Is There A Spiritual World?

enterprise Record Post Scripts ^ | 6/14/09 | Chuck Ness

[Korah]

In today's technological age, it might seem silly for intelligent people to consider a spiritual world where beings we cannot see might exist. Oh it's fine to read books and watch Hollywood movies about the afterlife and spirits that roam the netherworld but that's all make believe, not the real world. In the real world we are taught that reality consists of what we can touch, taste, see, hear, smell, and that the spirit world is for those weak minded individuals who use religion as a crutch to get through the day.
 

However, what if I told you that scientists have concluded that there is a strong possibility that a parallel universe really does exist? Now, as a Christian I do not need proof that a spirit world exists, but it is my belief that God wants us to do our utmost to understand what it is He has Created. That being said, the Spirit World is an aspect of God's Creation that we can only speculate upon just as Rene Descartes, the father of modern day philosophy did. Descartes admitted that God was the Creator of the world, but he believed that the spiritual world existed solely in the minds of men. So I guess the question would be, does a parallel spirit world exist, or is it just a figment of our fertile imaginations?
 

I would suggest that in order to properly answer that question, we need to first realize that God gave us a mind and the ability to think on a level with Him, if only we allow ourselves to put the silly notions of men aside. One silly notion is that reality only exists within the dimension that our physical bodies dwell in. In other words, most modern day philosophers follow Descartes and claim that our whole existence is based upon our five senses. But then they must totally ignore modern science that proves a spirit world can and does exist even if we may have difficulty imagining it. 
 

Consider for a moment how much more space is in an atom than solid matter; in fact there are some 30,000 times more space than there is mass. A hydrogen atom made up of one proton and a single orbiting electron is a perfect example of the enormous amount of space in an atom. If you could enlarge the proton of a hydrogen atom to the size of a baseball, the electron of that atom would be about the size of a BB rotating around the proton ten miles away at the speed of 10,000 miles a second. Now if the earth were a proton and the moon an.....

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[Korah]

I read this and it really made me think about the way so many scientists do not believe in God. Yet, if their knowledge of physics allows them too accept the possibility that parallel universes can co-exist simultaneously with ours, then why is it so difficult for them to accept the reality that an all knowing all powerful God can also exist?

[ErnstStavroBlofeld]

Its possible. That the “spiritual world” is another dimensional level.

[Korah]

So you agree that it is scientifically possible, and not just something that those of faith would or could conceive of?

[daniel1212]

Once you have been born again, there is no question. A few links relative to spiritual reality of Christ:

http://www.cbn.com/700club/features/Amazing/ (various amazing testimonies)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3682855866783766146 (Glimpse of Eternity with Ian McCormack: stung by box jellyfish)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4136610474021109864 (Dr Maurice Rawlings - NDE – Interviews: To Hell and Back; including an atheist)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6547221602055506348&q=mickey+robinson&total=57&start=0&num=50&so=0&type=search&plindex=1 ( mickey robinson — air crash to Christ)

“A Venture in Faith” (documentary of Calvary Chapel)http://www.ccsaintpaul.org/ministries/servantsclass/A_VENTURE_IN_FAITH.wmv (download)

Written testimonies:
http://www.christian-faith.com/truestories.html
http://www.truthsaves.org/testimony/
http://www.miraclebook.org/reviews.html

Research on NEDs:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=near+death+experiences+habermas&sitesearch=video.google.com (Research NDE)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I9-XxBAEsQ (BBC - The day I died)

[ErnstStavroBlofeld]

More like faith.

[shibumi]

I have much greater doubts about the so-called reality of this physical plane, from which we view the whole of creation through the glass, darkly.

I seriously believe the implications of Plato’s Cave, described in “The Republic.”

[redpoll]

>>>I read this and it really made me think about the way so many scientists do not believe in God.<<<

That’s “some” scientists. Most of the scientists that I’ve known and worked with not only believe in God, but their exploration of the sciences confirms the wonder and beauty of God’s creation.

Don’t confuse some loud and confused athiests with the whole group.

As I see it, the more I know about the complexity, structure, and vastness of the universe, the more it makes me appreciate God. I’m not alone in these feelings, either.

[thecodont]

God is the creator of all that is seen AND unseen!

[nralife]

bookmark bump

[ErnstStavroBlofeld]

more it makes me appreciate God

I agree.

[James C. Bennett]

I think it has more to do with being turned off by dramatics.

For example, many cannot stomach the Old Testament.

[Korah]

That’s “some” scientists. Most of the scientists that I’ve known and worked with not only believe in God, but their exploration of the sciences confirms the wonder and beauty of God’s creation.

I actually agree with you about the scientists. But how can those who don't believe not see when they know what they know?

[ErnstStavroBlofeld]

Good Post!

[zorro8987]

thank you for posting this.

[TXnMA]

"Most of the scientists that I’ve known and worked with not only believe in God, but their exploration of the sciences confirms the wonder and beauty of God’s creation."

I count myself as one of those...

[teppe]

... here’s a non-traditional Christian Thought (LDS), maybe God has both a body and a spirit and can interact with both worlds. As you all know, after his resurrection Christ materialized in a room with his disciples, and when they were frightened, he stated “handle me and see, for a spirit has not flesh and bone as ye see me have” (Luke 24:39) He later ascended into heaven with his spirit enclosed in his body of flesh and bone, while two angles claimed that Christ would return in a similar manner (Acts 1:11).

There are no scriptures saying that Christ ever abandoned his ressurected body of flesh and bone.

I believe that Christ’s physical resurrection was not simply a stunt for his disciples, but that he had and has his glorified physical body with which allows him compatablility and dominion within both the physical and spiritual realm.

[hwkbeer]

Intersting post.Dr Missler has a biblical point of view of science on this vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=496V7OR35vs

[ARepublicanForAllReasons]

...why is it so difficult for them to accept the reality that an all knowing all powerful God can also exist?

As a former materialist, I have found the answer in the Hindu wisdom that God loves to hide himself in His creation, so that we may learn to see past transient things and behold Him behind the veil of Maya.

[ARepublicanForAllReasons]

I have much greater doubts about the so-called reality of this physical plane, from which we view the whole of creation through the glass, darkly.

When Jesus talked about 'overcoming the world', I believe that he meant seeing beyond the apparent creation (what Hindus call 'Maya') to the Cosmic Creator, ie. God, who is omnipresent, yet hidden from ordinary human sight, because we are preoccupied with the physical manifestation.

Another way of expressing Plato's Cave is to liken life to people at a movie theater who keep their eyes focused on the screen, believing the movie is real, and never bother to look behind them and see that the movie is just an image created by a projector. God is the Cosmic Projector, creating the universe from his 'first born' Son, the original vibration from which everything else is made and without which nothing is made. (See John I:1-5)

[GovernmentShrinker]

Just think about what’s hanging around in thin air in your immediate vicinity right this second. Hundreds of cell phone, radio, TV, and wireless internet signals, that are transmitting very real information and emotions, that are in turn having a very concrete effect on the world, and that fairly often take on a life of their own, having much different and greater effects than were intended by the people who (often in response to thoughts that arrived in their heads via this route) originally caused the signals to be created. Just think about someone living 200 years ago trying to wrap their minds around this, and what it would have sounded like to them.