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So Just When an Albanian Catholic Calls his Fellow, Largely Muslim, Albanians on their Dirty Deeds…
Republican Riot ^ | March16, 2010 | Julia Gorin

Posted on 03/17/2010 2:11:13 PM PDT by Bokababe

…the mainstream news picks up on the boldness — and insolence toward our masters– and demands that the hero apologize and be “disciplined.” Below is some hack, grind, mainstream journalist’s report on this “shocking” video, in the Detroit News — with my translations.

Notice what the very tone of the title reveals: While a person from the community/ethnicity that Americans insist on being dumb about is TELLING us that these people were *not* the victims they claimed to be and that we’ve done something policy-wise that is not only self-destructive but destructive to the maturation of the Albanian community, here comes the mainstream media to *correct* the man about his fellow countrymen, and keep steering you wrong.

With video: Catholic priest called ethnic war victims ‘dogs’

(Excerpt) Read more at juliagorin.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; US: Michigan; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: albanian; islam; kosovo; kosovoisserbia
The Albanian Catholic priest made the remarks in this video Julia is commenting on -- calling the Albanian Muslims "dogs" -- right after the foiled attack on Fort Dix, where 4 of the attackers were Muslim Albanians. Someone posted the video to YoutTube recently prompting the story from the Detroit News.
1 posted on 03/17/2010 2:11:14 PM PDT by Bokababe
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; vooch; ...

2 posted on 03/17/2010 2:12:25 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

I don’t know much about Albanian Muslims, they seem so much more modern than the Iranian-Taliban type from what I know. lol.

I don’t know how much crap of the Ayatollah they agree with:

http://www.uncoverage.net/2010/03/the-ayatollah-khomeinis-booksex-with-children-and-animals/


3 posted on 03/17/2010 2:24:07 PM PDT by GeronL (I said it yesterday and I'll say it today and everyday: Tomorrow I stop being so lazy!!)
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To: Bokababe

bump


4 posted on 03/17/2010 2:45:14 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (1.416785(71) x 10^32)
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To: GeronL
Six years ago today, Albanian Muslims began attacking the Serb civilian population in Kosovo right under the nose of the UN & NATO -- destroying Serb homes and churches and beating up even the elderly.

But it was the Fort Dix incident that really set this priest off -- and in his own words:

"I was angry, very angry, about the lack of response in the Albanian and Kosovar communities against the criminals who planned to kill American soldiers at Fort Dix, New Jersey"

Given that four of the six perpetrators were Muslim Albanians, you'd think that Muslim Albanians would have some "reaction".

5 posted on 03/17/2010 2:48:06 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

You would think.

Its amazing how little denunciation we hear from Muslims about terrorism.


6 posted on 03/17/2010 2:54:29 PM PDT by GeronL (I said it yesterday and I'll say it today and everyday: Tomorrow I stop being so lazy!!)
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To: GeronL

And it’s also AMAZING how little denunciation we hear in our secular press about Muslim atrocities against Christians who are killed, tortured, raped, forcibly converted daily around the world...


7 posted on 03/17/2010 4:57:02 PM PDT by eleni121 (For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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To: eleni121
A priest in Yuma called Islam one of the great religions of the world a few years ago at mass.

I emailed him telling him why he was wrong and never heard back from him.

Jesus didn't turn the other cheek with the money changers and I don't think that we are to turn the other cheek with these murdering swine.

Don't listen to CAIR or their minions, read about Islam for yourself. mohammad was a pig and why any sane person would follow his teachings is beyond me, that is unless they are perverts!

8 posted on 03/17/2010 6:02:08 PM PDT by mckenzie7 (Democrats = Trough Sloppers!)
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To: mckenzie7

a priest in Yuma? how about the great ‘high priests” of major Christian faiths? They are all guilty of hypocrisy.


9 posted on 03/17/2010 6:18:03 PM PDT by eleni121 (For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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To: Bokababe

Video removed due to term of use violation....


10 posted on 03/17/2010 6:57:52 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946
"Video removed due to term of use violation....

Yes, I saw that after I posted this. Sorry.

I wanted to post the original Detroit News story last week when the video was still up, but the Detroit News doesn't want FR posts. When Julia did this article, I thought "great!", but now they've taken the video down. Darn!

I guess the Muslim population and the rest of the dhimmi demanded an apology from the priest, got it, and then removed the video because it served its purpose.

