Shootout at West Toledo bar spurs fears of criminal bravado (must see video)

Toledo Blade ^ | 10/11/09 | JC REINDL

[OldDeckHand]

A late-night disagreement between two men in a bar becomes a stare-down.

One side throws fists, and a brief brawl breaks out. Customers scatter. Tables are overturned. Friends on the sidelines straighten their postures and walk tough. Others grab their coats and head for the door.

Some physical commotion is not uncommon at evening establishments where alcohol is served. But it's what happened next on Thursday evening inside the Route 66 Kitchen in West Toledo that has unsettled some Toledoans.

With surveillance cameras rolling, several figures pulled out handguns and engaged in a shootout that raged inside and outside the bar for several minutes. Seventeen shell casings littered the floor or ground before the gun battle petered out, leaving a front door riddled with bullet holes and scenes of lawless mayhem preserved on video.

Amazingly, no one was hurt.

[OldDeckHand]

You must watch the whole video at the link. After the initial shootout, they move outside for a little more mayhem. It seems that there some considerable time before the police respond.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Is it mayhem when only property is damaged or destroyed?

[cyst]

The people in the video are acting like savages.

[Brett66]

No on was hurt?

Wow! Old Wyatt Earp’s philosophy on gun fights still holds, you have to take careful, deliberate aim even if bullets are flying around you.

[OldDeckHand]

"Is it mayhem when only property is damaged or destroyed?"

According to Websters: needless or willful damage or violence.

So yes, I'd say when you empty at least two clips in a point blank shootout, it is mayhem, even though the participants are such poor and undisciplined shooters that neither was able to hit their targets at less than 10 feet.

[glorgau]

Amazingly, no one was hurt.

This is due to a lack of gun control. They were just spraying and praying.

[GoldenPup]

Looked like ALL those guys need a little more range time...unless they were shooting blanks.

[madison10]

It seems that there some considerable time before the police respond.

That's because of cutbacks. They are fortunate that the police responded at all.

[Steely Tom]

I prefer the phrase “Democrat core constituents.”

[HiTech RedNeck]

That would have been a gag scene.

[OldDeckHand]

"That's because of cutbacks. They are fortunate that the police responded at all. "

I have some family in Toledo, and they told me that this was really close to UT. It's hard to believe that it took police so long to respond to a shooting close to a university.

[null and void]

“Amazingly, no one was hurt.”

Amateurs.

[Bulldawg Fan]

The guy outside was hopping around like a rabbit, shooting at the building it seems. Why should the cops intervene, the more these guys kill each other, the better off innocents are.

[Pusterfuss]

Looked like an ACORN pep rally.

[StormEye]

"The people in the video are acting like savages."

Ghetto clientele.

[thinking]

A reckless society, determined to self-destruct....

[TWfromTEXAS]

17 shots, no one hurt? No gun control at all. My dad would take my piece away.

[digger48]

I think it would be safe to say, with a 98% accuracy, that those were supporters of Obama.

[Hot Tabasco]

Is that snow on the bushes in front of the bar? If so, when was this video taken, it certainly couldn’t have been recent.....

[Steely Tom]

Yes, but we mustn’t generalize.