Posted on 09/27/2009 6:13:32 AM PDT by conservativegramma
Mr. John Charlton of The Post & Email posted yesterday the following admission on the part of the ColoradoIndependent.com:
Experts have repeated time and again that the documents presented to the country and campaign officials are real and legitimate documents and that a “long-form certificate” does not exist. [emphasis mine]
(Excerpt) Read more at therightsideoflife.com ...
"It further appears that this Certification of Nomination which includes text concerning constitutional requirements is the basis for statements made by Hawaii officials, who have proclaimed that Obama is a “natural born citizen” on the basis that Nancy Pelosi said so in her false Certification of Nomination."
In other words, Dr. Fukino's statements they have 'seen the documentation' may be nothing more than the less than reliable 'certification' issued by the DNC. This particular less than reliable 'certification' was ONLY released in the state of Hawaii - the other 49 states got something different. This just keeps getting stranger and stranger and more and more ridiculous.
Trolls to arrive in 1, 2, 3.......
Circular logic = circular firing squad!
Should we be surprised, ALL COMMIES LIE!
It is about time for this Fraud to come home to roost.
Well, the only “Long Form” certificate we have seen that has gone unchallenged is the Kenyan BC with Barry’s little footprint on it.
Obama is a gutless wonder. He is a lying pig and a coward who isn’t man enough to produce his real birth certificate. He knows he is illegal be in Kenya, Hawaii or Indonesia.
More and more, the bozos who voted him into office are beginning to wake up but it’s too little, too late. He’s in office and he’s going to remain there until there is a solid push and the American people as a whole demand all records are released.
I don’t care what Nancy signed or how many different forms she used or any lame DNC excuse that some states don’t require eligibility. Bottom line, the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES requires eligibility. The puppet, Hussein, is a usurper and there are powerful and evil people out to destroy America.
Barry is not eligible to be POTUS. Who has the authority to tell him to get out of the White House?
Oh, all this is so silly. The proof that Obama was born in Hawaii is a computer generated graphic of a newspaper clipping saying he was born. No need for trials and courtroom evidence! All you birthers are just nutty! /s
We need some big big monied conservatives to push harder on this issue. Get Pelousy to testify and make her swear on an oath about telling the truth(if she knows how).
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“We the people”
Whether he was born here or not, politicians of both parties don’t want to touch this with a ten foot pole. The problem, to them, is not the Constitution, it’s Rodney King.
They see what happened in Los Angeles after the Rodney King verdict and the violence that ensued. They know that, without a doubt, if Barack Obama were suddenly declared to be ineligible to serve as President and he was removed from office, the Los Angeles riots would be small potatoes compared to what would happen in this country. We’d have a civil war with African-Americans on one side and most everyone else on the other. That must be prevented at all costs, even if it means ignoring the Constitution.
Will Red State Secretaries of State have the stones to challenge the next fraudulent applications for Barry to be on the ballot in 2012? Barry and the DNC should be put on notice that ‘next time’ they need to do it right.
That is indeed the crux of the matter. We have been sliding down the slippery slope for years as various courts and legislatures advance convoluted ideas as to what the Constitution says, or if what it says is pretty plain then what does it mean. Like finding a right to privacy in there, and deciding that means the States can't control abortion. Or how about the “shall not be infringed” part. Goodness knows there are jurisdictions all over the country ignoring that one, forcing law-abiding citizens to spends years and small fortunes in court to prevent the infringing the document plainly says will not be.
Now we're at the height of the craziness. Have come to the point where the Constitution means so little that we can't even demand the person who is the President, and swore to uphold the Constitution, demonstrate his eligibility to hold office?
I am reminded of Redd Foxx and his laugh line, “It's the big one!”
Amen!
Yet Obama says he was born in Kapiolani Medical Center for Women & Children.
If he was born in a hospital in 1961 he would have a long form certificate on file in the DOH record.
Given the multiple means that a COLB could be originated, the COLB that he has shown does not conclusively prove that he was born in Hawaii.
At some point the wheels of justice will turn and a judge will rule for discovery and order the long form be made available.
We need to reinstate the Constitution as the law of the land.
I've searched canadafreepress and google but can't find this comment by Obama. Perhaps someone with better search skills could....
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If we continue to ignore the Constitution, we may not have a country in 3 years to riot for or against.
They see what happened in Los Angeles after the Rodney King verdict and the violence that ensued.
Apparently, this is what we need right now. This country slips further into the murky uncharted territories every day. It must stop...before it’s too late. A serious bout of civil unrest might just be the avenue back to sanity.