I did see the video. The priest, addressing a room full of Albanians, was angry and he said that these Albanian Muslims (referring to the Ft. Dix 6) acted like "dogs", "didn't deserve independence" and should be "dealt with the way Milosevic dealt with the other dogs -- in Kosovo and Bosnia"-- if this is how they behave. He was obviously referring to Muslims.

11 posted on 03/17/2010 7:40:40 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: eleni121
how about the great ‘high priests” of major Christian faiths? They are all guilty of hypocrisy.

In your opinion!

12 posted on 03/17/2010 8:17:27 PM PDT by mckenzie7 (Democrats = Trough Sloppers!)
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To: mckenzie7

When they bow and scrape to islam thay are worse than hypocrites.

I am being kind using the owrd hypocrite....


13 posted on 03/17/2010 8:39:41 PM PDT by eleni121 (For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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To: Bokababe

The whole thing pisses me off to no end. Aside from everything else, Islam itself is based on an utterly false idea i.e. the idea that it’s even physically possible for anybody to be a “prophet” in our own age of the world, i.e. within the last 2600 years or thereabouts. Ever heard of Julian Jaynes or have any familiarity with that story?


14 posted on 03/17/2010 8:53:49 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946
Ever heard of Julian Jaynes or have any familiarity with that story?

From what I understand, Julian James argued that early man's mind existed in two realities -- one that dreamed and one that obeyed the dreams -- the product of a bicameral mind. But as we evolved in the modern age, the wall between the two "brains", trains of thought broke down and we incorporated the dream with an equal dose of rationality to create our experience.

If I understand you correctly, you are saying that Muslims still function in that bicameral world, while the rest of us have moved beyond it. We don't just "hear voices and react", we think about what we are doing and weigh our choices rather than just adopt the dream and obey it.

First and foremost, I think that we need to understand that Islam was the religion for a life born of deprivation and scarcity. It is a religion of the desert, where the continuation of life is the exception and not the rule. Lack of water, lack of food, disease, any one of a hundred things could and did kill you and yours, so it survival was based on cunning, cruelty and absolutism, and Mohamed stated that survival ideology perfectly.

The real problem is that we want to live, while the Islamists are focused solely on Islamic survival in numbers. They may learn the tricks of the West to fool us, but they still think like a man who is dying of thirst and who sees us as a "the owner of a lake".

I can tell you of long experience with a person who always thinks in terms of scarcity, you can never, ever convince them that there will be enough for both of you and that peace and "sharing is the best policy". It won't work. It isn't in their mindset.

15 posted on 03/18/2010 12:40:01 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
First and foremost, I think that we need to understand that Islam was the religion for a life born of deprivation and scarcity. It is a religion of the desert, where the continuation of life is the exception and not the rule. Lack of water, lack of food, disease, any one of a hundred things could and did kill you and yours, so it survival was based on cunning, cruelty and absolutism, and Mohamed stated that survival ideology perfectly.

That's got part of it; nonetheless there are a billion and more slammites in the world today and their basic plan is to swamp the planet with their own demographics. Other than that as I see it, I-slam was originally devised as a religion ideally suited for controlling increasingly larger confederations of bandit tribes and one of the problems today is that the bandit-tribe model of society has simply become obsolete and bypassed by events.

Then there's the question of what the words 'prophet' and 'prophecy' are supposed to mean and Jaynes got part of that story right but not all of it. "Bicameral mind" meant the actual use of a part of the human brain which is no longer used i.e. the right side analog to the speech (Wernicke) area which is not used today.

Jaynes claimed it had evolved so as to produce hallucinations both visual and auditory. That is clearly unworkable; a small group of human ancestors beginning to hallucinate on a regular basis would quickly be annihilated by other humans without any such problems.

Jaynes thesis as to why this thing passed out of existence is also unworkable. The real answer has to do with static electricity and is found mainly in the writings of Al de Grazia and Hugh Crossthwaite.

After the flood and the incident associated with the tower of Babel, there arose religious practices intended for communication with the spirit world and these included the Greek oracles, prophets, people with "familiar spirits" (e.g. the ghost story in the Old Testament about King Saul, the prophet Samuel, and the 'witch of Endor'), idolatry, and electrostatic devices such as the pyramids or the "ark of the covenant". All of those things involved trance states similar to that of hypnosis, and they all involved static electricity; when the planet's surface electrostatic fields totally collapsed, all of those things stopped working.

