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1 posted on 12/17/2009 5:32:23 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Current Temperature in Cophenhagen (last reading taken at 0220 hrs local time) is 28F.


2 posted on 12/17/2009 5:35:52 PM PST by Signalman
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Pay close attention ... it’s very rare that a president of the US will endorse a known fraud ... Watch carefully, the future campaign ads are being made tomorrow.

Howard Dean already did the perfect set for government death care, so Obama may make his own ads for 2012 ... By then the fraud will be well understood by all.


3 posted on 12/17/2009 5:35:58 PM PST by Tarpon ( ...)
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Goracle and OblamaBush...criminals...period.


4 posted on 12/17/2009 5:38:26 PM PST by surfer
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I didn’t give much of a care that the Kenyan Klod corrupted politics beyond imagination. I expected as much from a Chicago crook.

However, when my cherished science is corrupted, I’m ticked. Science is for grownups. Politics is for the has beens.

These “scientists” should be shunned, fired, tarred, and feathered. The carcasses should be launched into the sun.

Or better yet, force them to gain an academic major more tuned to their intellect: Womyn’s studies

Tomorrow.


6 posted on 12/17/2009 5:53:09 PM PST by Da Coyote
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This was an excellent article by Renew America. As I was at their site I looked through some other editorials ... all are excellent quality like this one. A solid bookmark!
The Patriot's Flag
8 posted on 12/17/2009 5:57:33 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (http://www.thepatriotsflag.com - The Patriot's Flag)
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No American President should participate in such a naked display of contempt for capitalism unless of course he shares it.

Obama will be there with his ilk, the Mugabes and Chavezes and the Ahmandinijad's of the world. Birds of a feather.

10 posted on 12/17/2009 6:01:30 PM PST by highlander_UW (To anger a conservative tell him a lie. To anger a liberal tell him the truth.)
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Informed, commonsense Americans understand that global warming and global cooling have been ongoing events throughout the Earth's history. The question is, whether anthropogenic global warming is a major factor, a minor factor, or a non-factor.

Bill Gray is a long time anthropogenic global warming skeptic and someone that many people highly respect.

"This small warming is likely a result of the natural alterations in global ocean currents which are driven by ocean salinity variations. Ocean circulation variations are as yet little understood. Human kind has little or nothing to do with the recent temperature changes. We are not that influential." "I am of the opinion that [global warming] is one of the greatest hoaxes ever perpetrated on the American people." "So many people have a vested interest in this global-warming thing—all these big labs and research and stuff. The idea is to frighten the public, to get money to study it more."

Bill Gray is Emeritus Professor of Atmospheric Science at Colorado University. He has a PhD in Geophysics, is an expert in climatology, head of the Tropical Meteorology Project at CSU, served as a weather forecaster for the US Air Force and is a research assistant in the University of Chicago Department of Meteorology.

11 posted on 12/17/2009 6:10:44 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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12 posted on 12/17/2009 6:36:56 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts....)
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The OLD media are nothing more than a whole lot of parrots in a echo chamber. Yes you can quote me on that.


13 posted on 12/17/2009 6:47:28 PM PST by ully2 (ully)
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If President Bush used as many lies to invade Iraq as Zer0 uses to limit CO2 he would have been impeached.
15 posted on 12/17/2009 7:35:24 PM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Marxism.)
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I think Joe Wilson agrees with this assessment.


16 posted on 12/17/2009 7:43:42 PM PST by xp38
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
It was a lie from the first moment a scientist like James Hansen told Congress on June 23, 1988 that the planet was going to be roasted by greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and it was a lie when Al Gore wrote "Earth in the Balance" and there were still more lies in his Oscar-winning documentary, "An Inconvenient Truth." A British court banned the documentary from being shown in their schools unless a long list of disclaimers was read to the students before his lies were inflicted on them. American students were not so fortunate.
Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
17 posted on 12/17/2009 8:00:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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listen... warming, cooling, it was 50/50. so i took a shot!!!

Ohh WOE is me... whys everybody pickin on me???

18 posted on 12/17/2009 8:11:37 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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Henceforth...All yourz moneys is belong to us.

The Ugandan attorney added the henceforth legal language in there.


20 posted on 12/17/2009 8:47:33 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Beware of the Socialist Government-Academia Grant Junkie-Rich "non-profit"-Liberal Media Complex)
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Good article.


