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Texas has worst record of prison sex abuse - 5 of the 10 U.S. facilities w/ highest sexual assault
Houston Chronicle ^ | April 5, 2010, 10:05AM | MEREDITH SIMONS and ROBERT GAVIN

Posted on 04/05/2010 11:23:38 AM PDT by a fool in paradise

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To: StolarStorm

It’s despicable. And if you don’t care about abuse of your fellow man at the hands of the state, consider that we are so over-lawed today that ANY of us could find ourselves in prison. The fact that you and I post at this subversive web site makes it even more likely for us.


21 posted on 04/05/2010 11:48:56 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Retired Greyhound
Re: never falsely imprisoned.

If they were convicted on evidence from the Houston Crime Lab there is a good possibility the guy/gal might not belong.

22 posted on 04/05/2010 11:49:44 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: a fool in paradise

Whenever male rape in prisons comes up there is always a reaction of some to make light of it, or even to try and justify it, a few almost seem to enjoy the idea of young guys busted for a crime “giving it up” in prison, I think that suppressed homoerotic fantasies are partly involved in those reactions.

There is something very weird in this decades old tolerance by seemingly normal white males and voters, of homosexual rape and breaking in of straight men as part of their prison sentence, and what does it say about the administrators and uniformed males that run the gay playground prisons?

There is a sub story to this that has never been looked into.


23 posted on 04/05/2010 11:51:45 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Why are the non "social conservative" Republicans so unconservative?)
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To: DManA

“we are so over-lawed today that ANY of us could find ourselves in prison”

Exactly! Very well said.


24 posted on 04/05/2010 11:51:56 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: TexasCajun

Christian compassion on display!

now just hush about doing the crime...we both know this is ungodly. It is state sponsored rape and I do not care what the prisoner did, is it ok for a guard to rape him?
Would that guard be welcome in your home? to babysit your children?

So shame on anyone here who talks tough and ignores the crime here, the state sanctioned crime.


25 posted on 04/05/2010 11:52:06 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: DManA
Rand:

There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. When there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.

26 posted on 04/05/2010 11:53:15 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: ansel12

There are men in prison with “life” sentences who then murder when they are behind bars. We were told at time of conviction that they would “never kill again” and that we don’t need a death penalty for some prisoners.

What do you do to further punish such a prisoner?

Ultimately prisoners are in the care of the State. Guards are not just there to keep the other guards from getting injured by prisoners.


27 posted on 04/05/2010 11:53:51 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: StolarStorm
The only way to prevent prisoner on prisoner rape is to put Chasity belts on them.... or build them little individual houses with showers, a bathroom, and nice kitchenette, and their own personal exercise yard.

Actually, the way to do this would be to put closed circuit cameras in every part of the prison (including showers, prison guard locker rooms and toilets), and require the warden to keep - on pain of dismissal with revocation of pension and imprisonment - several years worth of video archives. The ACLU, which would probably sue to prevent this, is going to go apeshit, but cameras everywhere would also do a number of contraband smuggling and other categories of crime.

28 posted on 04/05/2010 11:54:09 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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To: a fool in paradise

Anyone directly or indirectly implying homosexual rape as a judicial correctional tool, deserves to suffer the same.


29 posted on 04/05/2010 11:54:13 AM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: Unassuaged
No one deserves to be raped.

I stand by my statement, if you don't want to be raped in prison then you better think if the crime you are thinking of is worth that risk.

And if you are in prison based on evidence from the Houston Crime Lab, then you are a multiple victim.

30 posted on 04/05/2010 11:55:16 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: CodeToad
“Seems homos are the more likely to go to prison as there seems to be loads of prison rape. Straight men don’t rape other men. Homosexuality is a mental illness.

Seems homos are the more likely WORK IN prison as there seems to be loads of prison rape. Straight men don’t rape other men - how would you know?
Homosexuality is a mental illness. — If there were women to rape, they would be — Rapists are the mentally ill ones here, the homo angle is an afterthought.

31 posted on 04/05/2010 11:56:00 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: Dudoight

It was probably safer before you guys abandoned the rope and the tree. ;-0


32 posted on 04/05/2010 11:56:18 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: a fool in paradise

I know a few people that have woked in Jails, the story don’t smell right. Prisoners buggering each other is old news, staff another. Most prison guards that I have met are rather macho and to be branded as a sodomite might be a problem.


33 posted on 04/05/2010 12:00:21 PM PDT by Little Bill (Carol Che-Porter is a MOONBAT.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Anyone convicted of prison rape ought to be shackled down, fed through a tube, and cleaned off via an overhead shower head that turns on for a 1/2 hour every day and empties into the toilet drain pipes. Let the bastards learn to hold it in or soak in their own waste for most of the day. (Again, an impractical idea because of the ACLU).


34 posted on 04/05/2010 12:01:11 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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To: DManA
I consider this sort of thing to be similar to the "war is hell" concept. Prison is hell. Its supposed to be. Like war, bad things happen in prison... unintended events but likely given the situation.

You could spend a fortune and I still don't think you could eradicate prisoner on prisoner rape. Perhaps doing a better job of keeping violent offenders from the non violent ones, would be the most reasonable method of reducing it. I don't really care if violent criminals rape each other.

As for guards, if there is proof of course prosecution should occur... but I bet most charges are false.
35 posted on 04/05/2010 12:01:18 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: Unassuaged

“Straight men don’t rape other men - how would you know?

Are you really THAT stupid? If you sodomize a man you are a homo by definition. You cannoy possibly be straight. If you have sex with other men you are a homo, no matter the reason.


36 posted on 04/05/2010 12:03:24 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: StolarStorm

Don’t care.

“You would if you were one of the how ever many percent convicted in innocently. “


37 posted on 04/05/2010 12:03:31 PM PDT by jy1297
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To: DManA

Yes, just lask week FR had that thread about the guy that planted child-porn on a guys computer so he would be arrested, and then his wife would be available, or someone could plant drugs in your car...next thing you know, you’re screaming set-up as they cart you away.


38 posted on 04/05/2010 12:04:32 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: piytar

Yes. We’re supposed to be a nation of laws. No state includes rape as a penalty for crimes committed.


39 posted on 04/05/2010 12:05:31 PM PDT by cydcharisse (`)
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