In particular, anybody claiming to be a prophet after that time is a BS artist. Not only does that include Muhammed and Joseph Smith but, as far as I am concerned, it also includes St. John "the devine" and the "book of revelations" which, again to my thinking, should not be in the bible.

The first paragraph of the Book of Hebrews strongly indicates that prophets were a thing of the distant past at the time of Jesus:

1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son,

Likewise Jesus' ministry was entirely in this world. You do not read about Jesus flying off to heaven on a flying carpet or flying camel or sitting around in a cave until he starts to hallucinate.

In Genesis prior to the flood of course you do not read about any of those ritualistic practices, because God and spirits speak to men directly. There is reason to think that the thing Jaynes discovered was the normal basis of human communications prior to the tower of Babel, and was in the process of becoming increasingly dysfunctional in the time period which Jaynes studied.

16 posted on 03/18/2010 7:02:44 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Bokababe

We can’t have Albanians speaking the truth about Kosovo now can we? No no no no, that will not do, we can’t have them f***ing up the narrative.


17 posted on 03/18/2010 10:00:29 AM PDT by montyspython ("I don't believe in 'no win' scenarios." - James T. Kirk)
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To: wendy1946
""Bicameral mind" meant the actual use of a part of the human brain which is no longer used i.e. the right side analog to the speech (Wernicke) area which is not used today."

Wow, it's been a long time since I have had to use my memory of brain physiology but if I recall correctly, Wernicke's area is actually on the left side of the brain -- and Wernicke's area is still used in speech comprehension. We've also learned from brain injuries that the brain is much more resilient that we originally thought in that often -- especially in women-- the brain can reproduce a necessary but damaged function in a completely different side of the brain. I'd have to do a lot more reading from the authors yous suggested to be able to have an opinion on it, but unfortunately I am going to be tied up for the next week on a project, so please be patient with me. I have bookmarked it.

...in particular, anybody claiming to be a prophet after that time is a BS artist. Not only does that include Muhammed and Joseph Smith but, as far as I am concerned, it also includes St. John "the devine" and the "book of revelations" which, again to my thinking, should not be in the bible.

The Book of Revelations is a difficult book to understand, and at times I have shared you sentiment. There are some who believe that St. John was referring to the Roman Empire of his own time, and others who do not. My guess is that it was included in the Bible to signify that one day life as we know it would come to an end and we need to be prepared -- I do however think that Revelations has been severely misused and misrepresented, especially in our own times.

Unfortunately, if you throw out Revelations based on St. John's experience, you also throw out St. Paul who only met our Lord Jesus Christ AFTER the Crucifixion & Resurrection. In short, you wind up throwing out nearly the whole New Testament.

I think Islam is wrong simply because it's wrong. It's far too concerned with the details of this world -- behavior and politics-- and far too unconcerned with mental and spiritual introspection of the individual believer to be any kind of real experience of God. Islam preaches pure external conformity of the individual to the hive. Islam is more a political movement than it is a religion in any sense we know know religion to be.

18 posted on 03/18/2010 12:02:45 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
"-- especially in women-- the brain can reproduce a necessary but damaged function in a completely different side of the brain..."

There's a joke in there just waiting to pop out. :-)

19 posted on 03/18/2010 12:38:27 PM PDT by montyspython ("I don't believe in 'no win' scenarios." - James T. Kirk)
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To: Bokababe
Wow, it's been a long time since I have had to use my memory of brain physiology but if I recall correctly, Wernicke's area is actually on the left side of the brain -- and Wernicke's area is still used in speech comprehension.

What I said is that there is a right side equivalent to the left-side Wernicke area and this right-side analogue to the speech center is (today) a neurophysiological equivalent to the human appendex and serves no purpose which anybody can discern. Moreover, there is a bridge crossover of sort between the two areas. Nonetheless doctors told Jaynes that when that useless area is stimulated with electrical probes, people claim to hear voices.

Jaynes claimed that this now useless part of the brain was involved in religious practices and produced hallucinations in ancient times. I claim the thing was originally a kind of a radio receiver and served for purposes of communication during time periods prior to those which Jaynes studied.

At any rate, none of that stuff works today and hasn't for the last 2600 years more or less, and anybody claiming to be a prophet in 600 AD or 1830 AD was basically a BS artist and a fraud.

Mohammed could have claimed to be a second son of God but nobody would have taken him seriously. He clearly figured the one thing he might claim to be which nobody knew enough about to call him on was a "prophet".

20 posted on 03/18/2010 1:11:48 PM PDT by wendy1946
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