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Genome Study Provides a Census of Early Humans
NY Times (Science Times) ^ | January 18, 2010 | NICHOLAS WADE

Posted on 01/19/2010 4:21:03 AM PST by Pharmboy

From the composition of just two human genomes, geneticists have computed the size of the human population 1.2 million years ago from which everyone in the world is descended.

They put the number at 18,500 people, but this refers only to breeding individuals, the “effective” population. The actual population would have been about three times as large, or 55,500.

Comparable estimates for other primates then are 21,000 for chimpanzees and 25,000 for gorillas. In biological terms, it seems, humans were not a very successful species, and the strategy of investing in larger brains than those of their fellow apes had not yet produced any big payoff. Human population numbers did not reach high levels until after the advent of agriculture.

Geneticists have long known that the ancestors of modern humans numbered as few as 10,000 at some time in the last 100,000 years. The critically low number suggested that some catastrophe, like disease or climate change induced by a volcano, had brought humans close to the brink of extinction.

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KEYWORDS: catastrophism; godsgravesglyphs; humanevolution
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1 posted on 01/19/2010 4:21:03 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: SunkenCiv; blam; martin_fierro; decimon; thefactor
I don't think ACORN did this census ping...
2 posted on 01/19/2010 4:22:49 AM PST by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: Pharmboy

like disease or climate change induced by ....

the invention of fire, of course.


3 posted on 01/19/2010 4:32:21 AM PST by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09! WTFU!)
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To: Pharmboy
Thanks for a very rare science thread.
It'll get moved to general chat to die shortly.
4 posted on 01/19/2010 4:33:30 AM PST by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: Pharmboy

wow! that’s not a lot of people!


5 posted on 01/19/2010 4:38:42 AM PST by blueplum
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To: Pharmboy
If you look at early human tools our more distant ancestors had very little with which to survive with, so their numbers should of been low. It is hard to hunt and fend off predators with a sharp hand held rock. The bottleneck in human ancestry seems to indicate that we almost became extinct at one time.
6 posted on 01/19/2010 4:40:34 AM PST by dog breath
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"...the strategy of investing in larger brains than those of their fellow apes..."
They just state that so matter-of-factly one could easily confuse that theory for proven scientific fact.

"...modern humans numbered as few as 10,000 at some time in the last 100,000 years. The critically low number suggested that some catastrophe, like ...climate change.... had brought humans close to the brink of extinction.
Hmmm, standard Global Warming alarmist boiler-plate - don't journalists think for themselves anymore?

7 posted on 01/19/2010 4:46:51 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73

Yep...I winced at the latter also.


8 posted on 01/19/2010 4:55:52 AM PST by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: Pharmboy

Just think of the tons and tons of coal those 10000 people had to burn to induce climate change.


9 posted on 01/19/2010 5:05:59 AM PST by Flathead Catfisherman
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To: Flathead Catfisherman

Yes, their spear and loincloth factories must have run 24/7 nonstop!


10 posted on 01/19/2010 5:13:16 AM PST by I Buried My Guns
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To: Psalm 73

No, that’s not GW boilerplate. That’s a fact.. About 70,000 years ago, the Toba volcano erupted in the largest volcanic eruption presently known. It ejected 550 CUBIC KILOMETERS of rock into the air. It extinguished virtually all human life east of India, and most of Africa and the Middle East. Estimates that are pretty rock solid indicate that the human population of the Earth was reduced to less thaan 10,000 individuals, perhaps fewer than 5,000.

No joke. And this was not that long ago in geological terms. Much the same thing could happen again if the Yellowstone caldera goes up.


11 posted on 01/19/2010 5:15:02 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: Pharmboy
..... the strategy of investing in larger brains than those of their fellow apes had not yet produced any big payoff.

Ah! A Financial Report on the NY Times.
How nice of them to make it public.

12 posted on 01/19/2010 5:26:59 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A. Einstein])
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To: Psalm 73
"...the strategy of investing in larger brains than those of their fellow apes had not yet produced any big payoff...."

*** Hmmm, standard Global Warming alarmist boiler-plate - don't journalists think for themselves anymore? ***

No. This is not about 'Globular Warming'.(sic)

It's a Financial Report on the NY Times.

;-)

13 posted on 01/19/2010 5:32:20 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A. Einstein])
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The Supervolcano Toba effectively culled the herd and only the strongest survived. We would be hit harder if it happened today.


14 posted on 01/19/2010 5:56:40 AM PST by ohioman
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You sir are correct. The Toba eruption was similar in size to the largest Yellowstone eruption. (i.e. not a good thing for anything that wants to live)


15 posted on 01/19/2010 5:58:36 AM PST by ohioman
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Hi, cuz!

And this shows me that 130 years of keeping records of earth temperatures does not make a complete record. Would have to go back millions of years, with minute detail.


16 posted on 01/19/2010 6:01:11 AM PST by buffyt (Glowbull Warming: The Greatest Hoax Since Y 2 K ! Follow the money$ Coldest winter in years.)
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To: blueplum

But then all the illegals arrived there and the population tripled over night.


17 posted on 01/19/2010 6:01:47 AM PST by buffyt (Glowbull Warming: The Greatest Hoax Since Y 2 K ! Follow the money$ Coldest winter in years.)
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To: Flathead Catfisherman

I think you are wrong, I think it was their SUVs~


18 posted on 01/19/2010 6:02:55 AM PST by buffyt (Glowbull Warming: The Greatest Hoax Since Y 2 K ! Follow the money$ Coldest winter in years.)
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To: John Valentine
Indeed, but the other poster and I, I believe, were responding to the manner in which the language was used in order to relate it to anthropogenic global warming. I know I am sensitive to that...and with good reason.

Thanks for your adding to this thread...good data.

19 posted on 01/19/2010 6:12:24 AM PST by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: Pharmboy

ping


20 posted on 01/19/2010 6:14:11 AM PST by Archie Bunker on steroids (Mugabi will look like Reagan when this thing is over with)
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