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U.S. Jews and Latinos form unlikely bond over immigration policy
The Forward ^ | January 27, 2010 | Nathan Guttman

Posted on 01/31/2010 1:15:48 PM PST by ruination

Even as health care reform twists in the wind, immigration policy looms as the next big political debate — and Hispanics and Jews are moving to the forefront in a burgeoning political alliance.

The next three months are seen as critical in the fight for immigration reform, but the weakening of the Democrats’ grip on Congress with the recent loss of a key Massachusetts Senate seat does not bode well for the passage of reform legislation.

The Jewish-Latino alliance on immigration issues builds on the heritage and experience of the Jewish community and on the enthusiasm and urgent needs of the Hispanic community, which has a strong interest in issues of family unification and the status of the some 12 million illegal immigrants, most of them from Latin America.

But Jewish activists also see the joint work as an opening for cooperation with the Hispanic community on other issues, such as Israel.

“If we want to engage with the Latino community on issues that are of concern for us, including Israel, we need to engage on issues that bother their community,” said Gideon Aronoff, president and CEO of the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society. “We want to create growing bonds with the Latino community, and we cannot create these bonds if we are indifferent to the issues that are of concern to them.”

Some advocates view the ethnic backgrounds of the two key lawmakers leading the drive for immigration reform as symbolic of the growing alliance on the issue. In the House, the main immigration reform bill was presented Rep. Luis Gutierrez, an Illinois Democrat, and in the Senate it is expected that New York’s Senator Charles Schumer will soon present his version of immigration reform legislation.

The Gutierrez bill has been praised by advocates for immigrants as providing answers to most of the concerns of the Hispanic community, but so far it has failed to gain any Republican support.

Schumer’s bill, now in the making, is expected to have more bipartisan appeal, by taking a nuanced approach to the thorny issue of providing a path to legalization for millions of illegal immigrants.

While Democratic-backed health care reform legislation was uniformly opposed by Republicans and now seems to be stuck in Congress, advocates agree that immigration reform stands no chance of passage without bipartisan support.

But immigration advocates believe that the blow suffered by health care reform supporters following the Massachusetts Senate election does not necessarily dictate the same fate for immigration reform. Indeed, said HIAS’s Aronoff, it might even help the cause, due to increased pressure on lawmakers to show progress on key issues. “All Americans have seen the gridlock in Washington and are very frustrated with it,” he said. “Now the president and Congress need to show that they can solve problems for Americans.”

But with the political clock ticking, supporters of reform fear that major legislation is becoming harder to pass, and so they set the first half of 2010 as a desired deadline for passing legislation. “Every day we get closer to the elections, the harder it becomes,” said Richard Foltin, director of national and legislative affairs at the American Jewish Committee, referring to upcoming congressional elections.

Jewish communal support for immigration reform is organized around several principles, including the need for a path to legalization for illegal immigrants; a mechanism for dealing with future immigration waves; speeding up work on family unification; integrating new immigrants into American society; and finding, as Jewish immigration advocates put it, an “effective and humane” way of enforcing immigration laws and border control.

This last point seems to be a growing concern within the Jewish community, said Jane Ramsey, executive director of the Jewish Council on Urban Affairs based in Chicago. Ramsey, whose organization has been working closely with Hispanic groups, stressed that while both communities strongly support immigration reform, there is still a need to instill in members of the Jewish community the importance of the issue, which for most Jews carries a symbolic, not personal, importance.

“Our community is one step removed,” she said, “and therefore it is very important to make it real for people by interacting with the Latino community.”

While the Jewish organizational world is essentially united on this issue, some have argued that the Jewish rank-and-file is not on entirely the same page as communal leaders.

The supposed divide between religious leaders of various stripes and their rank-and-file was the focus of a recent survey, sponsored by the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington-based group that opposes granting illegal immigrants a path to legalization and instead argues that many will return to their home countries if immigration laws are better enforced. That poll, which was conducted online by Zogby International in December, found that Jews were roughly equally divided between those who prefer a stepped-up enforcement approach and those who prefer granting legal status with a path to citizenship.

Jewish immigration advocates have questioned the survey’s methodology, but they agree that there are diverse opinions within the community. Yet the CIS poll also found that Jews were still considerably more likely than members of other religious groups to support granting legal status to illegal immigrants, a finding that immigration advocates say rings true.

The organized Jewish community is more committed than ever to immigration reform. A letter supporting immigration reform, which will be sent out to all Senate offices in early February, was signed by dozens of national Jewish organizations.

Joining forces with the Hispanic community has been a longstanding goal for Jewish groups. But what seems to be a rare chance to reform immigration laws has helped galvanize the relationship.

At a January 10 roundtable in Durham, N.C., Jewish and Latino activists shared their immigration experiences and looked for ways to work together in support of the legislation. “We broke into groups and spoke about the similarity between our grandparents’ immigration and their experience nowadays,” said Stephanie Grosser, who has been coordinating outreach efforts for HIAS.

One of the issues activists from both sides discussed was hate and hostility directed at immigrants — both past and present-day, whether they were Jewish newcomers at the turn of the 20th century or Latinos in recent decades. “After we talked about why the Jewish community cares about immigration, two Latino women from the crowd came up and hugged me,” Grosser recalled.

Cooperation between the two communities goes beyond the issue of immigration reform and includes many joint programs on the local level. On the national level, Jewish and Latino groups are part of broader coalitions organizing a Washington rally in March in favor of immigration reform, which will be preceded by advocacy work in congressional districts during the February congressional recess.

Jewish groups bring to the table their experience and well-established network of political contacts, a contribution highly appreciated by Hispanic organizers.