21 posted on 12/17/2009 9:04:57 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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Very good article. The lie is the weapon used most often by the criminal.

Get them on the stand, under oath. What “no controlling legal authority”?

Who will protect us from our protectors?


23 posted on 12/18/2009 6:54:14 AM PST by PGalt
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Billions were wasted on "climate research" over the past twenty years and now they are being wasted on "clean energy" research which we're told is needed to replace "dirty" fuels like coal, oil and [even!] natural gas. It too is all a lie.

. . . By itself, the Big Lie cannot exist solely in a political framework like the United Nations or any one of the nations, including our own, that wasted billions based on it. It has to have the support of the media, both our own and those around the world.

Journalists are not scientists and they are subject to what scientists tell them unless they do some fairly easy investigation of their own. They didn't!

. . . The true science, not the stuff conjured up on computer models, always refuted the global warming theory. That's because it was widely known to honest climatologists, meteorologists, and others. It was always known that carbon dioxide (CO2) was a miniscule part of the Earth's atmosphere, barely 0.038 percent. Of that amount, man-made CO2 emissions constitute less than 0.00022 percent! Some will argue these figures, but they always remain within these very tiny parameters.

. . . At the heart of the Big Lie is, of course, MONEY! There are millions to be made selling bogus "carbon credits" for the use of energy. That's what Obama's "Cap-and-Trade" scam is all about.

. . . Instead [of doing a rudimentary investigation of their own], journalists at influential newspapers like The New York Times repeated and amplified every global warming lie and they continue to this day.

The point, surely, is that no big lie can possibly exist without the complicity of journalism - and the fact is that, in historical terms, big lies are actually a commonplace. We have all seen big lies, fairly recently. A fairly minor one, in terms of total impact on society, is the March 13, 2006 "rape" of Crystal Mangum. The publicly available information fairly screamed that "the media" were conducting a kangaroo court - but even after the April 11, 2007, declaration by North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper that the three players not only couldn't be proven guilty but actually were innocent, the media admitted to no shame at having promoted a fraud for almost a year.

The fact that it is a commonplace for journalism to promote fraud indicates a systemic failure of accountability within "the press." It will be asked, "Don't you believe in freedom of the press?" And I reply, "Yes - I think we should try it again." Prior to the 1848 founding of the Associated Press, newspapers were mostly weeklies which, lacking a font of news from distant sites to which only printers were privy, were as much about the opinions of the individual printers as they were about news. The opinions of the printers were naturally diverse, so the various printers held each other accountable.

The serpent in this garden of Eden was the association of those printers via the mechanism of the AP. Members of the AP paid handsomely for the cornucopia of news gushing from "the wire," and they had to have value from it. To obtain the benefit of "the wire," they had to promote the wire - they needed their customers to believe the stories they got from it. Suddenly, then, all journalists - not just the employees of the newspaper you were reading, but all journalists - were presented as being "objective." But the price of any serious attempt at objectivity is to have the humility to scrutinize one's own motives. In that respect, "objective journalism" doesn't even seriously try to be objective. Why should it do so, when it is a unified entity which has no effective competition? Why shouldn't it perpetrate "big lies" whenever that suits its convenience?

According to 4 Advances that Set News Back, SCOTUS in 1945 held that the AP was a monopoly in violation of the Sherman Antitrust Act. In 1945 it was difficult to see how the country would do without the AP newswire. In the twenty first century Internet era, the idea that the data transmission bandwidth economies of the AP make it "too big to fail" is ludicrous. However, merely breaking the AP up in some way would not change the actual problem. The actual problem is the public's belief in the objectivity of journalism. That belief, the result of a century and a half of propaganda, is by now a cultural phenomenon.

That belief could easily outlive the AP. After all, AP journalism no longer enjoys the monopoly on propaganda media which it once enjoyed. Not only are web sites like FR accessible to the entire literate population, there are radio programs like Rush Limbaugh's which are entertaining and don't even require the ability to read to enjoy them. And yet the cultural memory of the "objective journalism" propaganda looms over the public discourse. The conceit of journalistic objectivity must be reduced to an object of ridicule, a byword for fraud. How that is to be done, other than by the methods we are already trying, is a puzzlement.


24 posted on 12/18/2009 2:24:16 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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