Posted on 04/27/2010 1:06:17 PM PDT by worst-case scenario
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is speaking out against the new hard-line immigration law in Arizona, becoming the first prominent national Republican to do so.
"I think it creates unintended consequences," he said in a telephone interview with POLITICO Tuesday. "It's difficult for me to imagine how you're going to enforce this law. It places a significant burden on local law enforcement and you have civil liberties issues that are significant as well."
The measure, signed into law last Friday, would require police to check the immigration status of any individuals they reasonably suspect are illegal immigrants and arrest them if they can't prove legal status.
Bush said he understood the anger that prompted the bill, but that immigration should remain a federal issue.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0410/36427.html#ixzz0mKhY8Vdc
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
What about citizens that look like illegals, that do not carry an ID around when they’re walking?
So what is supposed to be done. If not this, what?
We could be like the Dominican Republic and shoot people trying to enter illegally. Would that be acceptable?
We could be like many of our European friends and be forced to carry papers that prove citizenship. Would that be acceptable?
The only thing that is “acceptable” to a sizable minority is to do nothing. Their solution is to have open borders and quick citizenship. They think that this will lead to them gaining political power - and that is what it is all really about, political power.
It is ridiculous to have laws on the books that are ignored by the Federal government and that the states are prohibited from enforcing.
A lot of people don’t carry an ID with them when they are not driving.
If I’m walking or riding my bike to the store, I don’t carry anything other than money, lots of people do. I’m not a criminal...or would I be if I didn’t carry the proper papers with me at all times?
All they have to do is set foot in the US.
“I called for a heavily armed border back when the pubbies were pushing amnesty and I still see that as the best route. “
I think a heavily armed border would work better than the measure in AZ ever will. Stop em before they get in.
Federal. If a Cuban can get to a bus going into the US from Mexico, all he has to do is get out of the bus when immigrations says to...and they are on US soil.
Pretty classy, calling a man’s wife a whore on an anonymous forum.
The last paragraph says that Marco Rubio has also come out in opposition to the bill. “Rubio, whose parents were Cuban immigrants, said the legislation could ‘unreasonably single out people who are here legally, including many American citizens.’”
I have warned people about Rubio....he is pro-illegal alien
FIVE TIMES....while as Speaker of the Florida House, Rubio killed bills that would have made it easier for Florida to enforce the laws already on the Federal books dealing with Illegal Aliens....including E-Verify. Rubio killed them all
Fact is that Rubio is not the conservative people think he is....he is more like Mel Martinez, Jr.
I am in total agreement about Bush “aiding and abetting” illegal immigration. What I couldn’t understand was *why* he did it? Was it because he was paying off his business cronies by supplying cheap labor? Was it to destroy America’s manufacturing base by eliminating all the American workers? Was it it guarantee a vast divide between his family and class, and the rest of the hoi-polloi?
Why did he do it? Part of a scheme for a one-continent country from the Arctic to Chiapas? Why?
DITTO!
Jeb Bush obviously has not read the bill, and I no longer trust his judgment. And Marco Rubio needs to read the bill before he jumps on the Bush bandwagon!
I am listening to the Lou Dobbs show from Arizona now.
See the bill here thanks to Lou Dobbs:
http://loudobbs.com/blog;jsessionid=5E43B44B482DE88C587CBEDDC7C417A4?action=viewBlog&blogID=-102257380381714222
I hope the citizens of Arizona continue to support their Governor and also elect JD Hayworth to the US Senate!
http://www.jdforsenate.com/
Bushes & Rubio are RINOs. I am not voting for Crist but I am not voting for Rubio. Maybe a real conservative will enter the race in FL. Rubio and the Bushes are just like MCCain, Crist and Graham-nesty.
Bill McCollum is so much better than Rubio. Rubio’s lying on amnesty reminds me of Tony Montana in Scarface.
Bob Smith (who is also running in the GOP senate primary), will be getting my vote.
I knew Rubio was pro-illegal alien as he killed so many bills in the FL House dealing with illegals.
At least with Bill McCollum, Florida will have a more conservative governor starting in 2011
Quite a difference between AZ and FL. There’s more sympathy for illegals in FL because many of them were/are fleeing a rotten communist regime (remember how many conservatives were on Elian Gonzales’ side for example).
AZ is a difference scenario.
Florida now has a lot of illegal aliens from Mexico...and South and Central America. In fact, most of the Hispanics in South Florida are now non-Cuban....many are Illegal Aliens from South and Central America
The only real difference between Florida and Arizona is that illegals coming to Florida have a little more water to cross....
Lots of people forget their drivers license when changing purses too. Chances are very good - unless there is a reason for them to be stopped - they are given the opportunity to have the officer follow them home, so they can produce an I.D.
The only problem that arises is that they don't have one.
Bob Smith is running in the primary? Yeah Rubio is an open-borders RINO like Crist. I will tell friends to vote for Bob Smith.
Does Bob Smith have a web site?
I told Rubio to stop sending me his stinking emails. He is a fraud like Crist.
Thus the reason Jeb Bush will never be President...
Poor Jeb - guess the fact that he has a Hispanic wife causes him to say something stupid about enforcing the law.
Pretty classy of him, and others like him, calling law-abiding American citizens and legal immigrants "racists" to cover for illegal behavior of the invaders.
Yes but even they forget. Witness Gloria Estefan throwing a fund raiser for THE ONE and his horde.
Brazilians are all over FL too. Big in the drug trade too.
Illegals are illegals and Crist and Rubio love em.
