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WHIP COUNT: DEMS LACK THE VOTES
The Drudge Report ^ | Drudge

Posted on 09/09/2009 4:03:47 PM PDT by buccaneer81

WHIP COUNT: DEMS LACK THE VOTES Wed Sep 09 2009 17:03:37 ET

At least 44 more moderate Members of the Democrat Caucus have gone on the record in opposition to the current health care bill in the House, a Hill source claims. Likewise, at least 57 liberal Members of the Democrat Caucus have gone on the record saying they will vote against a health care bill without a strong public option.

Unless multiple Democrats flip on their stated position on health care, Speaker Pelosi lacks the votes to pass a bill through the House on the strength of Democrat votes alone.

(Excerpt) Read more at drudgereport.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bluedogs; duplicate; hr3200; whipcount; wontpass
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1 posted on 09/09/2009 4:03:47 PM PDT by buccaneer81
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I don’t believe it,,it is a fake.

He would not make this speech if he didn’t have to votes.


2 posted on 09/09/2009 4:07:52 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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The downfall of the arrogant is their arrogance.

And boy does the Joker exude arrogance.


3 posted on 09/09/2009 4:09:58 PM PDT by Tarpon (The Joker's plan -- Slavery by debt so large it can never be repaid...)
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I see Baron Hill is on that list. He should not be.

He came as close as he possibly could without actually saying it in his town hall meetings that he WOULD support a bill with the public option.


4 posted on 09/09/2009 4:10:17 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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He would not make this speech if he didn’t have to votes.

Good point.

Although Obama is toast politically if this doesn't pass, he wouldn't beat a dead on national television to exacerbate his political demise.

5 posted on 09/09/2009 4:11:58 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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“Congressman Baron Hill said this morning he would not vote for the health care reform bill in its present form, primarily because he believes it lacks effective health care cost controls. … ‘There are seven of us blue dogs on the committee opposed to the bill in its present form,’ Hill said. ‘We met the last two days drafting amendments to the bill that address the issue of accountability and cost controls.’ Hill said he wants the bill to control costs by shifting the system away from the fee-for-service model, which he says financially rewards doctors and hospitals in direct proportion to the number of procedures they perform. ‘We need to create a medical system that makes sure the patient comes first instead of a system that rewards doctors for overutilizing services,’ he said. ‘That means getting rid of fee-for-service.’
6 posted on 09/09/2009 4:12:39 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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Let’s hope for the best and not let down our guard.

I think the Dems have been spreading a lot of disinformation trying to act more confident than they actually are.

Could Obama be setting himself up for a big blunder? Possibly. But he will put tremendous pressure on Democrats to vote for a bill. And a RINO sellout is always a danger.

Cautious optimism, and continued conservative pressure, is the order of the day.


7 posted on 09/09/2009 4:12:47 PM PDT by cvq3842 (Countless thousands of our ancestors died to give us the freedoms we have today. Stay involved!)
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There is too much wrong in this bill for it to ever be right.

Scrap it all!


8 posted on 09/09/2009 4:13:47 PM PDT by airborne (Don't let history record that, when faced with evil, you did nothing!)
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It's the only thing he knows how to do. Ditto the carbon tax. It's dead.
In just a little over 250 days, America has discovered what a terrible mistake this guy is and even the long-serving Donks don't want to be associated with him.
9 posted on 09/09/2009 4:14:41 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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Interesting, but I’m still very skeptical about him actually voting no if his vote is needed.

Even in that clip, he doesn’t have anything bad to say about the “public option”.


10 posted on 09/09/2009 4:15:54 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: EGPWS
he wouldn't beat a dead on national television to exacerbate his political demise.

Don't be so sure...this is the same guy who ran into the buzz saws of the Cambridge Police, the conservative school districts of America and had a million dollar date night with a WNBA wannabe in NYC.

11 posted on 09/09/2009 4:16:26 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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America has discovered what a terrible mistake this guy is and even the long-serving Donks don't want to be associated with him.

Realization setting in...

Bush = American honest

Obama = anti-American dishonest.

12 posted on 09/09/2009 4:16:52 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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