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Driver dies after truck plummets from Bay Bridge at S-curve
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 11/9/9 | Henry K. Lee, Chronicle Staff Writer

Posted on 11/09/2009 7:36:46 AM PST by SmithL

Edited on 11/09/2009 8:21:14 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

A truck driver died early today after losing control on the Bay Bridge S-curve at high speed and plummeting 200 feet below to Yerba Buena Island, the most serious collision yet since the new detour was installed, the California Highway Patrol said.


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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bay; baybridge; bridge; driver; plummets; scurve; truck
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200 feet is a long way to contemplate your fate.
1 posted on 11/09/2009 7:36:46 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL
The driver, whose name was not immediately released, was pronounced dead.

Was his name Yoder???

2 posted on 11/09/2009 7:38:11 AM PST by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: SmithL

Ugh. As if I needed any more reasons to be afraid of driving.


3 posted on 11/09/2009 7:39:53 AM PST by Julia H. (Freedom of speech and freedom from criticism are mutually exclusive.)
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To: Julia H.

Lotta crashes since they stuck that S curve in there...


4 posted on 11/09/2009 7:41:15 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: SmithL

5 posted on 11/09/2009 7:41:36 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: SmithL

Along this stretch, at least on the top deck, there is no heavy barrier — just a low piece of “jersey wall” and some see-through fencing. I’ve driven in the outside lane in my van, and you get a spectacular, but scary, view. I’m not surprise a big truck went over — there’s nothing to keep it on the road surface.

This is not the first truck that lost it here. A friend of mine was stuck behind the last one — for four hours.

They should have had, and now had better have, a big, big -ass warning sign in both directions, telling trucks that they need to take it REAL slow, or they’ll get killed.


6 posted on 11/09/2009 7:42:24 AM PST by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: SmithL
There have been more than 42 crashes in the curved area since it opened Sept. 8...

WTF?

Obviously the design/signage/speed rating is WRONG.

Doesn't California have experience with highways?

7 posted on 11/09/2009 7:44:10 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: SmithL

“200 feet is a long way to contemplate your fate.”

I wonder if we could install a huge picture of W just before the S curve on a huge billboard with him smiling and waving...the number of San Francisco socialists then entering the curve with only one hand on the wheel, the other busy giving him the bird...well, just a thought...


8 posted on 11/09/2009 7:45:59 AM PST by jessduntno (TOTUS fails and POtuS becomes a phuttering stuck.)
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To: beaversmom

Turning can be very difficult for Kalifornians, what with all their texting, cell phone chatter, reading, and pounding on the dashboard at Glenn Beck and all ...


9 posted on 11/09/2009 7:46:59 AM PST by Scythian
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

Sounds as though someone did some very poor planning! We used to call Yerba Buena “Yogi Bear” island when I was going to electronics school on Treaure Island back in ‘62 and ‘63, I don’t remember a lot of wrecks back then.


10 posted on 11/09/2009 7:48:02 AM PST by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: SmithL
spilling about 30 to 40 gallons of diesel fuel

which I guarantee caused more grief amongst citizens there than the poor man's death....most papers would not even mention a pissant 30-40 gallons of frigging fuel...good lord...a bathtub full...folks out there are insane.

11 posted on 11/09/2009 7:48:19 AM PST by wardaddy (the pump don't work cause the vandal took the handle)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux
Must have been this one: Flipped Big Rig Clogs Bay Bridge


12 posted on 11/09/2009 7:48:23 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: NativeNewYorker; Flash Bazbeaux
WTF?... Doesn't California have experience with highways?

Yes, but they also have experience with extensive bureaucratic red tape....and earthquakes.

The bay bridge has been a constricted construction zone for as long as I've been travelling out there, and they've always got some little inspection zone of rivet replacing or some kind of additional bracing addition going on on that thing.

To save just one life during an earthquake, how many have to die during construction?

13 posted on 11/09/2009 7:48:56 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

As time has gone by, I find I cannot drive over these types of bridges unless I am in the inside lane. Even at that, I focus exclusively on the tail lights in front of me and try not to look to the sides. Its weird, when young I rode on helicopters with my feet on the skids and never felt panicked. I have even thought of designing some glasses with blinders to help me cross such bridges. The worst one I crossed is in Astoria, OR, crossing the Columbia river. I let my wife drive across the Chesapeak Bay Bridge. Don’t know what causes this fear, but it is real.


14 posted on 11/09/2009 7:50:15 AM PST by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

At least the road is clear this time.

The load goes straight the road turns. Get down to 40 MPH before the turn. These drivers know that. This guy was a local driver.

Local news has shown the truck which exploded on impact with the ground. No fire, just exploded as in came apart at the seams. Looks like it went through a blender.


15 posted on 11/09/2009 7:50:50 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: NativeNewYorker
Obviously the design/signage/speed rating is WRONG. Doesn't California have experience with highways?

...and some people just refuse to slow down for road conditions regardless of the warning.

