Posted on 10/05/2009 4:15:16 AM PDT by SE Mom
At a White House dinner with a group of historians at the beginning of the summer, Robert Dallek, a shrewd student of both the Kennedy and Johnson administrations, offered a chilling comment to President Obama.
"In my judgment," he recalls saying, "war kills off great reform movements." The American record is pretty clear: World War I brought the Progressive Era to a close. When Franklin D. Roosevelt was waging World War II, he was candid in saying that "Dr. New Deal" had given way to "Dr. Win the War." Korea ended Harry Truman's Fair Deal, and Vietnam brought Lyndon Johnson's Great Society to an abrupt halt.
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If that seems too stark a way to view it- I invite nuanced thinking from any Obama tolls.
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Dionne finishes with this:
Those most eager for a bigger war have little interest in Obama’s quest for domestic reform. As he ponders his options, theirs are not the voices he should worry about.
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As usual we on the right are viewed as war-lovers. Personally speaking- nothing could be farther from the truth.
Did 9/11 teach these towering intellects nothing?
It’s hard when you have to deal with the harsh realities of the real world isn’t it? Seems history keep repeating itself over and over again, the Utopian dream keeps getting shattered by others who see it as weakness.
It’s hard when you have to deal with the harsh realities of the real world isn’t it? Seems history keep repeating itself over and over again, the Utopian dream keeps getting shattered by others who see it as weakness.
And we are still suffering from the “great reforms” of FDR’s New Deal and Johnson’s Great Society.
Indeed..
Now what was that alternative again?
Events last week in Chicago proved that LBJ's "Great Society" continues to bear its bitter fruit.
And why was the Korean war necessary but not the Viet Nam war?
Just a new excuse for O to use when Bush’s fault no longer works.
You lie! (Dallek, not SE Mom).
LOL! Yeah...but he’s got the right idea- war normally takes precedent. Not so with this president. It’s not out of the realm that hearing Dallek’s reminder of it is what got the administration to reconsider their Afghan strategy...
“Events last week in Chicago proved that LBJ’s “Great Society” continues to bear its bitter fruit.”
Obama and his followers wanted change...they got it...instead of facing 21st century problems and the menace of Islamic terrorists, we got the 1960’s.
.....”Vietnam brought Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society to an abrupt halt.”
....not quite...LBJ didn’t have enough funding for both Vietnam and the Great Society entitlements...so he’d send Dean Rusk down to Congress to ask for more money....and Congress would beat crap out of him....so LBJ went to printing money and that set off inflation&stagflation that ran unabated until Volker jacked up the prime to 19%....that high prime was bitter medicine, but it worked and laid the groundwork for the Reagan recovery.
....these days nobody wants to take the bitter medicine.
I can’t possibly despise these people anymore than I do right this second.
Conversations like this just show how idiotic people have become in regards to the Constitution and the role of government. Running a war and protecting the US from foreign aggression is actually one of the duties of being president, whereas domestic reform is not.
Good post!
Liberals never grew up. Peter Pan meets Robin Hood.
The Afghanistan war is now TOTALLY politicized. Our soldiers and Marines are now caught in the middle of it.
The new Official Party Line has been announced by the Pravda-on-the-Potomac.
Perceptive apparatchiks will take note and change their positions accordingly!
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