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Jeb Bush speaks out against Ariz. law
Politico ^ | Apr 27, 2010 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 04/27/2010 1:06:17 PM PDT by worst-case scenario

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is speaking out against the new hard-line immigration law in Arizona, becoming the first prominent national Republican to do so.

"I think it creates unintended consequences," he said in a telephone interview with POLITICO Tuesday. "It's difficult for me to imagine how you're going to enforce this law. It places a significant burden on local law enforcement and you have civil liberties issues that are significant as well."

The measure, signed into law last Friday, would require police to check the immigration status of any individuals they reasonably suspect are illegal immigrants and arrest them if they can't prove legal status.

Bush said he understood the anger that prompted the bill, but that immigration should remain a federal issue.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0410/36427.html#ixzz0mKhY8Vdc

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arizona; bush; fl; florida; immigration; jebbush; nomorebushs; rinogop; rubio; squattersupportsquad; stayoutdabushes
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To: longtermmemmory

What about citizens that look like illegals, that do not carry an ID around when they’re walking?


101 posted on 04/27/2010 2:02:08 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: longtermmemmory

So what is supposed to be done. If not this, what?

We could be like the Dominican Republic and shoot people trying to enter illegally. Would that be acceptable?

We could be like many of our European friends and be forced to carry papers that prove citizenship. Would that be acceptable?

The only thing that is “acceptable” to a sizable minority is to do nothing. Their solution is to have open borders and quick citizenship. They think that this will lead to them gaining political power - and that is what it is all really about, political power.

It is ridiculous to have laws on the books that are ignored by the Federal government and that the states are prohibited from enforcing.


102 posted on 04/27/2010 2:03:45 PM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: LADY J

A lot of people don’t carry an ID with them when they are not driving.


103 posted on 04/27/2010 2:04:31 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: little jeremiah

If I’m walking or riding my bike to the store, I don’t carry anything other than money, lots of people do. I’m not a criminal...or would I be if I didn’t carry the proper papers with me at all times?


104 posted on 04/27/2010 2:07:06 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

All they have to do is set foot in the US.


105 posted on 04/27/2010 2:08:08 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: meyer

“I called for a heavily armed border back when the pubbies were pushing amnesty and I still see that as the best route. “

I think a heavily armed border would work better than the measure in AZ ever will. Stop em before they get in.


106 posted on 04/27/2010 2:09:04 PM PDT by snarkybob (')
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To: LADY J

Federal. If a Cuban can get to a bus going into the US from Mexico, all he has to do is get out of the bus when immigrations says to...and they are on US soil.


107 posted on 04/27/2010 2:09:39 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: meadsjn

Pretty classy, calling a man’s wife a whore on an anonymous forum.


108 posted on 04/27/2010 2:12:26 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: worst-case scenario

The last paragraph says that Marco Rubio has also come out in opposition to the bill. “Rubio, whose parents were Cuban immigrants, said the legislation could ‘unreasonably single out people who are here legally, including many American citizens.’”


I have warned people about Rubio....he is pro-illegal alien

FIVE TIMES....while as Speaker of the Florida House, Rubio killed bills that would have made it easier for Florida to enforce the laws already on the Federal books dealing with Illegal Aliens....including E-Verify. Rubio killed them all

Fact is that Rubio is not the conservative people think he is....he is more like Mel Martinez, Jr.


109 posted on 04/27/2010 2:13:06 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD Hayworth for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com)
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To: ZULU

I am in total agreement about Bush “aiding and abetting” illegal immigration. What I couldn’t understand was *why* he did it? Was it because he was paying off his business cronies by supplying cheap labor? Was it to destroy America’s manufacturing base by eliminating all the American workers? Was it it guarantee a vast divide between his family and class, and the rest of the hoi-polloi?

Why did he do it? Part of a scheme for a one-continent country from the Arctic to Chiapas? Why?


110 posted on 04/27/2010 2:13:31 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: Persevero; 356SC; chiller; Brytani; Bushbacker; Rafterman; HonestConservative; 20yearvet; ...
“It’s not Hispanic vs. white. It’s legal vs. illegal. We can’t let them make it about race. It is not about race.”

DITTO!

Jeb Bush obviously has not read the bill, and I no longer trust his judgment. And Marco Rubio needs to read the bill before he jumps on the Bush bandwagon!

