Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

New groups mobilize as Indians embrace the right to bear arms (India)
WaPo ^ | 01/31/2010 | WaPo

Posted on 01/31/2010 6:40:20 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour

In the land of Mahatma Gandhi, Indian gun owners are coming out of the shadows for the first time to mobilize, U.S.-style, against proposed new curbs on bearing arms.

When gunmen attacked 10 sites in Mumbai in November 2008, including two five-star hotels and a train station, Mumbai resident Kumar Verma sat at home glued to the television, feeling outraged and unsafe.

Before the end of December, Verma and his friends had applied for gun licenses. He read up on India's gun laws and joined the Web forum Indians for Guns. When he got his license seven months later, he bought a black, secondhand, snub-nose Smith & Wesson revolver with a walnut grip.

"I feel safe wearing it in my ankle holster every day," said Verma, 27, who runs a family business selling fire-protection systems. "I have a right to self-protection, because random street crime and terrorism have increased. The police cannot be there for everybody all the time. Now I am a believer in the right to keep and bear arms."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; india; islam; lping; mumbai; rkba; wot
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-28 next last

1 posted on 01/31/2010 6:40:20 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: The Magical Mischief Tour

“Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest.” — Mahatma Gandhi

He may have striven for peace, but he was no idiot.


2 posted on 01/31/2010 6:43:40 PM PST by FLAMING DEATH (Are you better off than you were $4 trillion ago?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FLAMING DEATH
"He may have striven for peace, but he was no idiot."

Most intelligent people strive for peace; they simply understand the difference between true peace and subservience.

3 posted on 01/31/2010 6:46:09 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: FLAMING DEATH

India has the potential for a very bright future and seems to be on a steady course towards same. I wish I could say the same for America.


4 posted on 01/31/2010 6:49:00 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: The Magical Mischief Tour

10 terrorist attackers, no matter how “heavily armed,” won’t get far if 1000 pissed-off locals immediately return fire on their position.

Admittedly, this is likely to result in a number of locals being hit by not particularly well aimed friendly fire, but that’s a whole lot better than what happened in Bombay.


5 posted on 01/31/2010 6:51:39 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Never confuse schooling with education.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Good.


6 posted on 01/31/2010 6:52:03 PM PST by sig226 (Bring back Jimmy Carter!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Joe 6-pack

Why do you think Colt called it the “Peacemaker”?


7 posted on 01/31/2010 6:57:18 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Ah, the spark of Liberty.


8 posted on 01/31/2010 7:04:42 PM PST by Mariner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All

“When he got his license seven months later . . . “

My Tennessee handgun carry permit arrived in the mail six weeks after I applied!!!


9 posted on 01/31/2010 7:09:09 PM PST by Pelagius of Asturias
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Pelagius of Asturias
My Tennessee handgun carry permit arrived in the mail six weeks after I applied!!!

In Alaska you can buy a handgun today and start carrying it concealed immediately, no permit or license required.

10 posted on 01/31/2010 7:14:27 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: The Magical Mischief Tour

BTTT


11 posted on 01/31/2010 8:04:40 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FLAMING DEATH
I have read his biography (LONG time ago), and I believe he stated that it would be better to fight evil with arms than to simply capitulate to it. Also, he conceived of Satyagraha, not as pacifism, but as a new means of warfare. IMO, Ghandi was one of history's great generals.

OTOH, Ghandi made what are, to me, some idiotic statements like advising Jews, during Hitler's reign, to jump off of cliffs rather than submit to the Nazi roundup.

12 posted on 01/31/2010 8:06:07 PM PST by ARepublicanForAllReasons (Give 'em hell, Sarah!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Good for them, freedom should be a common goal for all men!


13 posted on 01/31/2010 8:06:10 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Meanwhile, Britain rushed new legislation to ban butter knives, and outlaw concealed carrying of toothpicks:

Restaurant outlaws the ‘dangerous’ dental sticks

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1245019/Restaurant-refuses-diner-toothpick-dangerous.html

Retired deputy headteacher John Freeman had enjoyed a three-course meal at the Macdonald Portal Golf and Spa Hotel when he realised he had a piece of rib- eye steak stuck between teeth.
But when Mr Freeman asked the waiter for assistance, he was astonished by the response.
‘He apologised but said he was not allowed to give me a toothpick for health and safety reasons,’ said the 63-year-old. ‘I asked him if he was joking, but he said it wasn’t April 1 and there weren’t any in the hotel.
‘I told him it was nonsense and asked to speak to the manager for an explanation, indicating there were 14 very dangerous metal knives and forks on my table that had been unsupervised for at least two hours.
‘The manager agreed it was ludicrous, but assured me there had been a directive from head office not to provide toothpicks because they are potentially dangerous.’


14 posted on 01/31/2010 8:25:24 PM PST by James C. Bennett
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Arms for Manipur villagers to keep insurgents at bay

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/arms-for-manipur-villagers-to-keep-insurgents-at-bay_10044996.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2020355/posts

Imphal, INDIA. May 4 (IANS) Authorities in Manipur, one of northeast India’s worst insurgency-hit states, have decided to arm villagers with weapons to enable them protect themselves from militants and control rebel activities, officials said Sunday. “The state cabinet has decided to train up to 500 villagers in the districts of Thoubal and Imphal West and provide them weapons after local residents rose in revolt against excesses committed by armed militants who have been killing civilians and extorting cash,” said Manipur Irrigation and Flood Control Minister N. Biren.

A militant group March 24 killed three people - two teenaged girls and a boy - at Heirok village, and later killed another man at Chajing. Following these incidents, villagers rose in revolt and pressed the government to give them weapons.