16 posted on 11/09/2009 7:54:03 AM PST by OB1kNOb (As government grows, corruption flows.)
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To: NativeNewYorker
Doesn't California have experience with highways?

Yes. We have found that cars are found on and around highways, and cars are evil because they are made of metal and stuff and use gasoline, which is evil.

17 posted on 11/09/2009 7:54:09 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: NativeNewYorker
I>"Doesn't California have experience with highways?"

There was a time when California's freeway system was the best in the world, by far. Today that is not the case. I can't really say what went wrong, but you would be hard pressed to find anyone in the Caltrans engineering organization that could explain it in English......

18 posted on 11/09/2009 7:54:17 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: equalitybeforethelaw
Better stay away from this one in Colorado:

I've got a fear of ALL heights. I can handle things if there is enough of a barrier, but can't get too close to the edge.

19 posted on 11/09/2009 7:55:09 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: jessduntno

LOL! Post of the day for funny and sort of weird posts.

;-)


20 posted on 11/09/2009 7:55:34 AM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: jessduntno

I like your thinking... ;)


21 posted on 11/09/2009 7:56:09 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Hope....Change...Food Stamps!)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

Houston has a really high bridge & we were traveling with a pickup & 28 foot Airstream when the engine went out just before we got to the top. There was no way to back up & my husband was able to get the vehicle started again & we coasted all the way down the bridge. No way no how am I getting near that bridge again.


22 posted on 11/09/2009 7:56:44 AM PST by jrcats (Well, I never thought there was going to be a worse President than Carter but Obama has him beat.)
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To: beaversmom

Ouch, think I will take the long way around. Did you know the Chesapeak Bay Bridge has drivers available to drive people across? Wonder if this bridge has the same?


23 posted on 11/09/2009 7:57:35 AM PST by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: OB1kNOb
some people just refuse to slow down

My experience in NY (and I don't drive all that much) is that such problem areas here tend to have 24/7 police presence with flashing lights and glowering men in blue, pulling folks over.

I've been told you do NOT want to be stopped by a couple of bored cops..

24 posted on 11/09/2009 7:57:59 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: SmithL; Pete-R-Bilt; NormsRevenge

This is what you get when a bridge is designed by a group of Community Organizers and not bridge engineers...


25 posted on 11/09/2009 7:58:18 AM PST by tubebender (Santa Claus is always jolly cause he knows where all the bad girls live...)
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To: beaversmom

I was up on the roof of the building where I work to do some patching this past Saturday. It’s a flat roof, but I couldn’t get too close to the sides because it scars the sh*t out of me when I look down.


26 posted on 11/09/2009 7:58:32 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Hope....Change...Food Stamps!)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw
It's a tourist deal. You have to seek it out. I did it as a kid but was scared as heck. Today, I think I would rather do the scenic train ride at the bottom.

Did you know the Chesapeak Bay Bridge has drivers available to drive people across?

That's interesting. Do you have to pay a fee?

27 posted on 11/09/2009 8:00:36 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: reagan_fanatic

I don’t blame you. How high up were you?


28 posted on 11/09/2009 8:01:40 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: jessduntno
“200 feet is a long way to contemplate your fate.”

I do not know how fast the human brian "contemplates"...but a drop of 20 feet (@ 32 ft/sec/sec) would take less than .55 of a second.

Truly not a long time to contemplate much of anything.

29 posted on 11/09/2009 8:02:21 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got.)
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To: beaversmom

Don’t know, never used it. I just white knuckle it across. Man, what a relief when you are over it.


30 posted on 11/09/2009 8:03:07 AM PST by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: RGSpincich

I go over the S curve every day. There are flashing lights, signs, everything but a speed bump telling people to SLOW DOWN to 40 mph. But you will always have idiots, despite the jackknifed truck, despite 42 accidents that have now included a fatality, that believe they can take the curve at “60 - no problem.”

I don’t know if it’s a peculiarity of Cali drivers (of which I’m one) or drivers in general, but if the sign says take the curve at 25, 35, or whatever, I’m such a nervous nellie I do what they tell me.


31 posted on 11/09/2009 8:03:23 AM PST by Right Cal Gal (Ronald Reagan: "our liberal friends....know so much that isn't so...")
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To: SmithL

The stimulus package at work...


32 posted on 11/09/2009 8:03:43 AM PST by Third Person (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: beaversmom

Only three stories, but it might as well have been 20. I entered through a skylight, so getting up and down was easy.


33 posted on 11/09/2009 8:04:01 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Hope....Change...Food Stamps!)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

Looks pretty, but I can definitely understand the fear.

34 posted on 11/09/2009 8:07:39 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: tubebender

It goes with the ‘No Fault’ approach in California Gubamint.

meshes quite well, eh?

6.2 billion , opens 2013


35 posted on 11/09/2009 8:08:06 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: beaversmom; tubebender

don’t hire a truck driver they’re no better back east than out west...

