Posted on 11/21/2009 4:01:45 PM PST by rmlew
Well thanks for your comment. I have to agree. But I don't remember seeing the seeds of this forty years ago. And go back another generation, right after the war we were all passionately pro Israel. Michael Gelerntner(Sp?) has written about this. He says we lost the battle in the universities.
Correction’ Should be David Gelernter, not Michael
Well, after they help reelect Obama in 2012, he will have gotten everything out of them that he needed, so...
“even purportedly religious ones, are leftists by faith”
That’s been my experience too.
Also we are losing the young people as the leftists poison their minds. Jewish youth are unprepared to counter the Israel criticism that is rampant on campus. I just went to a forum with JPost journalist Khaled Abu Toameh. It was very pro Israel including audience questions.
The only anti-Israel questions and positions came from college students who had been educated in Yeshivas. If this trend continues, the US will be as hostile to Israel as Europe in ten years.
Not surprising. That might be expected statistically, when you consider that Christians outnumber Jews in the US by a ratio of about 40 to 1.
I would still think, though, despite all the garbage going on college campuses, that the percentage of American Jews that are pro-Israel still exceeds the percentage of American Christians that are pro-Israel.
I don't know. I think it depends upon what you mean by "pro-Israel." Every Jew I know thinks of himself as pro-Israel, but once you scratch the surface you find out differently. Most of these are part of the two-sides-to-every-story crowd and think there is some justification for Arab resistance to the State of Israel. If you look for people who feel as I do that, yes, there are two sides: the right one and the wrong one, I think you'll find a higher percentage of us among the Christians.
ML/NJ
The central Hillel Foundation, which hires the campus directors and financially supports the entire Hillel operation, should be firing the directors whose chapters willfully sponsor anti-Israel activities on their respective campuses. Those who hold the purse strings should be responsible enough to send a stern message that the presence of flagrantly anti-Israel groups at their facilities or under their aegis will not be tolerated.
The central Hillel Foundation, which hires the campus directors and financially supports the entire Hillel operation, should be firing the directors whose chapters willfully sponsor anti-Israel activities on their respective campuses. Those who hold the purse strings should be responsible enough to send a stern message that the presence of flagrantly anti-Israel groups at their facilities or under their aegis will not be tolerated.
Hillel sucks. They sucked beans when I was in college and they suck now. They are filled with a bunch of wacko’s who know less about Judaism than they know about doing a “doobie” with their buds on campus.
Hillel sucks. They sucked beans when I was in college and they suck now. They are filled with a bunch of wacko’s who know less about Judaism than they know about doing a “doobie” with their buds on campus.
My sample is heavily Jewish, as I live in Manhattan.
Well at Kansas U Hillel they are very supportive of Israel and their major programing focus is Israel. Their foundation receives very little funding from National Hillel.
The Kansas City Jewish federation provides a major portion of their funds.
As a Kansan we are proud of Sam Brownback’s effort. He has always been a friend of Israel.
As to the Kansas City Jewish Chronicle I didn’t agree with the editor’s editorial and have not over the years. They have a retired Rabbi named Morris Margolies who is a contributing writer and for a respected elder of the community he is a very bitter Anti-American and freedom loving American. He weekly wrote Anti-Bush poison columns in the paper getting a free pass from the Kansas City Jewish Chronicle.
For smart folks sometimes my fellow Jews are stupid.
Ok, start it up. I’m in.
Please see my post # 27.
Please see my post # 27.
If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
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Exactly. It does not because the Foundation is drawn from the same pool of people --- if not outright leftist, then sufficiently unprincipled and confused, hence passive in the face of the Leftist onslaught.
The idea was that if government were purged of its Christian character that Jews would rise to the heights. They also bought the myth that Jews under Islam flourished. So there is an unacknowledged anti-Christian sentiment at work. Also unacknowledged, as Barbara Tuchman ointed out, Zionism owes a tremendous debt to British Judeophilism, examplfied by the Balfour Agreement. Liberal Jews, like the Arabs, think it can be explained as British perfidy, because the Brirish also promised the Arabs very much. The truth is that Lawrence made promises he had no right to make and through his celebrity sold this version of history to the left. So Zionism had been tarred with the anti-colonialism of that is part of the mindset of the Left. The non-jewish Left has never trusted Jews, because they think that Leftish Jews are untrustworthy, that they were willing to sell-out their own people for their self advancement. This is undeniably true of the Stalinist Left.
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