To start with, 300 men from Heirok and 200 from Chajing villages would be recruited, given a month’s training on handling weapons and will be provided with .303 rifles. They will also be paid a monthly consolidated salary of Rs.3,000 each.

The new force, whose personnel shall be called ’special police officers’, would be in place from the middle of June.

Manipur, bordering Myanmar (Burma), has over two dozen active rebel groups pushing demands ranging from secession from India to maximum autonomy.

No insurgent group from Manipur is engaged in peace talks with the Indian government so far, although around six rag-tag Kuki ethnic rebel outfits are on a ceasefire with the authorities.

The decision to provide weapons to civilians has drawn criticism from civil society and rights groups.

“The move will encourage bloodshed in Manipur among people of the same ethnic origin,” said a statement by the United Committee Manipur (UCM), a civil society combine.

More than 10,000 people have been killed in insurgency-related violence in Manipur during the past decade.


State Cabinet says yes to armed community policing for two localities; 500 hand-picked volunteers to form first batch

The Imphal Free Press

http://www.kanglaonline.com/index.php?template=headline&newsid=41979&typeid=1

IMPHAL, May 2, 2008: A new system of policing allowing people to protect themselves from attacks and extortions carried out by militants was discussed and okayed at a Cabinet meeting under the chair of the state chief minister, O Ibobi Singh on Friday, an official source said.

Earlier in the day, two top officials of the Union ministry of home affairs arrived in the state capital and started assessment of the law and order situation once again.

A source said as per the Cabinet decision two units of security posts under the control of newly designated Special Police Officers will be set up at the earliest, within June this year, at Heirok and Lilong Chajing where locals are protesting against killing of local men by militants in recent times.

The Cabinet agreed to select 500 local volunteers, 300 from Heirok in Thoubal district and 200 from Lilong Chajing, and impart training on the use of weapons and techniques to protect themselves from the militants. They will be deployed in their respective localities with the weapons supplied by the state government under the control of the special police officer unit.

The volunteers will be given a stipend of Rs. 3000 per month, the source said.

The decision was taken after the Cabinet thoroughly discussed the situation arising out of the revolt by the two localities against the militants and considering their demands for supply of weapons, the source said.

Apart from approving the establishment of two units of Special Police Officers, one each at Heirok and Lilong Chajing, the Cabinet further approved to conduct recruitment of 300 volunteers from Heirok and 200 for Lilong Chajing and Shantipur.

The selection of the volunteers from their respective villages will be done through the deputy commissioner concerned.

The selection of volunteers and other necessary processes will be completed within June this year and selected candidates will be given special training under the sponsorship of the state police department.

They will be armed with .303 rifles and other weapons for use in safeguarding the locals from militant attacks.

The official source further said that the functioning of the SPO would be under the supervision of the concerned district superintendent of police.

Mention may be made that residents of Heirok and Lilong Chajing are presently confronting the militants after militants shot dead local people recently. They are pressing the state government for provision of weapons to protect themselves from the armed militants.

Angered by the killing of three local youths including two teenage girls and a boy in indiscriminate firing on the night of March 24 by cadres of a militant group and severe injuries to another girl, the people of Heirok have banned the underground groups and are demanding the state government supply weapons to them.

In a similar manner, after the killing of a man in front of his son at Lilong Chajing on the night of April 23, the locals of Lilong Chajing and Shantipur are also opposing the militants and also demanding licenced guns to face the militants.

On the other hand, the chief minister during separate meetings held earlier with the locals of Heirok and Lilong Chajing gave his assurance to fulfill the demands of the respective villages.

He also assured to provide licenced arms to protect the respective villages from any militant actions and to keep the areas as secured zones.

The Cabinet decision was believed to be a follow up of his assurance today, the source said.

In the meantime, two officials of the Union ministry of home affairs, MB Kaushal, advisor north east and Naveen Verma, joint secretary (north east) who arrived at the state capital held a meeting with the top officials of the state home department on the law and order front of the state as a part of the action taken report after the visit of a high level team led by the Union cabinet secretary to the state.

The meeting with state chief secretary, Jarnail Singh and DGP, Y Joykumar also part of the state official team was held inside the Kangla fort after the two officials of the MHA attended a meeting of the Kangla Board in the office of the state chief minister today at around 2 pm.

The state DGP also called on the visiting officials and discussed the follow up action on the decision taken regarding media management in the meeting held with the Union cabinet secretary on April 26.

The two officials will also attend a meeting of the Strategy and Operational Group, SOG tomorrow at the old secretariat building, the source said.



15 posted on 01/31/2010 8:25:24 PM PST by James C. Bennett
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ARepublicanForAllReasons

They would have at least died with dignity jumping off cliffs.


16 posted on 01/31/2010 8:54:10 PM PST by TypeZoNegative (Pro life & Vegan because I respect all life, Republican because our enemies don't respect ours.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...
It's always inspiring to watch how others exercise their newly (re)discovered rights in other parts of the world, once common sense returns to their society.



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!
View past Libertarian pings here
17 posted on 01/31/2010 10:06:44 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

BUMP

You’ll like this one.


18 posted on 01/31/2010 10:07:15 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AlaskaErik

What’s the crime rate in Alaska like, just out of curiosity?


19 posted on 01/31/2010 10:16:22 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: TypeZoNegative

That’s a good point.


20 posted on 01/31/2010 10:27:07 PM PST by ARepublicanForAllReasons (Give 'em hell, Sarah!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-28 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson