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1 posted on 12/09/2009 10:57:26 PM PST by neverdem
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2 posted on 12/09/2009 11:03:38 PM PST by kabar
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Bookmarked - However, I don't think the GOP is capable of really understanding what is going on, much less the Democrat’s!
3 posted on 12/09/2009 11:09:38 PM PST by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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4 posted on 12/09/2009 11:15:28 PM PST by nutmeg (Rush Limbaugh & Sarah Palin agree: NO third parties! Take back the GOP)
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To: neverdem

“It could be the downfall of Republican leaders”

It better be.


5 posted on 12/09/2009 11:16:44 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: neverdem

Hopefully the tea parties will pull the Republican party to the right filtering out the Dedes and Arlens and subsequently the Republican party will trash the Democrats in the next election.


6 posted on 12/09/2009 11:21:53 PM PST by Dragonspirit (Always remember President Token won only by defecting on his CFR pledge.)
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Of course, Richard Viguerie’s intent is to co-opt the Tea Party movement into a Third party to defeat the Republican party.

He literally dreads the emergence of a revived, CONSERVATIVE Republican party.

Don’t believe me? Look back to 1976. Ronald Reagan’s challenge to sitting president Gerald Ford was not good enough for Richard Viguerie, who mounted his own Third Party run again Ford.

Richard Viguerie backed the failed presidential aspirations of Ron Paul. Richard Viguerie is a Third Party man all the way.

So while he laments CONSERVATIVES like Mark Levin and dares to use the words of Ronald Reagan against Republicans, he cares not a thing about CONSERVATIVES who wear the Republican banner, only about defeating their party, as if that advances his own.


7 posted on 12/09/2009 11:22:29 PM PST by onyx
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To: neverdem
Yep. A lot of us are leaving the old reach across the aisle and get our hand spit on party. Time to leave the pantywaist Lindsy Grahams, Newts, yes and even Steele behind and get us some back bone and substance. Right now Sarah is the big star but there are a few others out there that believe in Conservative Values. I'll tell you who is OUT: McCain, Graham, the Huck, Newt and Romney. Looking for new blood who don't think like politicians.
9 posted on 12/09/2009 11:28:21 PM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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Let’s be honest here. The leadership of our current “two party system” has, over the years, been fully co-opted by two groups of predominantly inherited millionaires, one claiming to help the poor, the other claiming to help the middle class, but neither actually concerned with doing more than ensuring their own privileged positions and power remains predominant.

Young charismatic upstart leaders in either party are either seduced and co-opted themselves (like Obama) or shunned and ignored (like Sarah). The Tea Party movement itself scares the holy living HELL out of the entrenched millionaires currently running both parties because at the top levels, their ideological differences are secondary to their primary interest, which is themselves and their own privileged position in the system.

If the Tea Party movement and politicians like Sarah succeed in prying the Conservatives loose from the Republican establishment, it will shock the nation down to its very foundations and just might possibly restore our constitutional republic to the path our Founding Fathers intended it would take.

But make no mistake here. That type of success would be just as much of a threat to the millionaires running the Democrat Party as it would be to the Republican fatcats because it would end their currently mutually supportive relations whereby they vilify and denigrate each other publicly while remaining on intimate terms privately.

An invigorated, robust and genuine Conservative Party would go after the Democrat hypocrites with even more glee than they would the faux Conservatives, and since there are even MORE Democrat millionaires than Republicans, they stand to lose even more.


11 posted on 12/09/2009 11:43:50 PM PST by Ronin
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12 posted on 12/10/2009 12:24:39 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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13 posted on 12/10/2009 12:41:45 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Vote conservative....Please pray for our Troops, our Vets, our Country, Families and Friends)
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To: neverdem
Instead, the Republican establishment disdains this populist uprising.

I'm not one for populism. The Tea Party is great, however.


15 posted on 12/10/2009 12:51:34 AM PST by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
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To: neverdem; onyx; All

Very good article and a very, very good thread. Thanks for the background information/education on Viguerie. Thanks to all posters.


26 posted on 12/10/2009 2:54:25 AM PST by PGalt
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To: neverdem

Third parties , we have been told, always assure victory for the opposition, an unintended consequence. Third parties have never had enough strength to win in total. The Tea party movement is different and is growing stronger because it is rapidly becoming clear that the established parties, in trying to keep their priviledged positions, are letting stealth marxists, statists, and one worlders destroy the Republic! The only chance America has lies with the true Patriots We the People


29 posted on 12/10/2009 3:00:55 AM PST by timetostand (Defund the left!! Defund the Federal Beast!)
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From the tea parties, the grassroots, and the alternative media, we are seeing new leaders emerge. Like our Founders, they understand their strength of leadership does not come from a political party, but from consent of the governed. That is why they don't hitch their wagons to one person or one party.
31 posted on 12/10/2009 3:17:44 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: neverdem

You walk into the room
With your pencil in your hand
You see somebody naked
And you say, “Who is that man?”
You try so hard
But you don’t understand
Just what you’ll say
When you get home

Because something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?

You raise up your head
And you ask, “Is this where it is?”
And somebody points to you and says
“It’s his”
And you say, “What’s mine?”
And somebody else says, “Where what is?”
And you say, “Oh my God
Am I here all alone?”

Because something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?


32 posted on 12/10/2009 3:20:55 AM PST by Jim Noble (Hu's the communist?)
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To: neverdem
I will work hard to help Conservatives in the Primaries to take the Republican Nomination, but if a RINO gets the nomination I vote third party.

Hey RNC, the ball is in your court!

33 posted on 12/10/2009 3:27:31 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: neverdem

Republican “leaders”?
You mean like Juan McLame? Newt Gingrich? and that boy with the pretty hairdo the Morman fella?
These aren’t leaders, they are horse crap RINO’s
Hell Gingrich has simply become a camera whore.
Only one real conservative I’m interested in and that b
SARA CUDA.


38 posted on 12/10/2009 4:11:18 AM PST by Joe Boucher (This marxist punk has got to go.)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping. Good article.


41 posted on 12/10/2009 5:32:27 AM PST by iceskater (The "public option" in government run health care means no option at all.)
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Truly it is written:

Proverbs 30:27
The locusts have no king, yet go they forth all of them by bands;

May God of Heaven help us...


45 posted on 12/10/2009 8:22:43 AM PST by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all!!!)
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To: neverdem; RegulatorCountry
If the Republicans quickly make a right turn, find a new leader who, in his bones and being, understands and appreciates the simple principles and ideas of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution, and can articulate those ideas, they can win big in 2012. Because the ideas of America's founding are just as revolutionary (perhaps more) today as they were then.

America's big bloated government is King George, oppressive taxation and regulation are being felt by ordinary people, and they will respond to a real leader (not any of the current crop).

Popularity and issues-oriented chatter won't do it. Solid, sound principles and ideas will. Couple that with a credentialed and knowledgeable patriot who understands the nature and history of our enemies, as well as the counterfeit ideas of the Left in America, and in 2012, the current President will be limited to one term.

Lt. Col. Allen West deserves close examination by those who recognize the military threats, as well as the ideological threats America faces. His bio is on his web site, and a recent blog posting can be found here.

There are videos contain his challenging speeches, as well as a recent interview in Israel, where he was a keynote speaker on terrorism.

48 posted on 12/10/2009 9:59:39 AM PST by loveliberty2
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