Posted on 09/23/2009 6:31:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Edited on 09/23/2009 8:02:36 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Global Warming: President Obama warns of planetary doom at the U.N. if we fail to pass cap-and-trade legislation. Meanwhile, a former warm-monger predicts decades of cooling as the sun stays nearly "spotless."
The president had hoped to address Tuesday's United Nations climate change summit in New York with a finished cap-and-trade bill. Failing that, he hoped he'd at least have a version of the Waxman-Markey bill that has passed the House on his desk before the Copenhagen talks in December to cobble together a follow-up to the failed Kyoto Protocol.
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Yes, we are in a COOLING TREND NOW.
It’s been going on since the 90’s.
Obama has no credibility and will have less and less as truth prevails. Obama is an EVIL, LIAR and I make NO APOLOGY for THAT FACT.
The hour is late and it may well be he will be forced to go with the legislation still in process, Gore said.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a1cLRPV94TIg
The hour is late because the globull warming fraud is being exposed.
And we have Al Gore's tireless championing of the issue to thank for that.
IT WORKED!
< guffaw >
Then ask them what it was at the Gettysburg address. Or at the Continental Congress. Or during the Battle of Bull Run. And did it rain when the Magna Carta was signed. And then ask them what the weather should've been on those dates.
If they can't answer you, then tell them to get back to you when they can figure out what it should've been.
Al Gore and the other Sky-Is-Falling Climate Changers will claim credit for any cooling trends.
“See, it’s already working!”
This isn’t about the climate and never has been.
This is all about lots and lots of cash and who gets it.
“Decades of Global Cooling Ahead?”
I look forward to E.L.F. blowing up hybrids.
Mankind has always wanted to control the weather. When science discovers it can’t control the weather, they call it climate change and then try to control the people instead.
See tagline.
Stock up on food.
I planted tomatoes and strawberries this year.
I got about a half dozen of both.
I’m bettin’ Algore is buying stock in snowblower mfgrs.....
When you create a phony religion you don’t have to back it up with facts, you just get the cult members to accept it.

Yes, man is dying to play god.
LOL!
It is? Great!
Which of the 20 or so models have settled the science?...we need to stop funding the other 19
“In a speech last week at the U.N.’s World Climate Conference in Geneva, Professor Mojib Latif of Germany’s Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences at Kiel University, one of the world’s foremost climate modelers and a lead author for the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change acknowledged that the Earth has been cooling and is likely to continue that trend for the next couple of decades.”
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Sooo, did this great modeler, predictor of future climate, predict teh decade-long cooling we have NOW, or is he predicting it after the fact?
Consensus must know!
” IT WORKED!
< guffaw >”
Hey, if we all start praising Gore for saving us he’ll respond like a sunflower to light.
Thank you Algor, by urging us to buy Gorebulbs and buy smaller cars, your efforts were enough to turn the deathly heat of global warming downward! Earth is cooling, we are saved! Saved, and all because of you! The entire planet thanks you!
I notice the good professor didn’t appologize for being totally wrong!
Hey, wait just a gosh-darn frickin' minute--I thought the sun has absolutely no influence on the temperature of the planet?! Now they're telling me it does? What will we tell the generation of kids we brainwashed into thinking that daddy's SUV was the culprit?!
“I notice the good professor didnt appologize for being totally wrong!”
Of course not! Tireless work toward global hegemony is not shameful. If the path you chose ends, take another immediately with no regrets.
This new activity indicates that the annual record is probably safe, but there has been a very long period of minimum activity for over 2 years now.
What is interesting about this year's lower average global temperatures is that they have dropped (in most regions) during a mild el Nino. If the sun is indeed beginning to ramp up to the cycle 24 maximum, this will occur along with an la Nina.
The coming years will bring many interesting natural phenomena and climatic results. We should learn a lot about the effects of the sun, ocean currents (simple term for oscillations), and many other natural influencers of temperatures.
But be careful to draw quick conclusions about what impacts climate. Just as the AGW crowd thinks very narrowly re CO2, it would be a mistake to think that there are NOT many other influencers that we have not yet fully explored or don't even yet recognize. For example, has anyone considered solar system cycles, solar system positioning within the galaxy or other astronomical influencers? The answer is “not when it comes to climate modeling”.
In the not to distant future not only will scientist be laughing at how “the consensus” concluded that CO2 was the most important forcer of temperatures (or that it was much important at all), they will be evaluating phenomena that are not even being considered today.
We can influence it. Earth has an iris, made of clouds. We can influence cloud formation and thereby control some of the weather if we want to.
Will they take back the Nobel Prize and the Oscar?
Not since they took the Karl Rove Weather Machine out of commission.
It’s true, we can’t fight the effects of “climate change”....summer has just given way to autumn!