I cannot imagine cops are going to be randomly asking people for papers. Generally they have to have some suspicion. There are PLENTY of illegals they stop for some other reason - you know, driving down the wrong side of the freeway at 90 MPH, etc.
I’m not offended I’m saying I give up hoping for principled conservative leaders.
Rubio has to do this and I could defend him on a number of levels. But the bottom line is illegal immigration is not good for the country and his position is a fine example of it. You can’t oppose the citizen hispanics politically.
And the day after they get amnesty, the politicians will have to treat the new citizens as citizens. In fact we all will.
That’s what’s so insidious about the whole situation.
We’d be furious if the Federal government tried to pass a law that stated everyone had to carry proof of citizenship at all times. What would we feel if your STATE tried to pass such a law? Because this is what the AZ law will amount to, at least in areas where everyone isn’t known by the Law already.
These RINOs feel morally superior to 75% of Arizonans. So much so that they haven’t even verified the facts.
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IMMIGRATION. IT IS THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND THE BACK DOOR TAKING OVER OUR COUNTRY THAT WE ARE AGAINST!
Any question?
No doubt. Always suspicious of residents of Florida since McCain was magically resurrected there in the ‘08 primary, though.
Well, as long as you're satisfied with the status qou - I won't rain on your parade.
I don’t miss any Bush.
Why did he do it? Part of a scheme for a one-continent country from the Arctic to Chiapas? Why?
There is your reason why GWB pushed Open Borders and Amnesty
Most people who support Illegal Alienism are also Open Borders, One World Government, NAFTA, CAFTA, WTO supporters....
As someone once told me about people like Bush...”Treason Is The Reason”....
post #90 has been deleted the word in concern is a synonym for the ‘F’ word in Spanish.
For heaven’s sake! Please read the bill before you make a statement.
Can we finally finish with this nest of New England liberals?
I am so sick of hearing the praises of these useless, ineffectual, smug, inept, incompetent and unintelligent wooden nickels.
"Rubio, whose parents were Cuban immigrants, said the legislation could 'unreasonably single out people who are here legally, including many American citizens.'"Oh geez, another Republican dimwit.
Single them out, and then what Marco? Beat them? deport them? Arrest them?....
Woooo wait, I know. An officer of the law might ask them for their ID....The horror.
Jeb Bush, boy the Bush’s sure took conservatives for a ride. In fact they still are.
Rubio supporting his raza, Gee imagine that. For the race everything outside the race nothing.
Tell Jeb I said kiss my white Arizona butt
I love when RINO’s make it easy for me to cross them off my list.
Bob Smith is running in the primary? Yeah Rubio is an open-borders RINO like Crist. I will tell friends to vote for Bob Smith.
Does Bob Smith have a web site?
I told Rubio to stop sending me his stinking emails. He is a fraud like Crist.
I am not sure if Smith has registered before the Primary (registration is due on Friday April 30)....but I have been leaning his direction the past few months. He has gotten little publicity outside of local radio shows in the state
I will try to find a website for the Smith campaign
I can neither vote for Crist or Rubio. I am surprised all the praise for Rubio...when many around the state knew that Rubio is virulently pro-illegal alien. This is the reaso why Mel Martinez decided not to run for re-election
What is scary is that Crist will run as Independent. Crist has a lot of support from Dems and Independents...and could win the election....
If you give the vote to all these illegals no more conservatives will ever hold office.
This is the time of decision. When those times come upon you, it is best to do the right thing. When you do the right thing there is always hope for the future.
As for Bush, shut up, Jeb. We don't want you or any other Bush folk in the future.
I agree. I think Reagan was forced to accept him by the party to have a balanced ticket. I’m sure Bush bucks and the bucks of his globalist buddies helped him.
I really loath the Bushes.
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As do I. Their proxy is Romney, IMO.
They completely destroyed all that conservatives accomplished from Goldwater to Reagan.
I agree, we now have taxation without representation.
we have preferences under the law by slave owners who profit from the status quo.
we are back to a slave/enslaved society based on the whims of an elected entrenched aristocracy of DC and wall street.
I don’t disagree with the law. C’mon, read my whole post. I do say there are good people who have legitimate concerns. The law still apparently FITS the needs of Arizona. Hell, when 70% of the people agree with it, you know it is a popular move.
The cops in Arizona will on the whole, I am sure, apply this law appropriately and not get carried away. I do have a good friend of Cuban descent who thinks it might be abused. I don’t think it WILL be abused.
Americans are NOT RACISTS, and this law gives a GREAT CHANCE to prove that...
As opposed to what, a Southern segregationist maggot of those days?
Prescott Bush was a moderate Republican in a conservative time. He supported defense programs and the moderate civil rights proposals of the day and opposed deficit spending and free trade.
He left the Senate in 1963, before our current political divide opened up. If Bush had stayed on and voted for Johnson's Great Society programs your abuse might have a point, but as it is, it doesn't.
Maybe Bush loved birth control more than he should have, but he comes across as a decent, respectable Republican in a much quieter time. Blaming him for what his grandchildren do is just stupid.
Crist is horrible but Rubio is just a younger Mel Martinez who is also backed by the Bush klan.
I would love to see a Tea Party candidate beat Crist and Rubio. Rubio sucks as much as Crist.
Crist is going to run as an independent. I would bank on it.
Rubio has fooled a lot of people obviously. I cannot stand Crist either. This really sucks.
I guess I don’t understand what you mean. Do you think that the Federal Government should pass a law requiring that everyone carry proof of citizenship at all times?
They are selling us out!
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