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steak

1 posted on 02/12/2010 12:10:46 AM PST by Stoat
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To: Slings and Arrows

“Enjoy your steak” Ping.


2 posted on 02/12/2010 12:11:22 AM PST by Stoat (Sarah Palin 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat; shibumi

Vegetables, they are what food eats.


3 posted on 02/12/2010 12:23:34 AM PST by Semper Mark (Doesn't play well with others.)
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To: stainlessbanner; HungarianGypsy; quantim
Barbecue / food ping ;-)

steak

4 posted on 02/12/2010 12:34:15 AM PST by Stoat (Sarah Palin 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat

That looks so good.


5 posted on 02/12/2010 12:35:05 AM PST by Jemian
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To: Stoat
Thanks for posting. It's a fair article with some good points on both sides.

As a life long vegetarian I am looking past the steak at the tempting beans and rice in your pic. :)

6 posted on 02/12/2010 12:44:57 AM PST by SupplySider
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To: Stoat

7 posted on 02/12/2010 12:48:06 AM PST by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: Stoat
Vegetarians criticize people for eating "helpless animals".

But what could be more "helpless" than a plant?

8 posted on 02/12/2010 12:50:31 AM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Stoat

All I need to know about vegetarianism is what my friend described about trying to use a Port-A-Potty at a Grateful Dead concert.

[there *is* such a thing as too much fiber]


9 posted on 02/12/2010 12:51:01 AM PST by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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To: Stoat

Oh yea, this is one of the most important items that the US needs to address...geez. These crackpots and other idiots will continue to plow their way into the Earth while the world collapses... Please someone help me!

All of you that agree and sympathize with this article are just plain goofy.


10 posted on 02/12/2010 12:58:50 AM PST by Deagle
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To: Stoat
I already knew this


13 posted on 02/12/2010 1:14:45 AM PST by BBell
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To: All
More on this:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7023809.ece

Tofu can harm environment more than meat, finds WWF study

Becoming a vegetarian can do more harm to the environment than continuing to eat red meat, according to a study of the impacts of meat substitutes such as tofu.

The findings undermine claims by vegetarians that giving up meat automatically results in lower emissions and that less land is needed to produce food.

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15 posted on 02/12/2010 1:25:45 AM PST by Stoat (Sarah Palin 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat
A vegetarian at our table once was talking about how meat and livestock took such a toll on the environment and were so unkind to animals. I indicated the glass of wine she was drinking and asked her if she'd ever visited a vineyard. She answered that yes, she had.

I asked her if she'd considered what had been on those rolling hills before the vineyard was planted. Her face took on a bit of a blank look, and I explained: before the vineyard, those acres were home and a source of food to heaven knows how many critters -- deer, squirrels, mice, lizards, bobcats, coyotes, birds, jackrabbits, and so on. Once the land was cleared and cultivated, all those creatures were displaced.

I asked her about the broccoli on her plate, and if she ever gave much thought to all the water ecosystems disrupted or starved when water was diverted to irrigate those fields of broccoli -- which land, incidentally, also used to be home to all manner of critters before they were cleared and cultivated to grow the broccoli. I asked if she'd ever considered how many cups of broccoli she'd have to eat in order to get the same amount of calcium that I was getting from the single glass of milk that I was having with my own meal.

I asked her if she could name any byproducts from broccoli or vineyards. I pointed out that the critter from which my steak came from had also produced an enormous array of byproducts, such as leather; medicines; glues; bone marrow for gelatin used in everything from marshmallows to (in pre-digital camera days) film; tallow used for all kinds of things including the processing of steel; food for her beloved dog and cats; and chemicals used in such a huge variety of items that even if she never ate meat or wore leather, every day of her life she was a kid of meat eater. I reminded her that she and her kids depended on things made by the partial use of animal byproducts in either the item itself or in its manufacturing process -- the rubber in the tires on her car, the asphalt on the roads she drove, the industrial adhesives that were part of the construction of her home and the buildings where she worked, etc., etc. And I pointed out that in many cases, those animals grazed on open uncultivated land where trees, birds, jackrabbits, bobcats, coyotes, deer, lizards, and all kinds of other critters co-existed without being disturbed.

I could tell that she had never even considered such things, but to be fair, she'd always lived in urban areas and really had very little connection with the way things really work. A skyscraper and a bird's nest are just as "equal" in the big picture; the only REAL difference is that one was made by homo sapiens, and the other was made by birds. We're each as much a part of nature. She thinks that her philosophy puts her closer to nature; I think it alienates her from it.

16 posted on 02/12/2010 1:29:51 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Stoat
Vegetarians Are Evil
17 posted on 02/12/2010 1:33:16 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Stoat

Our EPA has “found” that growing any sort of food releases CO2. Actually they said that cultivating soil releases a whole lotta CO2. The best use of the earth according to EPA is growing trees.


21 posted on 02/12/2010 3:32:46 AM PST by finnsheep
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To: Stoat

First, it’s “AHHH! Global warming! Global warming! We’ve got to stop driving and running factories that make things! We’ve got reduce our carbon outputs! AHHHH!”

Then, it’s “AAAAH! We’re eating too much meat! We’ve got to eat veggies to reduce our carbon footprints! AAAH!”

Then, it’ll be “AHHHH! We can’t sustain our Earth because there’s too many people! Abort all the babies! No more births! AAAAAH!”

Then, that leads to “AAAAH! There’s still too many people! Kill off all the white Americans and Christians! AAAAAH!”

Ya gotta know...that’s where it’s leading....


26 posted on 02/12/2010 5:01:15 AM PST by hoagy62 (Obama: slowly sucking the positive attitude out of the US since 11-4-08)
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To: Stoat

All human life is dangerous to Gaia. So let’s kill everyone and leave a small, sustainable group of elites who will manage things until extraterrestrials arrive and set the planet right.

Of course, we’ll need some plebs to do manual labor and all that. So a twenty to one ratio of plebs to elites will be tolerated under a carefully monitored and controlled breeding/education system.

We can call it National Healthcare and Public Education.


27 posted on 02/12/2010 5:07:49 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Stoat; Andy'smom; bradactor; politicalwit; Spunky; mplsconservative; boadecelia; freeangel; ...

FOOD PING!!

Different people’s bodies may well need different things. Without the protein of cheese and meat (sorry, beans don’t work for me) you would be seeing me on the news for having murdered a whole lot of people.


31 posted on 02/12/2010 7:44:19 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Stoat

Why would any study commissioned by the WWF be considered newsworthy?


32 posted on 02/12/2010 7:50:26 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Stoat

OMG you mean vegetarians are the cause of Gorebull warming? *sarcasm*


39 posted on 02/12/2010 10:14:29 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Stoat

How can you post that? That’s just mean. ;-)


47 posted on 02/12/2010 2:46:44 PM PST by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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