LOL! 'Warm-monger', what an apt description! The sun had TWO, count em, TWO whole sunspots yesterday. Those were the first in 18 days, and we'd had periods of spotlessness for as long as 54 days at a stretch, prior to that. Even the folks at the Farmer's Almanac rely on sunspot info in determining their forecasts, and they say it's gonna be a chilly-willy winter!
Everything has an influence on the weather. Clouds. Sun Humidity. Moon gravitational pull. Certainly those entities are much more vast than the influence of a few humans, or cow farts.
Yeah, we just finished an Ice Age.......
I know!
Lets shoot some particles up into the sky like Obamas commizar suggested,
To Block The Sun!!!!!!
What a great idea!!!!!!
Im sure many people in other countries will thank us for blocking their sun - we only did it to save them from being stupid, right?
Many reasons: as a weapon of war, to improve our quality of life, to save money from cyclone damage, to stop an ice age or hot age. We already control the second half of the rain cycle through dams, lakes, and river control. Very little fresh water makes it back to the sea anymore without us saying where, when, and how much. Controlling the first half of the rain cycle is a logical next step. We can do it cost effectively with local cloud management, but not effectively with global CO2 management.
If I remember correctly, the "official" start of the cooling off cycle was to start in 1998. That means we've still got a lot of cooling coming.
If the liar libs don't grab all the worlds liberties they can now, they're going to have to go back to their "coming ice age" propaganda to deceive the next generation of public school kids.
There's going to be a problem with hybrid seeds. They'll germinate, but they won't bear fruits.
Non hybrids are sold by a company named "Gurneys Heirloom seed Company." These seeds can be saved and used again the following year, too, unlike hybrids.
They need to go on record as to what the OPTIMAL global climate IS since our planet has fluctuated throughout history and PRE-history. And given the fluctuations that man has NOT affected, they need to propose just how drastic man should work to CHANGE “naturally occurring” climate change. And then they need to concretely PROVE that if man MADE it his goal to change annual temperatures by say 5 degrees worldwide within 10 years, that it could even be done.
In the absence of concrete proof that man is even capable of changing the climate significantly, then limits on the actions of man are misdirected and confiscatory.
The leftist aka progressives like to chant conservatives are dumb rednecks. Yet these self proclaimed leftist aka progressives smart guys that believe in evolution are lying. Global warming? Can this be called evolution?
At what impact to persons either at the equator or extreme northern or southern regions?
Who gets to "call" the optimal temperature?
The left is always eager to quote Eisenhower's farewell address when it comes to, "the military industrial complex," but that was only one of two concerns Ike articulated in that speech...
" Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.
In this revolution, research has become central, it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.
Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.
The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.
Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite."
Somehow this part of Eisenhower's address never quite makes it into the leftist mantra....
I cannot speak for other kids.
It's no wonder the U.S. is failing in MATH and SCIENCE amongst the top 30 industrialized countries in the world.
If you listen to the smart growthers, they want everyone out of cars NOW! Too much personal liberty in the freedom of transportation.
Tear down the cities and let them be laid out by city planners and you’ll get a fresh new rat’s nest in a skyrise where you can walk to your cubicle or ride the latest peoplemover.
The Left never liked Ike, they supported Stalin (some openly).
I won’t ever accept their miscasting of his words as “acceptance” of anything he ever had to say.
I can’t speak for anyone else but we have been in a wet cooling cycle here in middle TN for 2 years now.
It is literally killing me. I would be glad to take a tarp loan at 5% over 5 years interest only per year...like a bank.
I own a small chain of car washes/tunnels and our wash days have been decimated by 2/3rds since October 2007.
Brutal.
I prefer Global warming.
Good post. I Like Ike!
Most clouds are local: they exist well below airline cruise altitude and rain out within 20 miles. Each state, tropical, and polar region, can choose their own climate to some degree, and sell higher altitude man-made clouds to their neighbors. Local elected politicians can decide cloud policy much like they already do with water policy. It's obvious we should focus on cloud research instead of CO2 research, but cloud technology offers nothing to advance the UN or socialists. So they pretend clouds aren't even a factor in climate, when in fact they are the main factor, second only to the Sun.
There are several types of clouds. If they are going to claim that a butterfly flapping its wings in Africa leads to hurricanes elsewhere then man made alterations in the weather are going to be cited (right or wrong) for a flash flood someone experiences somewhere in the world.
SirKit and I are suggesting it be called the Algore Minimum, or at least the Hansen-Gore Minimum, to cement, for posterity, the duplicity, if not the stupidity, of those men.
Actually, it was plain and simple weather here in MI.
The plants are JUST getting to the point of producing. My hubby and I are talking about bringing in containers for the winter and letting them continue in the front room of our house.
It’s only used for the cat box and the Christmas tree. It gets lots of sun and can support hanging baskets.
You don't need Reason, when you have an Ideology.
That bears repeating! Eisenhower was very prescient, wasn't he?
Well, with all the money he's made from his share in the profits of the organization that sells Carbon Indulgences, he would have the money to invest.
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