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Scientists discover explanation for why the Universe exists
Yahoo News ^ | 05/20/2010 | Michael Bolen

Posted on 06/01/2010 12:39:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Sgt_Schultze

A God day could be a Billion yrs long in our perception of time.


101 posted on 06/01/2010 2:48:16 PM PDT by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Well, we know what makes the flowers grow -
but we don't know why,
And we all have the knowledge of DNA -
but we still die,
We perch so thin and fragile here upon the land
And the earth that moves beneath us,
we don't understand,
So we rush towards the Judgment Day,
when she reclaims,
A toast to the Luddite martyrs then,
who died in vain,
Down at the lab they're working still,
finishing up,
How do we tell the people in the white coats
Enough is enough?

~New Model Army—”White Coats”

102 posted on 06/01/2010 2:56:37 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (Language, Borders, Culture, Full employment for those here legally)
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To: SeekAndFind

Couldn’t read past the first dozen or so replies...wow, your post created a weirdo-avalanche event of galactic proportion.


103 posted on 06/01/2010 3:02:03 PM PDT by Moltke (panem et circenses)
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To: Greenbow

It’s OK for you to believe that the Earth is only 6000 years old. It doesn’t really hurt anyone. It’s also OK to believe that it’s not, because it is not necessary to believe that, in order to believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God.

Since the Sun, Moon and Stars didn’t exist until the fourth “day” I don’t suppose it was literally seven days, any more than I think it’s possible or reasonable to trace the generations back with any accuracy at all. But I don’t need to.

“Adam” also translates as “man”. Whether there really was an Adam and Eve or whether it’s an allegorical construct designed to explain the process of creation and evolution to illiterate sheepherders... also doesn’t matter to me. It’s not important, and I wasn’t there so I don’t really know. Someday we’ll all know and probably all laugh at how wrong we were about a great many things.


104 posted on 06/01/2010 3:20:37 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Greenbow

Then it is amazing how God gave us the brain we have and the cognitive ability to begin to understand the immensity of his creation, yet he leaves SOOOOOOOOO many clues that are at odds with a strict interpretation of the creation story in Genesis.

So which is inerrant? The account of creation in Genesis or the universe we can observe and study?


105 posted on 06/01/2010 3:25:20 PM PDT by SengirV
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To: Heavyrunner
Actually, the universe is both 15.5 billion years old and a little over 6000 years. It all depends on your relativistic point of reference.

See Gerald Schroeders' Age of the Universe for details:

Age of the Universe

106 posted on 06/01/2010 3:40:56 PM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Captain Beyond; AdmSmith; bvw; callisto; ckilmer; dandelion; ganeshpuri89; gobucks; KevinDavis; ...
Thanks Captain Beyond. An earlier, related topic:

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107 posted on 06/01/2010 3:52:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Greenbow

You’re not believing the bible if you believe in a 6000 year old universe but man’s attempt to use the Bible to get to a year counting backwards.

How long is a day when the earth didn’t exist? (Day 1 from Genesis)

I try not to limit God.


108 posted on 06/01/2010 7:05:24 PM PDT by morkfork (Candygram for Mongo)
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To: jveritas

And you know this is junk science due to your scientific analysis skills......??????


109 posted on 06/01/2010 7:07:12 PM PDT by morkfork (Candygram for Mongo)
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To: Greenbow

Both work for me, relativistically. Yet the picture (Hubble) seems pretty clear extending ~12 billion years, which makes God and His ways all the more interesting.

Biblical law in tension with Biblical narrative.


110 posted on 06/01/2010 7:10:50 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: SeekAndFind
Furthermore, Berlinski is both a well-read, worldly scholar (particularly in mathematical physics) and a wordsmith of the first order, making it a delight to read his tactful demolitions of the secular empire. He is particularly adept at exposing the scientific pretensions of people who claim they know things that equally honest and intelligent people can say they don’t know.

I had never heard of Berlinski until my sister gave me The Devil's Delusion for my birthday. Wonderful book.

111 posted on 06/01/2010 7:15:22 PM PDT by RightField (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: morkfork

Yes.


112 posted on 06/01/2010 7:35:12 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: Ancient Drive

Exactly. Which explains the fallacy of a 6,000 year old Earth when we realize God is eternal and not on Earth time.


113 posted on 06/01/2010 7:50:53 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: SengirV

God gave us a brain to understand and marvel at his Scripture.


114 posted on 06/01/2010 8:28:05 PM PDT by Greenbow (Trust in God.)
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To: onedoug

The “Hubble picture” is a work of man. The Word of God trumps the works of man.


115 posted on 06/01/2010 8:29:15 PM PDT by Greenbow (Trust in God.)
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To: Greenbow

I do, but it doesn’t mean I bury my head in the sand and ignore God’s creation.


116 posted on 06/02/2010 5:16:03 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: SeekAndFind

Then again, by denying cognizance of God, there is no meaning for existence, ergo no meaning for the lives of scientists seeking to find that meaning, but still in denial of God.

One can still study science, through faith in what God provides and even more is revealed by Him and His so great love for us.


117 posted on 06/02/2010 5:21:32 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Greenbow

‘Never said they didn’t.


118 posted on 06/02/2010 5:29:24 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Ramius

Well stated argument regarding the the validity of both scientific and religious points of view.


119 posted on 06/02/2010 9:47:28 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: Greenbow

How many hours were the days prior to Genesis 1:14?


120 posted on 06/02/2010 9:53:42 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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