Treating trauma victims may cause its own trauma (HASAN AS A VICTIM DEFENSE BARF ALERT)

cnn ^ | 11/06/09 | Elizabeth Landau

[Typical_Whitey]

They listen to tales of life's worst moments, but they can't go home and tell their spouses about what they've heard. Sometimes no amount of schooling is enough to shield them from taking on some of their patients' suffering.

Those who counsel trauma victims -- whether they be psychiatrists, social workers or advocates -- can experience an emotional toll after intensive exposure to patients' stories of horror. Experts call this phenomenon "vicarious trauma."

The impact of trauma on those who help the traumatized has become a subject of discussion as investigators try to piece together why Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, 39, an Army psychiatrist at Darnall Army Medical Center, allegedly opened fire at a military processing center Thursday at Fort Hood Army Post in Texas, killing 13 people and wounding 30 others.

As an army psychiatrist, Hasan worked to help others in high-stress situations, including victims of post-traumatic stress disorder, military officials said. He is a graduate of Virginia Tech and previously worked at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. He had never deployed outside the United States, but was scheduled to go to Afghanistan, officials said.

[Typical_Whitey]

Well since its CNN Obama will call it reliable sourced news and highly likely as the motive. This is insane. They can continue to kill us and instead of calling them out on it many defend them? Liberals are nuts.

[cripplecreek]

Second hand PTSD

[SES1066]

I think that we can label these commentators as enablers. They exist to explain away guilt and reassign it to the group so that everybody is a victim. As a well known Katrina aftermath authority said; “Don’t get stuck on STUPID!” These people own STUPID!

[freekitty]

Not going to work. They have cried wolf to many times.

[bergmeid]

I am just livid over all this. The unmitigated gall of the state run media to continue to let Hasan-whats-his-face be the victim....... it just makes me want to throw up.

[Sarah Barracuda]

Hey I’ve heard some pretty horrible stories on TV about the war too, perhaps I have PTSD too. Hey CNN, instead of talking about poor Hasan, how about talking about the people who really matter..the men and women who were MASSACRED yesterday..they had families, and one was a month and a half pregnant..so as far as I’m concerned, 14 people died yesterday, of course the media doesn’t consider a fetus a human life so they won’t bother mentioning that

[SoCalPol]

Major BS

When the shooter was a student he was ranting his Muslim
propaganda yrs. back.

He also said he is a Muslim first, an American second.

HE often wore Arab robes away from base.
The DailyMail UK has pics of him in robes just hrs. before he killed

[highlander_UW]

What is it about the liberal pathology that causes them to excuse the guilty and blame the innocent?

[ETL]

"Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who allegedly killed 11 people before being shot and wounded by police at Fort Hood, had said Muslims should "rise up" and attack Americans in retaliation for the US war in Iraq, a former army colleague said."

"He said Muslims should stand up and fight the aggressor and that we should not be in the war in the first place." He said that Major Hasan said he was "happy" when a US soldier was killed in an attack on a military recruitment centre in Arkansas in June. An American convert to Islam was accused of the shootings.

Col Lee alleged that other officers had told him that Major Hasan had said "maybe people should strap bombs on themselves and go to Times Square" in New York.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6511591/Fort-Hood-shooting-Nidal-Malik-Hasan-said-Muslims-should-rise-up.html
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"Soldiers reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" — an Arabic phrase for "God is great!" — before opening fire, said Lt. Gen. Robert Cone, the base commander."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/alert/sns-ap-us-fort-hood-shooting,0,4218901.story?track=rss

[GeronL]

Does second hand trauma explain the internet postings? the extra time at the shooting range and the reports of him giving a speech on the koan calling for infidels to be beheaded?

[Motorheadlemmy]

Sorry Hasad, you don’t fit Obama’s narrative...when you wake up don’t plan on hitting 40...

[GeronL]

“Compassion Fatigue” is the most insulting thing ever. For a mass murdering terrorist who had no compassion whatsoever.

[McLynnan]

I call BS. Trauma surgeons and ER doctors deal with gunshot wounds, assault victims, horrendous motor vehicle accident injuries, etc. day in and day out. They don’t whine they need counseling to go on.

[JrsyJack]

Bull...as a psychiatrist this guy is well equipped to “act” unbalanced to conceal his true motives; to kill American infidels. All this talk about duress over deployment is a perfect cover story for a sleeper terrorist mole in uniform. If this guy had any honor he would have resigned his commission, refused deployment and suffered the consequences of a court martial. There was a time when conscientious objectors were pacifists, not cold blooded killers.

[toddausauras]

What the hell is wrong with this country? What does it take for you to be a bad person nowadays? Killing people in the double digits? Nope. Being a person carrying a sign with a legitimate point of dissent against the Gov? Yup.

[headsonpikes]

Please.

Let’s just deal with the truth.

It’s Bush’s fault!

[AmericanInTokyo]

ONCE AGAIN, ANYTHING BUT THE OBVIOUS: ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISM, EVEN IF A LONE ACT

This will be the party line, as there is an end objective to their reporting. There are things they MUST avoid and things they MUST push the sheeple toward believing. We must challenge them at every turn!!!

[Irisshlass]

Well if this is the end result, killing our soldiers, then they need to stop the treatment...end it.

[keepitreal]

Just heard AC 360 ad for top of the hour (interesting facts)

1) Hasan paid his rent 6 months in advance when he arrived at Ft. Hood.

2) Even though he had his own computer, he would use his neighbor’s.

3) He never had visitors except for one the night before the shootings.

[rmlew]

Auster's First Law of Majority-Minority Relations in Liberal Society:

The worse any designated minority or alien group behaves in a liberal society, the bigger become the lies of Political Correctness in covering up for that group. Thus, instead of the revelation over the last 14 months of Islam's dangerous and savage character leading (as would happen in a rational world) to a major discrediting of Muslims, or at least to a more skeptical attitude toward them, it has led to their being more favored, more coddled and more protected from criticism than ever before. They now get a whole new level of solicitous, sycophantic treatment, ranging from PBS "histories" of Islam that are more full of uncritical celebration of their subject than a tourist travelogue, to the media's constant attacks on the rest of us for indulging in an anti-Muslim backlash which has somehow never occurred.

That last point leads us to the first corollary of Auster's First Law of Majority/Minority Relations in Liberal Society: The more egregiously any non-Western or non-white group behaves, the more evil whites are made to appear for noticing and drawing rational conclusions about that group's bad behavior.

The First Law and its corollary are intrinsic to liberalism. Once the equality of all human groups is accepted as a given, any facts that make a minority or foreign group seem worse than the majority native group must be either covered up or blamed on the majority.

Or if you want a less controversial take try this. In 1983 the French journalist and intellectual Jean-Francois Revel wrote How Democracies Perish. It was a withering critique of the West’s loss of nerve and will in the face of the totalitarian threat it faced. In his book, Revel wrote, “Democracy tends to ignore, even deny, threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed to counter them.”