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Texas has worst record of prison sex abuse - 5 of the 10 U.S. facilities w/ highest sexual assault
Houston Chronicle ^ | April 5, 2010, 10:05AM | MEREDITH SIMONS and ROBERT GAVIN

Posted on 04/05/2010 11:23:38 AM PDT by a fool in paradise

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To: a fool in paradise
Just one of *many* reasons to avoid criminal activity.
41 posted on 04/05/2010 12:09:50 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: a fool in paradise

Inmates don’t go to jail or prison to BE punished. The fact that they have lost their freedom IS the punishment. Criminality in any form cannot be tolerated in a correctional setting whether it is perpetrated by an inmate or an officer. Any person, at any moment could be swallowed by the system regardless of their guilt or innocence. If that happens, you (or your wife or child) will be years extricating yourself from the situation. At that point it will be too late and no one will be interested in your views on humane treatment of prisoners. It’ll just be sour grapes from a guy who “didn’t want to give it up”.


42 posted on 04/05/2010 12:10:12 PM PDT by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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To: CodeToad
Straight men don’t rape other men.

No, but bi men do. There are a lot more of them than homosexuals.

43 posted on 04/05/2010 12:14:49 PM PDT by NonZeroSum
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To: NonZeroSum

“No, but bi men do. There are a lot more of them than homosexuals.

Bi is homo. Once again, if a man has sex with men, regardless if he has sex with women, animals or himself, and regardless of why, he is a homo.


44 posted on 04/05/2010 12:18:20 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: TexasCajun

Am I to understand you correctly that you think that homosexual rape is simply part of a normal prison sentence?

Or should be?


46 posted on 04/05/2010 12:22:24 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.)
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To: ansel12

For once I agree with you.

And not because I am planning on an extended vacation in Huntsville, either.


48 posted on 04/05/2010 12:25:38 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.)
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To: a fool in paradise
I've never been in jail, other than visiting someone else or making a medical call on a prisoner. There are several problems in dealing with this situation.

First, people don't like to spend money on prisons. It costs a lot of money to build and staff a prison in such a way that it's unlikely prisoners would be able to get at and rape each other.

People doing long sentences are very creative. The lengths prisons go to to prevent anything from being used as a weapon are unreal. They even make the toothbrushes extra short so people can't make the handle into a shiv.

Prison guard money isn't good and the work isn't fun. This means you get people in there as guards that you'd rather not hire.

As others have noted on this thread, there's also a tendency to believe the justice system makes prison too cushy, and the rape of inmates is a way to extract the justice that the courts didn't deal out. It's a tough problem to overcome.

49 posted on 04/05/2010 12:26:00 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Eagle Eye
Rape is a part of prison life, it is a reality.

No one deserves it.

Not part of a formal sentence, that's stupid.

Guards don't care or are part of the problem.

You do something or not to get thrown in prison there is a risk of being raped.

Fact of life in any prison. ...you're not in Kansas any more!

Report it to the guards and then your labeled a snitch.

Is it fair, hell no, it's prison!

50 posted on 04/05/2010 12:30:31 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Eagle Eye
For once I agree with you.

I don't know what that means, or why you would want to post it to me.

52 posted on 04/05/2010 12:32:16 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Why are the non "social conservative" Republicans so unconservative?)
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To: CodeToad
Bi is homo. Once again, if a man has sex with men, regardless if he has sex with women, animals or himself, and regardless of why, he is a homo.

No, bi is bi. There is a difference between men who can do it with both men and women, and those who are only attracted to men. There are many more of the former than the latter.

53 posted on 04/05/2010 12:32:18 PM PDT by NonZeroSum
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Sounds like Johnny Ray might actually enjoy his weekend “getaways”. I’m thinking Johnny Ray might be in denial and his trips to the jailhouse provide him his “cover”.


54 posted on 04/05/2010 12:35:42 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: TexasCajun
If you don’t want to give it up, don’t do the crime.

What if you don't do the crime but end up behind bars anyway? It's been known to happen, and it apparently isn't that rare. Prisons are there to keep criminals off the street - they aren't there to give bigger prisoners and prison guards their own special place to commit rape.
55 posted on 04/05/2010 12:36:52 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: TexasCajun

It seems that I confused your apathy for endorsement.

That’s why I asked if I understood or not.


56 posted on 04/05/2010 12:39:13 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.)
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To: a fool in paradise
"You do understand that they also permit violent attacks and murders as well, right?"

Better on the inside than the outside or do you advocate, for them just being a victim of society? It is the life they chose, they better be able to deal with it.

58 posted on 04/05/2010 12:44:05 PM PDT by sniper63 (Bang,Bang, Maxwell's Silver hammer........)
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To: CodeToad

“Are you really THAT stupid? “

Maybe, or just well read :)

Words have meanings, your version of “homosexual” is one definition.

Another is “one who is sexually attracted to the same sex”.

Is the guard in this story a homo? Would he identify as such?

BTW I read your “Are you really THAT stupid? “
in the same voice as the raping hillbillies in deliverence:

“That river don’t go to Aintry”

SO, yes your aggressive confrontational style is similar to the repressed man that, without any women around , nevermind.....


59 posted on 04/05/2010 12:46:40 PM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: sniper63

Guards’ tacit approval of gang beatdowns benefits no one. Least of all, the taxpayers.


60 posted on 04/05/2010 12:46:42 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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