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1 posted on 10/01/2009 9:33:23 AM PDT by mormonsniper
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Finally we are doing something right? Not good news for the Red Chinese though.


2 posted on 10/01/2009 9:34:49 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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Why do I get the feeling that “the One” will announce some major deal with Cuba where we are giving back Gitmo and moving to Panama.


3 posted on 10/01/2009 9:35:46 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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I’d like to see the Naval bases reopened in the Philippines. The Navy should be returned to “The P.I.”!!!


7 posted on 10/01/2009 9:42:15 AM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the World Dances With You!)
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"Great news for Panama, really bad news for drug traffickers."

Location, location, location.

8 posted on 10/01/2009 9:43:44 AM PDT by AGreatPer (Impeach Obama)
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Way back when, Jimmy Carter turned the Panama Canal Zone and the canal over to the Panamanians. I don’t say “back over,” because there was no Panama before WE built the Panama Canal. That real estate belonged to Colombia. I remember reading at the time, and discussing in school, how Carter’s generosity would affect Panama, now that they were “free,” and someone pointed out they were losing billions of dollars of U.S. aid by taking control. So here we come, full circle. The Panamanians want us back because they can’t afford to defend themselves, and because they now really, really appreciate the dollars that U.S. military installations bring to their country. I wish someone would report how much it cost us to withdraw, strategically, from Panama in the first place.


9 posted on 10/01/2009 9:43:58 AM PDT by La Lydia
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Does Emperor Obie know about this? Who authorized this? He is going to be ticked.


13 posted on 10/01/2009 9:59:27 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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bump


14 posted on 10/01/2009 10:03:19 AM PDT by VOA
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Take that, Hugo!


15 posted on 10/01/2009 10:04:51 AM PDT by SueRae
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It’s called heading them off at the pass.


18 posted on 10/01/2009 10:05:33 AM PDT by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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...for the other shoe to drop.

I never hear good news out of this administration thinking it’s all a plus. Something negative will come of this.

In truth, I suppose a naval base just above South America is a good thing. It sure sends a message to China with regard to the safety of the Canal.


19 posted on 10/01/2009 10:06:30 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Ded Kennedy, Stealing from the middle class for nearly 40 years to end poverty.)
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Probably looking for some major $$ in aid for the crumbling canal infrastructure. You would not believe the poor shape they have let the canal hardware fall to since they took over.


21 posted on 10/01/2009 10:16:15 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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How long has this been in the making? I suspect for some years. If under Bush Jr., I can understand the strategic relevance. If under Obambi, I have reservations.

BTW, for all those who think the USA just gave away the Panama Canal, it was actually a matter of a treaty ending, thanks to Carter and subsequent Presidents who didn't fight to extend it. Sorta like Britain had to give up Hong Kong due to the end of a century old lease.

That actually turned out to be good for the average Chinese. They and their leadership got a big dose of capitalism and are quickly becoming a free-enterprise nation with a growing middle-class (China expects GDP of 8% by year end - what is our projection? ).

The Chi-Coms still have room for improvement politically and civil rights wise, but they are becoming more capitalistic by the day as the USA is becoming more socialist/Marxist by the day. The Chi-coms understand the importance of free-enterprise and are selling off their State controlled assets to private investors/corporations. The USA is in the process of seizing control of personal/corporate assets.

Still, no matter what the circumstances, I can only see this as a good thing. The Panama Canal is one of the most strategic points in the Western Hemisphere. I am encouraged if the US is allowed to have military bases there. I've often worried about the Chi-coms controlling both ends of the canal, even with their move towards capitalism. Someone was thinking here. Again, when and how did this come about?

25 posted on 10/01/2009 10:29:48 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever !)
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“”One of the bases will be located in Bahia Pina...450 kilometers [280 miles] east of the capital, Panama City, and another one - in Punta Coca about 350 km [217 miles] west of the capital,””

wow these guys are going to be far far from any urban reality.

I kept thinking Howard might be re-leased by USAF with the imminent closing of Manta, but there is considerable civilian construction there now (a huge terminal facility, for one thing) and I guess it is going to be civilian-only. The flight-line and the main area of the base (including associated housing behind the tdy qtrs/church) has been mostly unused since turnover.


28 posted on 10/01/2009 10:43:03 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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there should be one on each opening....


29 posted on 10/01/2009 10:46:43 AM PDT by The Wizard (Democrat Party: a criminal enterprise)
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I’ll put it to you that airbases in panama makes Venezuala within range of all-up loaded F-15E’s.

Think the Mudhen’s could have fun flying between mountains blocking radar while ruining Chavez’s day?

I know, I’m just sayin’.


30 posted on 10/01/2009 10:51:13 AM PDT by Right Winged American (No matter how Cynical I get, I just can't keep up!)
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Oh, now that’s gonna be energy efficient to send prisoners there, huh? Good idea, close Gitmo and open Panama. What is it 50 times further away? Sheesh.


36 posted on 10/01/2009 11:36:09 AM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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Now, THAT is good news...........for a change!!


40 posted on 10/01/2009 12:24:10 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (THE ONLY ASTROTURF IN CONGRESS IS FOUND BETWEEN NANCY PELOSI'S EARS!!)
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This may be Obambi's 'Wag the Dog' moment. The goal is to focus attention away from his disastrous PR trip to Denmark as Iran nukes up, Afghanistan burns, and Samoa drowns.

BTW, as Rush reminded us today, the Dear Leader never bothered to visit the flood-stricken areas of 'American' Georgia.

43 posted on 10/01/2009 2:23:11 PM PDT by rfp1234
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Oh boy! We built it and protected it and Carter gave it away. This is a start.


45 posted on 10/01/2009 4:04:07 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 ( I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! The "other" Jim Thompson)
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I live in Panama. No “US” bases according to Panamanian Gov. Someone screwed up on this release. More like the Panamanians are setting up two bases to help fight the drug trafficking. US may, I repeat, may be helping in some way but expect no US ships based down here. It is too big a political hot potato right now.

However, as I am president of Navy League Panama Council, I will have some insights over the next few weeks that others may not have. Will be calling my Embassy contacts tomorrow about this for clarification.

51 posted on 10/01/2009 8:47:01 PM PDT by fred2008
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