I am listening to the Lou Dobbs show from Arizona now.
See the bill here thanks to Lou Dobbs:
http://loudobbs.com/blog;jsessionid=5E43B44B482DE88C587CBEDDC7C417A4?action=viewBlog&blogID=-102257380381714222

I hope the citizens of Arizona continue to support their Governor and also elect JD Hayworth to the US Senate!
http://www.jdforsenate.com/

111 posted on 04/27/2010 2:14:50 PM PDT by seekthetruth (Dan Fanelli House FL 8 --- Allen West House FL 22 --- Marco Rubio- For Senate)
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To: LADY J
It is a Federal Law, passed after the Bay of Pigs failure, I think.
112 posted on 04/27/2010 2:15:34 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Pray for my soul. More things are wrought by prayer Than this world dreams of.-- Idylls of the King)
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To: Frantzie

Bushes & Rubio are RINOs. I am not voting for Crist but I am not voting for Rubio. Maybe a real conservative will enter the race in FL. Rubio and the Bushes are just like MCCain, Crist and Graham-nesty.

Bill McCollum is so much better than Rubio. Rubio’s lying on amnesty reminds me of Tony Montana in Scarface.


Bob Smith (who is also running in the GOP senate primary), will be getting my vote.

I knew Rubio was pro-illegal alien as he killed so many bills in the FL House dealing with illegals.

At least with Bill McCollum, Florida will have a more conservative governor starting in 2011


113 posted on 04/27/2010 2:16:30 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD Hayworth for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com)
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To: Siena Dreaming

Quite a difference between AZ and FL. There’s more sympathy for illegals in FL because many of them were/are fleeing a rotten communist regime (remember how many conservatives were on Elian Gonzales’ side for example).

AZ is a difference scenario.


Not exactly....

Florida now has a lot of illegal aliens from Mexico...and South and Central America. In fact, most of the Hispanics in South Florida are now non-Cuban....many are Illegal Aliens from South and Central America

The only real difference between Florida and Arizona is that illegals coming to Florida have a little more water to cross....


114 posted on 04/27/2010 2:19:41 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD Hayworth for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com)
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To: stuartcr
A lot of people don’t carry an ID with them when they are not driving.

Lots of people forget their drivers license when changing purses too. Chances are very good - unless there is a reason for them to be stopped - they are given the opportunity to have the officer follow them home, so they can produce an I.D.

The only problem that arises is that they don't have one.

116 posted on 04/27/2010 2:22:40 PM PDT by LADY J (Change your thoughts and you change your world. - Norman Vincent Peale)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Bob Smith is running in the primary? Yeah Rubio is an open-borders RINO like Crist. I will tell friends to vote for Bob Smith.

Does Bob Smith have a web site?

I told Rubio to stop sending me his stinking emails. He is a fraud like Crist.


117 posted on 04/27/2010 2:24:26 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain & Graham = La Raza's favorite Senators)
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To: worst-case scenario

Thus the reason Jeb Bush will never be President...

Poor Jeb - guess the fact that he has a Hispanic wife causes him to say something stupid about enforcing the law.


118 posted on 04/27/2010 2:24:31 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: stuartcr
Pretty classy, calling a man’s wife a whore on an anonymous forum.

Pretty classy of him, and others like him, calling law-abiding American citizens and legal immigrants "racists" to cover for illegal behavior of the invaders.

119 posted on 04/27/2010 2:25:07 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Yes but even they forget. Witness Gloria Estefan throwing a fund raiser for THE ONE and his horde.


120 posted on 04/27/2010 2:25:25 PM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Brazilians are all over FL too. Big in the drug trade too.

Illegals are illegals and Crist and Rubio love em.


121 posted on 04/27/2010 2:25:56 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain & Graham = La Raza's favorite Senators)
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To: stuartcr

I cannot imagine cops are going to be randomly asking people for papers. Generally they have to have some suspicion. There are PLENTY of illegals they stop for some other reason - you know, driving down the wrong side of the freeway at 90 MPH, etc.


122 posted on 04/27/2010 2:27:14 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I’m not offended I’m saying I give up hoping for principled conservative leaders.

Rubio has to do this and I could defend him on a number of levels. But the bottom line is illegal immigration is not good for the country and his position is a fine example of it. You can’t oppose the citizen hispanics politically.

And the day after they get amnesty, the politicians will have to treat the new citizens as citizens. In fact we all will.

That’s what’s so insidious about the whole situation.


