaslin
When was the last time Chelsea was in a CHURCH???/ Just betting it's been YEARS!!

I am a Catholic, go to Mass every day, and my husband is Jewish, and we have NO problems because we have no kids.

44 posted on 07/29/2010 9:51:50 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Kaslin

Lets get over this boring news, here’s a news flash - people get married every day.


45 posted on 07/29/2010 9:54:42 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Zionist Conspirator; Karlin

Reminds me of a man in a similar situation who joked to me: “My future bride and I don’t yet know whether we’ll raise the kids as secular Jews or lapsed Lutherans.”


46 posted on 07/29/2010 10:15:58 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin' " . --- Yogi Berra)
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To: Kaslin

Bill Clinton, a Southern Baptist, was screwing Monica Lewinsky, a Jew . They did it on Easter Sunday morning before he went to church. I think Chelsea will be okay screwing a Jew. Daddy did it.


47 posted on 07/29/2010 10:54:02 AM PDT by shiva
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To: Rio

That means that they will need to have sex, ahhhhhhhh.


48 posted on 07/29/2010 11:32:36 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: greatplains
Bingo. We don’t know what’s in their hearts, but from behaviour and outward appearances...

Indeed. God is the one who knows for sure, but one would expect some fruit to observe if it was important to them. One sentence in the article that seemed very outlandish was this one...

Observers have noted that both Clinton and Mezvinsky were raised in homes where religious faith was central to family life...

Do they really expect me to believe religious faith was important in the household where oral sex isn't considered sex and the dishonesty of "it all depends on what the meaning if "is" is"? Sorry, but the fruit there is most certainly not of Christ.

49 posted on 07/29/2010 11:41:10 AM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to abdicate control of it to the government)
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To: Kaslin
I would hope they have worked thru all issues by now...they've gone together for a decade already.

Who know? I wish her the best...I feel sorry for her...have for years!

50 posted on 07/29/2010 12:39:47 PM PDT by lonestar (Barry is furious the big spill wasn't caused by EXXON...would have nationalized it by now.)
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