“For us, as newcomers to the society, this experience is extraordinary,” said Gutavo Torres, president of Casa Maryland, a Hispanic group active in the metropolitan Washington area. “They know how to work through the system, how to lobby, how to advocate. The Jewish community has a lot of experience and a lot of power.”

Jewish organizations have been increasing their efforts to reach out to the Hispanic community for several years, and most national groups have established joint programs and sponsored Jewish-Hispanic events. With the rapid growth of the Hispanic community and with its rising political clout, Jewish groups see added value in building bridges to the community.

“We are working on immigration, because it is the right thing to do, because it is part of our values,” said the AJC’s Foltin. “But the dialogue also creates better understanding for the needs of our community.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: agenda; aliens; amnesty; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; israel; jewishvote; latinovote; quislings; squattersupportsquad
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The idea here seems to be to have Jews team up with pro-illegal alien activists to get amnesty passed so that the former can get help from Hispanics in influencing U.S. policy in ways that are beneficial to Israel. Sounds treasonous.
1 posted on 01/31/2010 1:15:50 PM PST by ruination
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To: ruination

Jewish commies.


2 posted on 01/31/2010 1:18:22 PM PST by boomop1
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To: ruination

Not treasonous, but perhaps irrational.


3 posted on 01/31/2010 1:19:00 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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Leftist nonsense from The Forward. The U.S. has the same rights to regulate ita borders as any other nation. It’s not anti-immigration or anti-Mexican to do so. Political expediency isn’t a good reason to abandon control over your borders.


4 posted on 01/31/2010 1:21:21 PM PST by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: ruination

How to bankrupt America.


5 posted on 01/31/2010 1:21:33 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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The Forward...

A publication for jews that plays stereotypical eastern european jewish ghetto music in their radio ads, then asks if anti-semitism is on the rise.
6 posted on 01/31/2010 1:24:49 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: ruination

Looking at bible history, one can see that a symbiosis between Jews and gentiles is not a very stable entity. In this situation they both ought to recognize they would be using one another and that it could go to hell in a handbasket quicker than they think. Particularly, I wonder how friendly the quasi-Catholic, quasi-pagan backgrounds of many Latinos really are towards the Jews.


7 posted on 01/31/2010 1:25:35 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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But Jewish activists also see the joint work as an opening for cooperation with the Hispanic community on other issues, such as Israel.

Mexico has a history of supporting the Palestinian Authority. I guess the Jews are blind too.

8 posted on 01/31/2010 1:28:40 PM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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Stupid Jews, trying to destroy America. Again. Hardly a day goes by.

10 posted on 01/31/2010 1:35:29 PM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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This is an example of O'Sullivan's first law: "All organizations that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing."

Of course it refers chiefly to non-profits. For-profit corporations have their own clear agenda, though over time some of them do tend to lean left where their own profits aren't concerned.

And it also has to do with being at the center of cultural trends. A Croatian-American or Serbian-American organization is going to follow its own agenda narrowly defined by the interests of Croatian-Americans or Serbian-Americans. But a group like the Episcopalians is going to follow broader cultural trends leftward.

We know that Jewish organizations pushed for looser immigration laws in the 1960s because of what happened in the 1930s, so that forms part of the background, but mainstream Catholic and Protestant groups follow the same liberal Zeitgeist as today's Jewish organizations.

11 posted on 01/31/2010 1:37:12 PM PST by x
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It does guys, can’t trust those stinkin Jew traitors. They’re as bad as the brown Catholics.

That's a peculiar reaction. Are you saying that the activities of these groups is somehow excusable because of who they are? To call them out is to be anti-semitic? Or did I completely misunderstand your comments?
12 posted on 01/31/2010 1:45:28 PM PST by ruination
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But Jewish activists also see the joint work as an opening for cooperation with the Hispanic community on other issues, such as Israel.

Mexico has a history of supporting the Palestinian Authority. I guess the Jews are blind too.


Opposing Israel is a staple of modern leftist ideology (i. e. liberalism) - an ideology to which at least 70% of American Jews subscribe. It's not too hard to find liberal Israelis who exhibit the same bad judgement.

I was going to say "Jewish by birth, liberal by choice", but when you think about it, is there any liberal that doesn't crap on their religion/culture/heritage/country/etc/etc in practicing their beliefs?

How many tenants of Catholicism do hispanics toss aside when they cast their lot with liberals?

Bottom line, it should not surprise us.
13 posted on 01/31/2010 1:52:20 PM PST by msg-84 (Semper Fidelis)
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To: ruination

Real reason?

Just like their gentile Chamber of Commerce brothers and Hindi motel owners, Jewish businessmen want cheap immigrant labor to increase the bottom line.

There is no honor among these ecumenical thieves who will violate any laws and bribe any politician to fatten their wallets.


14 posted on 01/31/2010 1:55:05 PM PST by oldbill
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To: ruination

here in L.A. I work for rich Jews as a consultant and sometimes they confide in me over drinks what they really think of mexicans...

Overall, this will sound racist but from what they have told me they look at them as cheap slaves.


16 posted on 01/31/2010 1:57:58 PM PST by max americana
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Most American Jews are certifiably, 99 and 44/100% free of all forms of common sense. They have disdain for the conservative Christians who support Israel strongly, and are trying to make deals with Hispanics who do not support Israel, and whose immigration activist groups are some of the most anti-semitic around.

Some probably actually do believe that supporting amnesty will win them lots of new friends and allies.

17 posted on 01/31/2010 1:59:11 PM PST by Will88
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Gud points. Hadn’t looked at it quite that way.


18 posted on 01/31/2010 2:01:00 PM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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Try crossing the border illegally and getting a job in Israel.

It's about Democrats and consolidating the LEFT in the US.

19 posted on 01/31/2010 2:03:38 PM PST by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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You’ve got a great nose there, msg


20 posted on 01/31/2010 2:08:09 PM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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