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/944749/chesapeake_bay_bridge_accident_closes.html


36 posted on 11/09/2009 8:10:45 AM PST by Pete-R-Bilt (To gain a real gage on the economy, watch to see how many MT flatbeds go down the road...)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

Been there done that. I once crossed the old Tampa bridge. There were two old metal spans. A freighter hit one bcak in 1980 something. There was one span going north and another south. After the accident they kept the one span open going north and south until the new bridge was built.

I made the mistake of going over it. You could see the wrecked span. I was pretty scared.


37 posted on 11/09/2009 8:11:47 AM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw; Pete-R-Bilt
From the end of the article in post #36:

The Chesapeake Bay Bridge may be an engineering marvel- the longest of its kind- but it is one I have always faced with trepidation.

38 posted on 11/09/2009 8:14:36 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: Logic n' Reason
Truly not a long time to contemplate much of anything"

slightly less than 3 seconds. "one-thousand-one, one-thousand-two, one-thousand-thWHAM".

39 posted on 11/09/2009 8:17:37 AM PST by no-s (B.L.O.A.T. everyday...because someday soon they won't be making any more...for you.)
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To: org.whodat
Was his name Yoder???

No that was somebody hollering, "Yo dere, you alive down dere?"

40 posted on 11/09/2009 8:18:50 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: beaversmom

years ago (early 80’s) I hauled fabricated steel for the tunnels that run under the bay and we were made to drive into the tunnels to unload.

My mother is the only thing (person) in my life that I truly feared but the thought of being under that much water made me nervous...


41 posted on 11/09/2009 8:19:50 AM PST by Pete-R-Bilt (To gain a real gage on the economy, watch to see how many MT flatbeds go down the road...)
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To: jessduntno
LOL Here's the perfect pic:


42 posted on 11/09/2009 8:20:38 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: Logic n' Reason
but a drop of 20 feet (@ 32 ft/sec/sec) would take less than .55 of a second.

20 feet would take 1.12 seconds.

200 feet would take 3.53 seconds.

43 posted on 11/09/2009 8:21:50 AM PST by Sloth (For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of the International Olympic Committee.)
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To: jessduntno

Awesome...just awesome...:)


44 posted on 11/09/2009 8:22:22 AM PST by rlmorel (Obama, The Flatulence of One Thousand Black Dogs After Eating Boiled Eggs Be Upon Him...)
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To: Pete-R-Bilt

Drowning and falling to my deah—definitely not two of my favorites :)


45 posted on 11/09/2009 8:23:12 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

I have even thought of designing some glasses with blinders to help me cross such bridges.

That is not hard to do. Get some thick opaque plastic sheeting, cut a rectangle, punch two holes in it in line and thread it on the earpiece of your eyeglasses. One rectangle on each side.

it works!

Or you can get some welder’s safety glasses with dark side shields.
That works also.


46 posted on 11/09/2009 8:23:17 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The sword does not kill. It is a tool in the killer's hand.---Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw
***As time has gone by, I find I cannot drive over these types of bridges unless I am in the inside lane. ... Don’t know what causes this fear, but it is real. ***

You're not alone.

I grew up in Chicago and we have a lot of bridges that cross the Chicago River. They're not long or high but I never 'liked' crossing them. And when the 'Chicago Skyway' was built I freaked crossing that thing as a kid -- it is high, long and 'open'.

But yet, I have (or had) no problem going up 500ft in a Construction 'Man Hoist' (wire cage elevator) on the outside of a building. Or going to the edge of a floor slab 40 stories up, only 'protected from falling' by a wire attached between to columns. (now the barriers are much better)

There's prolly some fancy name for 'fear of bridges', but like you say, its real. Go figure ?!? :-)

Oh and then when I had Motorcycles I really hated crossing them as the bridge decks are all metal grating and the bike's tires would wiggle...... arrrgh!

47 posted on 11/09/2009 8:26:56 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: no-s
Maybe it's just the video angle, but the impact point is not consistent with the truck departing the roadway at 50mph. Looks more like 35mph per distance from the exit point.

Seems that Caltrans closed the lane again and took some aerial photos. Perhaps they also note some inconsistency...

48 posted on 11/09/2009 8:27:01 AM PST by no-s (B.L.O.A.T. everyday...because someday soon they won't be making any more...for you.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; NormsRevenge; tubebender

in Cal. they view through their bellybuttons

it’s the most popular method there that I have noticed...


49 posted on 11/09/2009 8:27:38 AM PST by Pete-R-Bilt (To gain a real gage on the economy, watch to see how many MT flatbeds go down the road...)
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To: All
<"...200 feet would take 3.53 seconds..."

I don't want to make light of the poor man's fate, because I don't mean this as such, but remember that everything slows to a crawl in times like that.

To me, 3.53 seconds of full enlightenment, knowing full well the end is approaching, is a lifetime.

50 posted on 11/09/2009 8:27:45 AM PST by rlmorel (Obama, The Flatulence of One Thousand Black Dogs After Eating Boiled Eggs Be Upon Him...)
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