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School is out and petty holliganism is up
www.thefreelibrary.com ^ | 2 July 2010 | Neighborhood Watch

Posted on 07/02/2010 1:52:25 PM PDT by Vigilanteman

Please forgive the partial vanity, but we are having a situation in our neighborhood which is growing troublesome. I wonder if other Freepers are experiencing the same thing.

As school lets out, there is always an uptick in petty mischief-- kids moving or rearranging lawn ornaments, banging on your door in the wee hours of the morning and running off and other such annoyances.

But this year seems to be especially bad because part-time jobs are few and kids have too much time on their hands.

We've had our door beat on multiple times per night lately, as have other neighbors. Another had an expensive lawn decoration stolen (not just moved as was the previous case), another had a window broken in their entrance door during another bang and run incident.

We're all getting fed up. Most of us are armed, some of us are military veterans.

It is a generally nice middle to lower middle class neighborhood, good school district and little of these type of problems in the past.

The cops come out and are sympathetic, take reports but say there is nothing they can do except step up patrols unless the perps are caught in the act.

Some of us have the idea of a curfew where the wayward youths would be fined just for being out after 10 p.m. or whatever we decide is a reasonable hour. I am leaning toward supporting our neighbors in getting such a measure passed as it would provide an automatic incentive (revenue) for enforcement. I can't think of anything else which might work under the circumstances.


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Comments and suggestions from other Freepers who have experienced or successfully dealt with this same type of petty holliganism would be appreciated.

Most of the neighborhood works and we don't have time to hide in the bushes with a shotgun or any other such solution.

I really don't understand the motivation of punks to do this sort of thing and, maybe if we could, we could come up with a better solution to curtail it.

1 posted on 07/02/2010 1:52:32 PM PDT by Vigilanteman
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To: Vigilanteman

Hook up an eyeball camera to your computer point it at your entryt way and record the punks.


2 posted on 07/02/2010 1:58:46 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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To: Vigilanteman
A lot of the reason behind petty hooliganism (as opposed to outright vandalism) is the way the recipient of the mischief reacts.

Blow your top, and they keep coming. Ignore them - many stop. Kill them, they all stop (but then that creates other issues).

3 posted on 07/02/2010 1:58:59 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: Vigilanteman

When I lived in NH one of my neighbors was being bothered like that. One night he went outside with a shotgun and fired off three rounds into the air, which brought everyone out running to see what happened. He was yelling “I CAUGHT THEM TOUCHING MY STUFF, THEY WERE RUNNING BUT I THINK I WINGED ONE.” and basically acting like a nutter. They stayed away after that.


4 posted on 07/02/2010 1:59:35 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Vigilanteman

if open carry is legal where you are, have as many people as possible carry while doing outside chores. gardening, mowing, weeding, washing the car.. whatever.

i make a visible display of owning guns, and the couple years we had hooligans, no one messed with my house or vehicles- altho they got just about everyone else on the block.


5 posted on 07/02/2010 2:00:03 PM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: Vigilanteman

Video surveillance?

Motion detecting infrared cameras have come down significantly in price.

Hook it up to a PC or a VCR. Someone will recognize the hooligans. Once you’ve caught a few, make a very public example and the shenanigans will likely end.


6 posted on 07/02/2010 2:00:17 PM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: Vigilanteman

I am sure must be annoying, but some uf us are dodging bullets and road rage and druggies on every corner and would love to go back to something this simple. Prehaps the Local church would be interested in starting a program for these kids before they graduate up to other problems. Mrs. easternsky


7 posted on 07/02/2010 2:03:24 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

And then call their mothers at work.


8 posted on 07/02/2010 2:12:06 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids.)
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To: Vigilanteman

20 lb. test fishing line trip wire, old car battery, 500 pack of Black Cats.

After they change underwear, the misguided youths will likely pick another place for the next misadventure.


9 posted on 07/02/2010 2:16:41 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: Vigilanteman; hiredhand; Eaker; Lurker

BFLR .....BTTT !


10 posted on 07/02/2010 2:25:35 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Vigilanteman

Perhaps the neighborhood darlings can observe you sitting on the front porch cleaning your shotgun?

Remove anything that can be thrown through your windows.....

I know it’s pathetic but it must be done till they find another neighborhood to torment.

How about neighborhood watch. Men with large flashlights patrolling the streets in pairs for a couple of hours each night.


11 posted on 07/02/2010 2:31:08 PM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: Vigilanteman

It’s legal to shoot firearems on your property in our neck of the woods.

There’s lots of plinking at cans during this time of the year.

We don’t have a problem with hooliganism.


12 posted on 07/02/2010 2:35:47 PM PDT by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: Squantos
It would only take me another weekend to fence in the front yard. Then I'd put some of the big unfriendly dogs in there.

Numbers of bored people with no ethics or sense of direction ever do good things. :-)
13 posted on 07/02/2010 2:36:49 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: Vigilanteman

Where do you live?


14 posted on 07/02/2010 2:37:00 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: chrisser; Vigilanteman; Squantos; humblegunner
Video surveillance.

Gotta agree but include public beatings.

15 posted on 07/02/2010 2:54:47 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: Vigilanteman

We saw an immediate uptick in burglary and
vandalism when the school year ended. Not
much available in the summer jobs market.
Idle hands are the devil’s workshop.


16 posted on 07/02/2010 2:56:59 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: mrs. a

Everyone on this road has a practice range in the back yard. No problems here. The punks hang out around the snowbird subdivisions north of here, Big city refugees are easy prey.


17 posted on 07/02/2010 3:01:36 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: Vigilanteman

Stealth 12 guage,1 round packed with coarse salt, give em about a 30 yard lead, and aim low, around their feet.

One application, they will leave the whole neighborhood alone.


18 posted on 07/02/2010 3:04:28 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is fascist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: Vigilanteman
Non-lethal old school remedy that will probably get you arrested:

Shotgun loaded with rock salt.

19 posted on 07/02/2010 3:06:14 PM PDT by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: Vigilanteman

Neighborhood Watch.


20 posted on 07/02/2010 3:13:10 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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