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Complications Grow for Muslims Serving in U.S. Military
New York Times ^ | November 9, 2009 | Andrea Elliot

Posted on 11/10/2009 2:52:06 AM PST by lbryce

Complications Grow for Muslims Serving in U.S. Military By ANDREA ELLIOTT

Abdi Akgun joined the Mari­nes in Au­gust of 2000, fresh out of high school and eager to serve his coun­try. As a Mus­lim, the at­tacks of Sept. 11 only steeled his re­solve to fight ter­ror­ism.

But two years later, when Mr. Akgun was de­ployed to Iraq with the 26th Ma­rine Ex­pe­di­tionary Unit, the thought of con­fronting Mus­lims

He was haunt­ed by the possi­bil­i­ty that he might end up killing in­no­cent civili­ans.

“It’s kind of like the Civil War, where broth­ers fought each other across the Ma­son-​Dixon line,” Mr. Akgun, 28, of Lin­den­hurst, N.Y., who re­turned from Iraq with­out ever pulling the trig­ger. “I don’t want to stain my faith, I don’t want to stain my fel­low Mus­lims, and I also don’t want to stain my coun­try’s flag.”

Thou­sands of Mus­lims have served in the Unit­ed States mil­i­tary — a lega­cy that some trace to the First World War. But in the years since Sept. 11, 2001, as the Unit­ed States has be­come mired in two wars on Mus­lim lands, the ser­vice of Mus­lim-​Amer­i­cans is more nec­essary and more com­pli­cat­ed than ever be­fore.

In the af­ter­math of the shoot­ings at Fort Hood on Thurs­day by Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan of the Army, a psychi­a­trist, many Mus­lim sol­diers and their com­man­ders say they fear that the re­la­tion­ship between the mil­i­tary and its Mus­lim ser­vice mem­bers will only grow more dif­fi­cult

On Sun­day, the Army’s chief of staff, Gen. George W. Casey Jr., said he wor­ried about a back­lash against Mus­lims in the armed for­ces and em­pha­sized the mil­i­tary’s re­li­ance on those men and women.

“Our di­ver­si­ty, not only in our Army but in our coun­try, is a strength,” Gen­er­al Casey said Sun­day on “Meet the Press” on NBC.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fifthcolumn; islam; jihad; muslimtroops; nidalmalikhasan; terror
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In the af­ter­math of the shoot­ings at Fort Hood on Thurs­day by Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan of the Army, a psychi­a­trist, many Mus­lim sol­diers and their com­man­ders say they fear that the re­la­tion­ship between the mil­i­tary and its Mus­lim ser­vice mem­bers will only grow more dif­fi­cult.
Oh, it should grow more relaxed, I gather. May the God of freakin' political correctness forgive me (not really, I couldn't care less) but you see there's this thing called self-preservation that has us act in a way in which we seek to protect ourselves, that's all.

“I don’t un­der­stand why the Mus­lim-​Amer­i­can com­mu­ni­ty has to take re­spon­si­bil­i­ty for him,” said In­grid Matt­son, the pre­s­i­dent of the Is­lam­ic So­ciety of North Amer­i­ca. “The Army has had at least as much time and op­por­tu­ni­ty to form and shape this per­son as the Mus­lim com­mu­ni­ty.
The attitude expressed by these Islamic apologists would be incredibly funny if it weren't so tragic. It's exactly this sort of convoluted, politically correct liberal mindset we have to fear, portect against.

1 posted on 11/10/2009 2:52:06 AM PST by lbryce
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To: lbryce
The longer we allow the virus of Islam to spread in these United States the harder it will be to eradicate.

For starters, ban Islamists from our Armed Forces. Not gonna happen, but it should.

2 posted on 11/10/2009 2:59:50 AM PST by Jacquerie (All muslims are suspect.)
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To: lbryce
Oh, so he did it because he was a soldier, not because he was a radical Muslim? Of course…that makes sense…where’s that bong again?
3 posted on 11/10/2009 3:02:22 AM PST by cartan
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To: lbryce

It is a question that should be put to any Muslim in the Military. Is your first loyalty to America or Islam? There is only one right answer.


4 posted on 11/10/2009 3:05:13 AM PST by Bad Jack Bauer (Fat and Bald? I was BORN fat and bald, thank you very much!)
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To: lbryce
“Our di­ver­si­ty, not only in our Army but in our coun­try, is a strength,” Gen­er­al Casey said

IT'S A STUPID STATEMENT. STUPID. STUPID. STUPID.

5 posted on 11/10/2009 3:08:22 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: Jacquerie

We need to stop thinking of Islam as a religion. It is not. It is a totalitarian system,all encompassing, like communism. At its core is an instruction manual on how to attack, subjugate, infiltrate, and destroy other systems. It is a murderous death cult without a single redeeming human characteristic. Islam is a cancer on humanity. Mohammed was a psychotic child molester, in many ways a lot like Obama.


6 posted on 11/10/2009 3:08:30 AM PST by gorilla_warrior (Metrosexual hairless RINOs for hopey-changey bipartisan-ness)
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To: lbryce
But two years later, when Mr. Akgun was deployed to Iraq with the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit, the thought of confronting Muslims in battle gave him pause.

