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Hacked E-Mail Data Prompts Calls for Changes in Climate Research
NY Times ^ | November 28, 2009 | ANDREW C. REVKIN

Posted on 11/27/2009 9:46:15 PM PST by neverdem

Some prominent climate scientists are calling for changes in the way research on global warming is conducted after a British university said thousands of private e-mail messages and documents had been stolen from its climate center.

The scientists say that the e-mail messages, which have circulated on the Internet and which disclose the inner workings of a small network of climatologists who chart the planet’s temperature, have damaged the public’s trust in the evidence that humans are dangerously warming the planet, just as many countries are poised to start reining in greenhouse gas emissions.

“This whole concept of, ‘We’re the experts, trust us,’ has clearly gone by the wayside with these e-mails,” said Judith Curry, a climate scientist at Georgia Institute of Technology.

She and other scientists are seeking more transparency in the way climate data is handled and in the methods used to analyze it. And they argue that scientists should re-evaluate the selection procedures used by some scientific journals and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the panel that in 2007 concluded that humans were the dominant force driving warming and whose findings underpin international discussions over a new climate treaty.

A fierce debate over the significance of the hacked material erupted as soon as the e-mail messages and other documents surfaced on Web sites just over a week ago. Some see in the e-mail correspondence — which includes heated discussions about warming trends, advice on deleting potentially controversial e-mail messages and derisive comments about climate skeptics — evidence of a conspiracy to stifle dissenting views and withhold data from public scrutiny, or, as some have put it, “Climategate.”

To others, the e-mail messages are merely evidence that climate scientists can be as competitive, proprietary, defensive and caustic as people engaged in any other high-level enterprise. They cast...

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1 posted on 11/27/2009 9:46:17 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

What they really want is more secure email


2 posted on 11/27/2009 9:51:17 PM PST by bigbob
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To: neverdem
<rhetorical question>Does Revkin mention anywhere in this article that he is a part of the scandal?</rhetorical question>
3 posted on 11/27/2009 9:51:40 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: neverdem

Hmmm. THe New York Times takes notice of the shennanigans by the global warming “true-believers”.

Next the NYT will ask Obama to show his true copy of his Birth Certificate.

Okay. We get only one of these. The other is a dream.


4 posted on 11/27/2009 9:51:56 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: bigbob
NYT being “evenhanded.” What was Mr. Revkin’s role in faked science ?
5 posted on 11/27/2009 9:53:31 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: neverdem
"Climate Science" is just another name for BS. Like "Political Science," "Social Science," and "Environmental Science."

All ramped up after real science won WWII by saving the lives of millions of American GIs with the atom bomb. The wannabee frauds who couldn't learn higher mathematics but wanted to be recognized as intellectuals made their move: try to grab some prestige by concatenating the word "science" to their pathetic hobbies.

It's been a long time coming.

6 posted on 11/27/2009 9:54:02 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: neverdem

What is really called for are arrests and convictions.


7 posted on 11/27/2009 9:54:15 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: neverdem

“....small network of climatologists....”

In other words: The crooks paid by the UNITED NATIONS to spread this HOAX.


8 posted on 11/27/2009 9:56:39 PM PST by Islam=Murder (Hitler hated his Jewish side, Omoslem hates his white side.)
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To: neverdem

“Some prominent climate scientists are calling for (((changes)))...”

Changes, CHANGES!! This is far beyond a discussion of “changes”. CHARGES is the operative word.

Heads should roll from top to bottom over this, so much so, that we should be filling prisons all over the world with these criminal conspirators.

Of course, it won’t happen, other than a few token low level sacrificial lambs.. then we will be told to move on, it’s been dealt with.


10 posted on 11/27/2009 9:59:36 PM PST by Gator113 (Obama is Americas First Failed Black Pres-dent.....)
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To: wolf24
Didn’t Revkin’s name come up in this?

Yeah, but he's with the New York Times. Nobody expects anything better from the laughingstock New York Times.
Hopefully that paper will be dead soon anyway.

11 posted on 11/27/2009 10:02:11 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: neverdem

Anti-truth, life-devaluing, climate criminals should be prosecuted.

Amazing that all of the anti-criminal agents and agencies in the world...and none has looked, is looking, or will look into these criminals.

Who will protect us from our protectors?


12 posted on 11/27/2009 10:02:26 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Gator113
Changes, CHANGES!! This is far beyond a discussion of “changes”. CHARGES is the operative word.

Heads should roll from top to bottom over this, so much so, that we should be filling prisons all over the world with these criminal conspirators.

EXACTLY! Propaganda never stops. Witness Revkin.

13 posted on 11/27/2009 10:05:15 PM PST by PGalt
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
The scientists say that the e-mail messages, which have circulated on the Internet and which disclose the inner workings of a small network of climatologists who chart the planet's temperature, have damaged the public's trust in the evidence that humans are dangerously warming the planet, just as many countries are poised to start reining in greenhouse gas emissions.
s/b Just as many countries are poised to impose unjustifiable sanctions on working people everywhere in order to enrich Al Gore et al. Thanks neverdem.
14 posted on 11/27/2009 10:13:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: neverdem

bump


15 posted on 11/27/2009 10:15:21 PM PST by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: neverdem
So "Andy" Revkin, email pen pal to Dr. Mann, writes the straight news story in the New York Times without disclosing his involvement. At the NYT, even when transparency is the subject, so too is it the first casualty.

It is a fairly balanced media-template story, buried deep in the Thanksgiving Saturday paper, and provides the signal to the MSM to provide the story coverage that is dilatory, grudging, desultory and fleeting.

We'll see a blip of "See, we covered it" stories over the weekend, and the MSM blackout will again descend.

16 posted on 11/27/2009 10:16:45 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: neverdem

Another house of lies falls into the sea. It’s the fault of the rising seawaters caused by global warming alright.


17 posted on 11/27/2009 10:17:21 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: neverdem

Here is the NYT trying to set up a bracket on thought. It is far worse than can be described in a few words. The EU president just got through talking about the one world government where the resourses of the planet are controlled by the corporations and those that own the corporations.

There is an unbelievable treaty already drafted and hidden at the UN website described in the third part of this Alex Jones interview with Lord Christopher Monckton= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoYhI5DosQs

This is a crime of such magnitude since it was the stroke meant to do away with the sovereignty of nations all under the bogus motto of save the world and this is the way the NYT tries to control thought. We get it. The globalist own the media and we see with each controlled media story how they cannot give up the hoax in the call for justice that would see Al Gore and others in prison for this fraud.

The bracket will not hold NYT. Nobody with any sense will listen to your crap. We have president continuing the fraud too and a House of Representative that should immediately rescind the enslavement bill they passed with mendacity of saving us.

The carbone tax and all its frauds and implications are in your face, hang-them-high treason.


18 posted on 11/27/2009 10:20:14 PM PST by poodle
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To: neverdem

Copenhagan will now turn in to a rally to end speech they disagree with.


19 posted on 11/27/2009 10:24:06 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: neverdem

ANDREW C. REVKIN who was involved in the emails!


20 posted on 11/27/2009 10:26:26 PM PST by kcvl
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