123 posted on 04/27/2010 2:29:15 PM PDT by Williams (It's the policies, stupid)
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To: LADY J

We’d be furious if the Federal government tried to pass a law that stated everyone had to carry proof of citizenship at all times. What would we feel if your STATE tried to pass such a law? Because this is what the AZ law will amount to, at least in areas where everyone isn’t known by the Law already.


124 posted on 04/27/2010 2:30:37 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: throwback
Cuban Americans tend to be better Americans than ivy leaguers.
125 posted on 04/27/2010 2:35:59 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Pray for my soul. More things are wrought by prayer Than this world dreams of.-- Idylls of the King)
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To: worst-case scenario
Jeb Bush, speaking for the entire Bush family, speaks out against Ariz. law
126 posted on 04/27/2010 2:37:16 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: pnh102

These RINOs feel morally superior to 75% of Arizonans. So much so that they haven’t even verified the facts.


127 posted on 04/27/2010 2:38:37 PM PDT by donna (SarahPAC has donated money to...(wait for it)...Lindsey Graham!)
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To: worst-case scenario

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IMMIGRATION. IT IS THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND THE BACK DOOR TAKING OVER OUR COUNTRY THAT WE ARE AGAINST!

Any question?


128 posted on 04/27/2010 2:39:36 PM PDT by poobear
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

No doubt. Always suspicious of residents of Florida since McCain was magically resurrected there in the ‘08 primary, though.


129 posted on 04/27/2010 2:39:42 PM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: worst-case scenario
"We’d be furious if the Federal government tried to pass a law that stated everyone had to carry proof of citizenship at all times."

Well, as long as you're satisfied with the status qou - I won't rain on your parade.

130 posted on 04/27/2010 2:40:28 PM PDT by LADY J (Change your thoughts and you change your world. - Norman Vincent Peale)
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To: worst-case scenario

I don’t miss any Bush.


131 posted on 04/27/2010 2:41:20 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Free the last Navy Seal)
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To: worst-case scenario

Why did he do it? Part of a scheme for a one-continent country from the Arctic to Chiapas? Why?


There is your reason why GWB pushed Open Borders and Amnesty

Most people who support Illegal Alienism are also Open Borders, One World Government, NAFTA, CAFTA, WTO supporters....

As someone once told me about people like Bush...”Treason Is The Reason”....


132 posted on 04/27/2010 2:41:31 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD Hayworth for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com)
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To: meadsjn; stuartcr

post #90 has been deleted the word in concern is a synonym for the ‘F’ word in Spanish.


133 posted on 04/27/2010 2:42:08 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Pray for my soul. More things are wrought by prayer Than this world dreams of.-- Idylls of the King)
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To: worst-case scenario

For heaven’s sake! Please read the bill before you make a statement.


134 posted on 04/27/2010 2:43:08 PM PDT by griswold3
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To: worst-case scenario

Can we finally finish with this nest of New England liberals?

I am so sick of hearing the praises of these useless, ineffectual, smug, inept, incompetent and unintelligent wooden nickels.


135 posted on 04/27/2010 2:43:16 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Is it sedition to defy usurpation?)
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To: worst-case scenario
"Rubio, whose parents were Cuban immigrants, said the legislation could 'unreasonably single out people who are here legally, including many American citizens.'"
Oh geez, another Republican dimwit.

Single them out, and then what Marco? Beat them? deport them? Arrest them?....

Woooo wait, I know. An officer of the law might ask them for their ID....The horror.

136 posted on 04/27/2010 2:43:26 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: worst-case scenario

Jeb Bush, boy the Bush’s sure took conservatives for a ride. In fact they still are.

Rubio supporting his raza, Gee imagine that. For the race everything outside the race nothing.


137 posted on 04/27/2010 2:43:27 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: worst-case scenario
"You boys get back on the plantation, you hear me"

Tell Jeb I said kiss my white Arizona butt

138 posted on 04/27/2010 2:45:31 PM PDT by winodog
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To: worst-case scenario

I love when RINO’s make it easy for me to cross them off my list.


139 posted on 04/27/2010 2:45:55 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Frantzie

Bob Smith is running in the primary? Yeah Rubio is an open-borders RINO like Crist. I will tell friends to vote for Bob Smith.

Does Bob Smith have a web site?

I told Rubio to stop sending me his stinking emails. He is a fraud like Crist.