Where was all this handwringing on the left when christian President Bill Clinton was bombing the crap out of christian Serbia including bombing them on Easter Sunday with christian troops? No one had pause then, but now we have to give pause and understanding to Muslims who don't want to fight Muslims.

7 posted on 11/10/2009 3:09:10 AM PST by Dahoser (The missus and I joined the NRA. Who says Obama can't inspire conservatives?)
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To: lbryce
The leftist / communist media throwing up the wall of
diversion / confusion for Obama.

We have an administration that is emboldening
the terrorists.

This sort of thing ( attempted terrorist
attack on us soil) is becoming a weekly event now that the
current administration is dismantling a national security
system that kept us safe for 8 years. After a knife through
the heart of the intelligence community we are going to blame the Americans and the Army?

Elections have consequences and this is one of them.
Expect more in the future. I will be putting the blame
at the feet of the real instigator, the current
administration. The one that think the real terrorists
are pro-lifers, returning soldiers, vets, Christians,
tea party attendees, those with criticisms of the current
administration.

8 posted on 11/10/2009 3:14:51 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: lbryce

And yet these same muzzies will kill fellow muzzies over who was the proper heir to the moon cult leader. Interesting how they rationalize that.


9 posted on 11/10/2009 3:16:08 AM PST by doodad
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To: gorilla_warrior

“We need to stop thinking of Islam as a religion. It is not. It is a totalitarian system,all encompassing, like communism. At its core is an instruction manual on how to attack, subjugate, infiltrate, and destroy other systems. It is a murderous death cult without a single redeeming human characteristic. Islam is a cancer on humanity. Mohammed was a psychotic child molester....”

That’s a fact.


10 posted on 11/10/2009 3:20:39 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: lbryce

I hope each and every moosie in the U.S. is sleeping a little less well tonight.
Perhaps if they policed their crazies, stopped funding wahabbism, and stood up for what is right they would gain a little support.
But they refuse to take a strong stand against this crap so hopefully they will suffer NOW.
And at this point were I on a grand jury hearing a case where a Christian took out a whole bunch of moosies I do not think I’d indict.


11 posted on 11/10/2009 3:21:49 AM PST by Joe Boucher
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To: ClearCase_guy

Diversity = Perversity....a smarter man than me came up with that line.....Michael Savage.


12 posted on 11/10/2009 3:22:20 AM PST by runninglips (It was just time for this to come to a head.....)
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To: lbryce
“I don’t un­der­stand why the Mus­lim-​Amer­i­can com­mu­ni­ty has to take re­spon­si­bil­i­ty for him,” said In­grid Matt­son, the pre­s­i­dent of the Is­lam­ic So­ciety of North Amer­i­ca. “The Army has had at least as much time and op­por­tu­ni­ty to form and shape this per­son as the Mus­lim com­mu­ni­ty.

It seems that "shaping" included "research" for a "thesis" that required extensive email correspondence with a radical Muslim cleric and former Imam of the mosque he worshipped at in DC, internet postings praising suicide bombers, and attempts to contact al Qaeda terrorists.

Not a problem, says the FBI -- it was research.

Not a whole lot of "shaping" by the Army going on, it seems.

13 posted on 11/10/2009 3:22:24 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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My gosh Jacquerie,
That is so politically incorrect.
Couldn’t agree more with ya.


14 posted on 11/10/2009 3:23:00 AM PST by Joe Boucher
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To: gorilla_warrior

Excellent points.


15 posted on 11/10/2009 3:24:02 AM PST by jwparkerjr (Sara Palin Must Go! to the white house!)
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To: Dahoser

Actually, we tried to keep troops of Japanese descent from fighting against the troops of Japan, and those born of German stock from fighting against Germany........wait a minute, you tell me that Japanese Americans were some of the baddest in the fight against Imperial Japan....never mind.


16 posted on 11/10/2009 3:24:42 AM PST by runninglips (It was just time for this to come to a head.....)
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To: lbryce
re: he might end up killing in­no­cent civili­ans

True, he might end up killing some innocent civilians in the process of killing those who kill innocent civilians as a matter of course. The innocent civilians that die in an American attack on a terrorist stronghold are but a small fraction of those who will die if the stronghold and its terrorists aren't taken out.

17 posted on 11/10/2009 3:27:20 AM PST by jwparkerjr (Sara Palin Must Go! to the white house!)
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To: lbryce

Ingrid needs to ask why her “good” Muslim community doesn’t jerk their Muslim perverts up by the neck and shake some sense into them.

At the same time, these “good” Muslim Imams should go out and do the same with their jihadist Imams.

Surely their Allah considers it a sin to watch evil be done and sit idly by.


18 posted on 11/10/2009 3:28:40 AM PST by plangent
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To: lbryce
How many Palestinians do you think are in the Israeli army?
19 posted on 11/10/2009 3:37:11 AM PST by 1776 Reborn
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>”Ingrid needs to ask why her “good” Muslim community doesn’t jerk their Muslim perverts up by the neck and shake some sense into them.

At the same time, these “good” Muslim Imams should go out and do the same with their jihadist Imams.

Surely their Allah considers it a sin to watch evil be done and sit idly by.”

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Common Law dictates that those who sit idely by, SHARE A PART OF THE BLAME!!!!!!!!!!


20 posted on 11/10/2009 3:37:20 AM PST by scoobysnak71
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