Posted on 04/11/2010 7:26:58 AM PDT by CherylMc
This e-mail claims that because of the new health care law, the IRS will have to hire 16,500 agents to audit Americans and enforce penalties for people who don't want to buy health insurance. Is this true?
This has to do with the new taxes, subsidies and tax credits that will be generated by the new health care law and how they will be administered and collected.
FactCheck.org and PolitiFact.com looked at the claim and found that the math used to arrive at the figure is - at best - fuzzy.
(Excerpt) Read more at jacksonville.com ...
Those liberal outfits “fact-checkers”? lol
If the Government is involved the numbers will only GROW!
Fact Check is useless propaganda, not a serious source
Often have Dems site Snopes or other liberal sites as being the final word in any debate. About as reliable as the rest of MSM, which means not at all.
I just love this laughable quote from the article:
“PolitiFact.com is a Pulitzer Prize-winning, nonpartisan project of the St. Petersburg Times.”
...nonpartisan!? Now that got a real chuckle out of me!
DEFUND!!!
DEFUND!!!
DEFUND!!!
That's the job of the IRS is new superfriendly Obamistan!! Can the IRS get me a cup of coffee while they're serving me?
And even though people will have to get insurance starting in 2014, IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman testified before Ways and Means last month that the IRS won't be auditing anyone to certify that, FactCheck.org reports. Interestingly enough, the law also rules out any criminal penalties for those who don't get coverage or refuse to pay the tax.
So you're required by law to get insurance, but nobody has to pay the penalties and they won't be punished in any way if they don't!
Thanks liberals for providing the self-contradicting and obviously false information to "fact" me straight, you effin moron jackasses. The awesomeness of your stupidity confounds my ability to grasp its dimensions.
Most times they use Factcheck.org as the final word. The only problem is that FactCheck is runned by the Annenberg
Public policy center. They are on *O*’s payroll!
“PolitiFact.com is a Pulitzer Prize-winning, nonpartisan project of the St. Petersburg Times.”
The St. Petersburg Times is widely known as the most liberal newspaper in the entire State of Florida. The Times Union is second.
And Carole Fader is the most biased, incompetent excuse for a journalist that ever breathed a breath.
“Fact Check is useless propaganda, not a serious source”
Oh, but the young neo-Marxist love to quote it, along with Media Matters (house organ for Obots and the CPUSA).
This is what the author states:
The 16,500 number was extrapolated from an early Congressional Budget Office forecast that the IRS might need $5 billion to $10 billion over 10 years for all the administration and processes involved...
The CBO did not specify, however, how many new hires the IRS would have to make...but it used IRS employment figures and "reasonable assumptions" to suggest that as many as 16,500 additional "examiners, agents, and other employees" could be needed...
Overhead costs, such as offices, desks and computers, were not included, nor were any salary increases...
When you factor in those costs, the number of employees that could be hired is somewhere between 11,800 and 16,500...
I find this disingenuous. First, you won't need additional offices, desks, and computers unless you have additional people. Second, 11,800 new IRS agents is not a whole lot better than 16,500. Third, what does "salary increases" mean? You're going to need to pay salary increases no matter what, so I doubt that was included in the $5 to $10 billion estimate in the first place.
Third, I edited it out above, but the author's suggestion that the St. Pete Times is a "non-partisan" source is laughable, as is the author's assertion that William Ayers' benefactor, the Annenberg Foundation, is a non-partisan source.
“The awesomeness of your stupidity confounds my ability to grasp its dimensions.”
Wish I’d have read your comment before writing the Editor to complain, so I could have included it. You hit the nail on the head !!!! :-)
Editor, if you’re inclined to write, is Frank Denton, frank.denton@morris.com
Truth or Fiction may be a better source for such debunking stuff.
the Gop says “as many as 16,500”
and the nonpolitical outfit says “ the number of employees that could be hired is somewhere between 11,800 and 16,500, PolitiFact.com notes”
Where does that differ from “as many as 16,500”?
Does not their figures exactly bear out the GOP figures?
Congress defunds - but does that stop the gov’t from demanding insurance payments from the people? THAT is the most destructive
‘runned’?
Right. They'll just fine the hell out of you. That's fair. (morons).
Interesting that they didn't point out that the IRS ALREADY has 104,000 employees. Maybe a few of those could take up the slack?
I’d have to look into that to give a more thorough answer, BUT without funding, and no funding for enforcement, it has no teeth.
This law will stay on the books until either repealed or tossed out by the SCOTUS, but if they can’t effectively enforce it without proper funding, that is the way to go for now. Starve the beast.
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