I am not sure if Smith has registered before the Primary (registration is due on Friday April 30)....but I have been leaning his direction the past few months. He has gotten little publicity outside of local radio shows in the state

I will try to find a website for the Smith campaign

I can neither vote for Crist or Rubio. I am surprised all the praise for Rubio...when many around the state knew that Rubio is virulently pro-illegal alien. This is the reaso why Mel Martinez decided not to run for re-election

What is scary is that Crist will run as Independent. Crist has a lot of support from Dems and Independents...and could win the election....


140 posted on 04/27/2010 2:47:00 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD Hayworth for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com)
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To: Williams
I know we’re going to hear how everyone is a “RINO” but truly conservative senate candidates is going to become a very lonely club if we base it on this law.

If you give the vote to all these illegals no more conservatives will ever hold office.

This is the time of decision. When those times come upon you, it is best to do the right thing. When you do the right thing there is always hope for the future.

141 posted on 04/27/2010 2:47:51 PM PDT by donna (AZ Maricopa County 2008: Illegal aliens down 30%. Total felonies down 18.5%. Thx Sheriff Arpaio!)
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To: worst-case scenario
If you are here legally, then you have NOTHING to worry about! Can't believe how many people fail to see the similarities to sobriety check lanes or random searches at the airport.

As for Bush, shut up, Jeb. We don't want you or any other Bush folk in the future.

142 posted on 04/27/2010 2:47:58 PM PDT by rintense
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To: ZULU

I agree. I think Reagan was forced to accept him by the party to have a balanced ticket. I’m sure Bush bucks and the bucks of his globalist buddies helped him.

I really loath the Bushes.

**************************************

As do I. Their proxy is Romney, IMO.

They completely destroyed all that conservatives accomplished from Goldwater to Reagan.


143 posted on 04/27/2010 2:48:12 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Is it sedition to defy usurpation?)
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To: Crusher138

I agree, we now have taxation without representation.

we have preferences under the law by slave owners who profit from the status quo.

we are back to a slave/enslaved society based on the whims of an elected entrenched aristocracy of DC and wall street.


144 posted on 04/27/2010 2:50:34 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: meyer

I don’t disagree with the law. C’mon, read my whole post. I do say there are good people who have legitimate concerns. The law still apparently FITS the needs of Arizona. Hell, when 70% of the people agree with it, you know it is a popular move.

The cops in Arizona will on the whole, I am sure, apply this law appropriately and not get carried away. I do have a good friend of Cuban descent who thinks it might be abused. I don’t think it WILL be abused.

Americans are NOT RACISTS, and this law gives a GREAT CHANCE to prove that...


145 posted on 04/27/2010 2:52:43 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: US Navy Vet
Wveryone here had better look up Jeb’s(and George’s) granddad “Prescott Bush” to see what the family’s POS legacy is. Prescott Bush was a N/E liberal MAGGOT!

As opposed to what, a Southern segregationist maggot of those days?

Prescott Bush was a moderate Republican in a conservative time. He supported defense programs and the moderate civil rights proposals of the day and opposed deficit spending and free trade.

He left the Senate in 1963, before our current political divide opened up. If Bush had stayed on and voted for Johnson's Great Society programs your abuse might have a point, but as it is, it doesn't.

Maybe Bush loved birth control more than he should have, but he comes across as a decent, respectable Republican in a much quieter time. Blaming him for what his grandchildren do is just stupid.

146 posted on 04/27/2010 2:53:02 PM PDT by x
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Crist is horrible but Rubio is just a younger Mel Martinez who is also backed by the Bush klan.

I would love to see a Tea Party candidate beat Crist and Rubio. Rubio sucks as much as Crist.

Crist is going to run as an independent. I would bank on it.


147 posted on 04/27/2010 2:55:14 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain & Graham = La Raza's favorite Senators)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Rubio has fooled a lot of people obviously. I cannot stand Crist either. This really sucks.


148 posted on 04/27/2010 2:56:20 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain & Graham = La Raza's favorite Senators)
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To: LADY J

I guess I don’t understand what you mean. Do you think that the Federal Government should pass a law requiring that everyone carry proof of citizenship at all times?


149 posted on 04/27/2010 3:00:15 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: worst-case scenario
I'm about fed up with this crap! These "republican leaders" must realize that blanket amnesty will assure that the marxist democrats remain in power permenentely. It will be the end of conservative influence in government.

They are selling us out!

150 posted on 04/27/2010 3:06:30 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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