Maybe it would be. In any case, I believe that there are only two probable scenarios coming down the pike. Submission to a fascist state and rulers, or physical (and probably) armed resistance. I sincerely believe that Hussein and the Dems will not peacefully relinquish power.
During the Town Halls in August, the Dems made it pretty clear they want to foster violence against dissent. And they are doing just that.
That must be prevented at all costs, even if it means ignoring the Constitution.
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Hog slop!
If we lose the Constitution then everything is lost.
And...We have survived civil unrest before. We will again.
Visualizing them is one thing, bringing them to pass is quite another.
Help from the government, or any third party, only works its magic when it's the last thing on the list. Putting it first assures it will never be enough or get the job done.
The quote reference you are asking about from Canada Free Press is here.
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thank you very much
THIS IS CLASS-A BULLS**T !!!
Even if the paper records were destroyed, by Hawaii law they must have a complete electronic copy archived and made available to the public.
Here is the law, form the Hawaii Revised Statutes:
92-31 Disposition of original record. A photograph, microphotograph, reproduction on film, or electronic form of a government record shall be placed in conveniently accessible files and provisions made for preserving, examining, and using the same. Thereafter, a public officer, after having first received the written approval of the comptroller as provided in section 94-3, may cause such record, paper, or document to be destroyed. The comptroller may require, as a prerequisite to the granting of such approval, that a reproduction or print of such photograph, microphotograph, or reproduction on film, or electronic form of the record be delivered into the custody of the public archives for safekeeping. The comptroller may also require the delivery into the custody of another governmental department or agency or a research library of any such record, paper, or document proposed to be destroyed under the provisions of this section.
So, either the original microfiche copy is still available or a complete reproduction of it in electronic form is available. To put something in electronic form and not copy all the data on the original document would be against the law. Where these files have to be accessible and provisions have to be made for examining them, it would be misleading for the Department of Health to say that the information on the original Certificate of Live Birth is no longer available. Under Hawaii Revised Stautes 338-18, those with a direct and tangible interest in the record are permitted inspection of public health statistics records. That would include either the microfiche or electronic copy of the original Certificate of Live Birth.
+1 from this perspective.
But they just burn down their own neighborhoods. The resident Koreans protected the rest.
Maybe he a bstrd of the highest order?
Yes, regardless of where he is born he does not meet the natural born requirement. I have researched this and I have thought long and hard and in my opinion the very fact that the constitution says natural born and not just citizen is proof in itself that Obama does not qualify. My thinking follows.
The only reason to require that a person even be a citizen period is that the founders wanted to be certain that the commander in chief bore no allegiance or obligation of any kind to any other country. This should be self evident, if this was not the reason then it would not matter if the president was here on a green card from some other country. It certainly wouldn’t matter if the president happened to be a naturalized citizen as in the case of Schwartzenegger or Kissinger.
If I am correct about the first point then it should be self evident that natural born citizen had to, at the time the constitution was written, have been accepted as a term meaning both parents had to be American citizens. Otherwise it makes no sense whatsoever. To contend as the leftists do in defense of Obama that natural born status only requires one citizen parent becomes an absurdity. Of what value would it be if it meant that the American president at the time of declaring war on Germany could literally have been the son of an American woman but sired by Adolf Hitler. I see no way around this, if anyone can name a flaw in my reaoning please tell me so.
There is no flaw in your reasoning whatsoever. It makes perfect sense and can be the only explanation.
Otherwise as you correctly pointed out, any enemy of the United States may impregnate an American woman (with or without force) and then attain the Presidency through the resultant offspring.
The unpleasant truth is that when the U.S. attained super power status it became much more likely that our enemies would seek to do what Obama and his handlers have obviously pulled off. Our founders were very wise and understood this and wrote it into the Constitution to prevent any sort of ‘anchor’ baby mentality or duel citizenship nonsense.
The sad thing is the American people understood this as well all the way up to the 20th century when liberals dumbed down the population by taking over the education systems. This would never have been an issue 100 years ago. The people then would have understood the importance and the significance of what might happen if a President were installed having a Kenyan father with allegiance to Great Britain and they would have never voted for him in the first place!
Thanks for the help. I didn't see this in your link.
I don't know whether there was a Q&A at the event; it's possible he's talking about an answer to a question. I also doubt Obama would use those specific words.
In other words, the author of the piece is putting his own spin on either the speech or an answer.
I certainly haven’t seen anything from the Lefty bloggers about that document. You are right: So far, no challenges.
If there have been, I’ve missed them.
Yeah, and they called NOAH a nut too for building a ARK for GOD.
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