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House Democrats considering insurance tax
Associated Press ^ | September 25, 2009 | Erica Werner and Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar

Posted on 09/25/2009 12:42:09 PM PDT by reaganaut1

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To: reaganaut1

Oh hell. Why don’t they just confiscate our paychecks and get it over with.


21 posted on 09/25/2009 1:20:06 PM PDT by kromike
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To: reaganaut1
I advocate for a Representative assessment tax to replace the income tax.

In short, the house (per the Constitution) assess a total amount of tax to be levied at the start of each session of Congress. That amount this then split into two equal parts, Senatorial assessment and the Representative assessment. The Senatorial assessment is then divided by the number of Senatorial seats to obtain the per Senator assessment. Likewise, the Representative assessment is divided by the number of seats in the House to obtain the per Representative assessment.

Each state is then assessed an amount equal to the per Senator amount times the number of Senators plus the per Representative amount times the number of Representatives. With payments due quarterly.

Lastly the enforcement - if a State is not current in all payments, then the state shall not have a vote or representation or committee membership until such time as the State becomes current on all payments.

The states would then be free to tax their citizens in a manner that is agreeable with it's citizens and meets the state's obligations. I would also like to see this combined with a repeal of the 17th Ammendment

22 posted on 09/25/2009 1:21:52 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Personal Responsibility
Their goal is to make people be more “cost conscious health care consumers” which is a pleasant euphemism of “we will make you use less health care”.

But the people that they give it away to, use more of it. My dear 91 year old mother, on medicare, went to the emergency room three times within the last month, twice by ambulance. They found absolutely nothing wrong with her. Mostly she went because my sister and I were on a cruise and she didn't have anybody to drive her around. If she had to pay any portion of it herself, believe me, she would have thought twice, but since it doesn't cost her anything, why not?

23 posted on 09/25/2009 1:22:28 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter(the Godfather of Terror) allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: reaganaut1

I think the Rats have gone insane. They do not get the message that they will be ripped out of office if they pass the health monster law. WE WANT TO BE LEFT ALONE.


24 posted on 09/25/2009 1:23:30 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama installs a fifth column inside the US Government. Why?)
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To: donhunt

And you know these guys are from the schools of the “best and the brightest”. It sure brings one to pause. Those in Washington appear to be operating in a parallel bizzaro world where politicians are trusted and bureaucrats always offer the best most efficient solutions.


25 posted on 09/25/2009 1:26:00 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Party like it's 1776!)
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To: reaganaut1
“House Democrats are considering an insurance tax to help pay for their health care overhaul plan.”

Let me see if I get this.
The Democrats are going to lower our health insurance costs by putting a tax on them?

Is the tax a negative (-) amount?
/s

26 posted on 09/25/2009 1:26:30 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Rapscallion
“WE WANT TO BE LEFT ALONE.”

One can only dream.....

27 posted on 09/25/2009 1:27:34 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Rapscallion

“They do not get the message that they will be ripped out of office if they pass the health monster law.”

...and then the Grand Duchess Pelosy said in a condescending tone, “Let them eat seaweed quiche!.


28 posted on 09/25/2009 1:28:00 PM PDT by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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To: reaganaut1
even though such a funding scheme is bitterly opposed by labor unions that are among the party's most loyal constituencies.

Sounds like a "risky scheme" to me. What say you, Algore???

29 posted on 09/25/2009 1:30:46 PM PDT by ssaftler (OBAMA; One Bad A$$ Move, America!)
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To: w1andsodidwe

That’s exactly the point. Reality gives lie to the claims the liberals make. You can’t offer someone something for free and then claim they will use less of it. Makes no sense at all.


30 posted on 09/25/2009 1:31:25 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: Boardwalk


Top psychiatrist concludes liberals clinically nuts

Eminent psychiatrist makes case ideology is mental disorder
February 15, 2008 
 
WASHINGTON Just when liberals thought it was safe to start identifying themselves as such, an acclaimed,veteran psychiatrist is making the case that the ideology motivating them is actually a mental disorder. 
 
Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded, says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness."   Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave.  
 
While political activists on the other side of the spectrum have made similar observations, Rossiter boasts professional credentials and a life virtually free of activism and links to the vast right-wing conspiracy-  
 
For more than 35 years he has diagnosed and treated more than 1,500 patients as a board-certified clinical psychiatrist and examined more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases as a board-certified forensic psychiatrist.  He received his medical and psychiatric training at the University of Chicago.
 
Rossiter says the kind of liberalism being displayed by the two major candidates for the Democratic Party presidential nomination can only be understood as a psychological disorder.
 

 
Dr. Rossiter says the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:
  • creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
  • satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
  • augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
  • rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government.


31 posted on 09/25/2009 1:33:58 PM PDT by glock rocks (health care, gun safety and climate change are strawmen. It's all about CONTROL.)
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To: reaganaut1

All the RATS think about is another tax and killing old people.


32 posted on 09/25/2009 1:34:53 PM PDT by Waco (OK Libs, stop emiting)
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To: Personal Responsibility
That’s exactly the point. Reality gives lie to the claims the liberals make. You can’t offer someone something for free and then claim they will use less of it. Makes no sense at all.

Exactly. If that was the case...FREE GASOLINE FOR ALL!!!

(It would be good for the environment...)

33 posted on 09/25/2009 1:39:04 PM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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34 posted on 09/25/2009 1:40:28 PM PDT by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . . never whack them with a 2x4 if 4x4 is handy . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: reaganaut1
They really are scraping the bottom now. Is there anything these turds won't do just to be able to say they passed a bill?
35 posted on 09/25/2009 1:45:26 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Love my country. Hate my government./Barack Obama: An authentic "African American.")
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To: reaganaut1
Well so much for the promise during that joke of a campaign where 0bama passionately claimed SO MANY TIMES that “if you make less than $250K then you will not see an increase to your taxes by a single dime”.

Maybe he meant a DIME BAG?

YOU LIE!!!!

36 posted on 09/25/2009 1:46:33 PM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: reaganaut1

Impossible. Hussein promised NONE OF YOUR TAXES will go up.

So when does Hussein make his veto threat?


37 posted on 09/25/2009 1:51:00 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: devolve


The liberal is continually angry, as only a self-important man can be, with his civilization, his culture, his country and his folks back home. His is an infantile world view. At the core of a liberal is the spoiled child -- miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats.

— P. J. O'Rourke

38 posted on 09/25/2009 1:54:06 PM PDT by glock rocks (health care, gun safety and climate change are strawmen. It's all about CONTROL.)
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To: NEMDF
"Well, I expect they will just exempt the unions from anything like this, so it should not be any problem."

I think you are on to something. I am doing this from memory, but I recall a provision in HR3200 that would exempt high cost health care plans from tax or fee provisions if they were a result of collective bargaining agreements signed before some date in 2012.

39 posted on 09/25/2009 1:58:03 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: softwarecreator

The most amazing thing about the 95% tax rate described in “Taxman” (”there’s one for you, nineteen for me”) is that, far from an exaggeration, it was actually *lower* than the actual tax rate on the highest income bracket in the United Kingdom at the time George Harrison wrote the song. Yes, the highest income bracket in the UK paid a 96% income-tax rate in the late 1960s.


40 posted on 09/25/2009 1:59:34 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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