Posted on 05/21/2010 12:34:24 PM PDT by kronos77
In the year of 1999 US and NATO led by Bill Clinton and Maddie Allbright attacked Serbia over Kosovo. What is not known to wide public is that during same period US and Russia led START II negotiations, and in those days nuclear deal is suposed to be harsh on Russian side. The act of war against Serbia caused Russians to abandon START II talks.
11 years later, US and Russia made a nuclear deal that is, this time, pretty restraining on US side, and same Maddie Allbright that was state secretary in 1999 declared that US and NATO will reduce or totally remove nuclear warheads from Europe.
So, is actually Clinton/Allbright war of 1999 a defeat brought by than(and present) administration!?
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Here are news of those days:
"April 2, 1999: The Duma postpones a scheduled vote on START II ratification to protest NATO's bombing campaign against Yugoslavia, which started March 24 after Serbia refused to halt military actions against Kosovar Albanians seeking autonomy. (Moscow has historically allied itself with Serbia.)"
http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/start2chron
"Russian envoy to return Friday
Russia's special envoy on the Balkans, Viktor Chernomyrdin, intends to travel to Belgrade on Friday to meet once again with Milosevic. He was scheduled to leave Thursday, but his trip was delayed because of extended talks with his two fellow special envoys -- U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott and Finnish President Marrti Ahtisaari.
Chernomyrdin went on with the talks despite Russian objections to Milosevic's indictment and the NATO campaign.
Chernomyrdin, in an editorial in The Washington Post on Thursday, repeated Russian threats to pull out of the negotiating process if NATO does not stop its attacks.
"Unless the raids stop soon," he wrote, he will recommend to President Boris Yeltsin that Russia stop all military and technological cooperation with the United States and Europe.
Chernomyrdin said he would also recommend a delay in the ratification of the START II nuclear arms-reduction treaty and the use Russia's veto on any U.N. resolution on Yugoslavia."
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9905/27/kosovo.02/
Russia’s special envoy on the Balkans, Viktor Chernomyrdin, intends to travel to Belgrade on Friday to meet once again with Milosevic. He was scheduled to leave Thursday, but his trip was delayed because of extended talks with his two fellow special envoys — U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott and Finnish President Marrti Ahtisaari.
Chernomyrdin went on with the talks despite Russian objections to Milosevic’s indictment and the NATO campaign.
Chernomyrdin, in an editorial in The Washington Post on Thursday, repeated Russian threats to pull out of the negotiating process if NATO does not stop its attacks.
“Unless the raids stop soon,” he wrote, he will recommend to President Boris Yeltsin that Russia stop all military and technological cooperation with the United States and Europe.
Chernomyrdin said he would also recommend a delay in the ratification of the START II nuclear arms-reduction treaty and the use Russia’s veto on any U.N. resolution on Yugoslavia.
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9905/27/kosovo.02/
Are we talking about the same Kosovo war that Klinton told us we’d only be involved in for 6 months? THAT war?
NATO Strikes Against Yugoslavia Cloud U.S.-Russian Arms Control
DRAMATICALLY underscoring Russian anger at NATO air strikes against Yugoslavia, Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov turned his plane around over the Atlantic and canceled a March 23–25 visit with Vice President Al Gore in Washington to discuss a broad range of issues, including arms control. Yet the degree to which the air strikes, which began March 24, will impede U.S.-Russian progress on arms control remains unclear, as setbacks on START II and “Y2K” cooperation were balanced by progress on the highly enriched uranium (HEU) purchase agreement and the Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (CFE) Treaty. (See CFE story.)
START II Delayed—Again
Primakov, recognizing that the NATO air strikes had poisoned the political climate for START II ratification, asked the Duma on March 26 to postpone its consideration of the treaty. The next day, the Duma overwhelmingly adopted a 16-point resolution condemning NATO’s military action and recommending that the Russian government “temporarily revoke” the draft START II resolution of ratification submitted by President Boris Yeltsin only days earlier.
On March 16, the START II ratification process—sidetracked by the U.S.-British air strikes against Iraq in December (see ACT, November/December 1998)—had resumed when the Duma forwarded to Yeltsin the resolution of ratification produced by International Affairs Committee Chairman Vladimir Lukin and Defense Committee Chairman Roman Popkovich. Under Russian legislative procedures, only the president can submit ratification bills to the Duma.
Also on March 16, Primakov warned on national television that if Russia failed to ratify START II, the United States would withdraw from the ABM Treaty, creating the possibility of a new arms race.
http://www.armscontrol.org/act/1999_03/natmr99
Tell me again, as an American, why I should now care after the Serbs backed Russia in the Georgia dust-up a couple of years ago - and I used to be quite sympathetic to what happened to the Serbs in 1999.
Serbia and Georgia are friendly nations.
Obama and Clinton plus all the elites are owned by the Saudis. The KLA in Albania were/are close allies of Bin Laden.
Don’t forget the help from Bob Dole.
What a freaking idiot.
Once again, as an American, tell me why I should care now. Y’all lost me in 2008 as as supporter.
The American left has pissed Russia off for the last time.
LIAR.
It was a Democrat war though, so it was ok. Wag The Dog.
Possibly, and they'll happily take credit for it. Albright, especially, hated the power this country had.
My friend, that is how sovereign and friendly nations act.
True, it was a Democrat war but it also had the support of the whole crew of Republican neocons as well as George Bush.
please provide evidence for you claims
I was against this War in the first place! The Serbs were keeping the terrorist in Kosovo in line and disrupting the arms and drug flow from Afghanistan through Kosovo!!!
Kosovo didn’t become evident as a “strategic defeat” for the United States until two later events played out, one being the Russian invasion of Georgia, and the second being Erdogan and his party having built the momentum to round up the top military brass in Turkey and charged them with treason.
Combined, the entirety of the CIA objectives in the region were lost to the Russians and Islamists.
Which left what was committed in Kosovo as efforts and treasury to halt a simmering guerrilla war, and the US could have just as easily opposed the Germans support of the KLA.
It was a Democrat war though, so it was ok.
All true, and the purpose was economic. Western Europe considers Eastern Europeans (including Russians) inferiors and servants.
On the contrary they were simply hobbled by communism, are intelligent, adaptable and posed an emerging manufacturing and economic threat to Western European economies. It was necessary to suppress their development.
Demonize the non Muslim defenders, portray the Muslim terrorist invaders as victims, and whack the emerging competitive economy.
Georgia elected to suck up to the Western Europe/NATO scam for personal gain, so Putin and the new Russia made them an object lesson.
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