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McCain: CIA Abuse Probe "Serious Mistake" [says U.S. violated Geneva Convention, tortured detainees]
CBS News / Raw Story ^ | 2009-08-30

Posted on 08/30/2009 10:46:59 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

Says Abuse of Detainees Helped al Qaeda Recruit Terrorists, But Opposes Investigation into "Enhanced" Interrogations.

BY MICHELLE LEVI

Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.) said he thinks it is a "serious mistake" for the administration to focus on the past when investigating the interrogation techniques of the CIA under President Bush on "Face the Nation" Sunday. "For us now to go back, I think, would be a serious mistake.

"I believe that the president was right when he said we ought to go forward and not back. I worry about the morale and effectiveness of the CIA. I worry about this thing getting out of control," the Arizona senator said.

On "Fox News Sunday," former Vice Former Vice President Dick Cheney said that the president's decision to appoint a special prosecutor to review the Bush administration's interrogation strategies "offended the hell" out of him.

McCain admitted that he was "radically opposed" to the interrogation techniques of the former administration and said, "I think it harmed us."

Host Bob Schieffer asked if the senator agreed with Vice President Cheney that the interrogations produced helpful information for the United States in fighting terrorism.

"I think these interrogations once publicized helped al-Qaeda recruit. I got that from an al Qaeda operative in a prison camp in Iraq," McCain said. "I think the ability to work with our allies was harmed."

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Raw Story reports one McCain quote from his appearance on CBS this morning:

“I think the interrogations were in violation of the Geneva Conventions and the convention against torture that we ratified under President Reagan,” McCain told CBS’ Bob Schieffer Sunday.

http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/30/mccain-torture-violated-law/

1 posted on 08/30/2009 10:47:00 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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Well, he did say that he wanted to apply all of the "lessons" Ted Kennedy had taught him...

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2 posted on 08/30/2009 10:48:30 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (May God save the American Republic.)
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To: rabscuttle385
STFU McLoser and RETIRE!
3 posted on 08/30/2009 10:49:51 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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To: rabscuttle385
Ugh...

STFU Juan!

4 posted on 08/30/2009 10:50:10 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: rabscuttle385
McCain doesn't get it.

POW status is an honor. Pirates and criminals, out of uniform, deliberately violating international law, do NOT deserve POW status.

Therefore, the Geneva Conventions barely apply here, if at all!

5 posted on 08/30/2009 10:50:49 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: rabscuttle385

Poor Cindy!


6 posted on 08/30/2009 10:52:17 AM PDT by Paperdoll (Tagline applied for)
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To: rabscuttle385
I wonder if that stupid SOB ever thinks about what he is saying or if he's just parrots anything that will get him air time and pats on the back at the demonrat champagne socials
7 posted on 08/30/2009 10:52:39 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: Kansas58

McCain: The “Hanoi Candidate”, now fully activated.


8 posted on 08/30/2009 10:52:55 AM PDT by dtrpscout (A bad dog is better than most good people.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Yet more evidence that the GOP really screwed up when it nominated McCain. Someone needs to ask McCain exactly when the Taliban and Al Quaida signed the Geneva Convention and where in the Geneva Convention it approved of hijacking civilian aircraft and flying them into buildings. Where in the Geneva Convention it OKs sawing off the heads of captives and distributing videos of it and where it approves of dragging the mutilated bodies of captives and KIAs through the streets.
9 posted on 08/30/2009 10:55:25 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: VRWC For Truth

McLoser is responsible for this so called probe. Siding with the enemy on torture from the beginning.

Wish I had my vote back. Of course I voted for Palin.


10 posted on 08/30/2009 10:55:59 AM PDT by streetsmart
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To: rabscuttle385

Meghan’s Dad is irrelevant.


11 posted on 08/30/2009 10:56:48 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Kansas58

They have no uniform. They are not part of any nation’s armed forces, let alone another signatory to the Geneva Convention. They are not POW’s. They are not protected by the Geneva Convention. End of story.


12 posted on 08/30/2009 11:00:37 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: streetsmart

street
me too , I want my vote back. but NOT to vote for barry.

McCain says he “ got it from an prisoner in Iraq that our EIT recruited more al Q. Well THAT prisoner got it from Al Jazeera who got it from Durbin. Murtha Reid or Piglosi.

Good lord mccain needs to stfu


13 posted on 08/30/2009 11:01:07 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: rabscuttle385

We need to either focus on a new party or vote the RINOS out

they are as bad as the enemy


14 posted on 08/30/2009 11:04:21 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Kansas58; rabscuttle385
McCain's memory is apparently failing him.

The specific articles of the Geneva convention recognizing rights for "non-uniformed" combatants -- i.e. terrorists -- are contained in the 1977 Protocol II of the Geneva Convention. That Protocol was not signed by Reagan, but by Jimmy Carter. However, it has never been ratified by the Senate and is therefore not part of US Law.

Reagan was under very heavy international pressure to re-sign and bring the ratification vote. He refused to do so.

It is interesting that McCain thinks these techniques damaged our international standing and violated the Protocol II of the convention; there are accounts that several signators (one of them is Great Britain) use far more strenuous techniques on foreign prisoners than we do. The Muslim countries who accept Renditions are, I believe, all signers of the Protocol. So McCain is blaming the US for being better followers of a treaty that we did not even sign than many of our allies and cooperators are.

For anyone who thinks McCain has changed, this is more proof. We need to get this menace voted out of the Senate once and for all.

15 posted on 08/30/2009 11:04:58 AM PDT by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47. In leather.)
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To: wardaddy

I’ll second that. How can we expect the GOP to save us from the communist when they can’t even save themselves?

Only Sarah and maybe a very few others give me hope.


16 posted on 08/30/2009 11:06:40 AM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Actually, as far as Canada is concerned, they are. But as a former proud Canadian, you can be proud of the fact that as far as America is concerned, they are not. See my previous post.
17 posted on 08/30/2009 11:06:59 AM PDT by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47. In leather.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

And while we blow cigar smoke in their faces, conduct mock executions, lie to them, dunk water on their faces he considers that torture.

decapitations, hanging charred bodies of our military from bridges, targeting civilians and hiding within civilians while firing at our Military, has got to be acceptable to him and worthy of Geneva Convention rights.


18 posted on 08/30/2009 11:11:09 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: dfwgator

I knew a few now-deceased POWs from WWII, and I can tell you with certainty what they would have thought, said and done about such treasonous and seditious criticism. McCain is a brainwashed “Hanoi Candidate”, now fully activated, and needs to be in a secure mental institution, not the Senate.


19 posted on 08/30/2009 11:11:23 AM PDT by dtrpscout (A bad dog is better than most good people.)
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To: Natural Law
The GOP might have been quiescent in McCain's nomination, but the media and the stupid primary setup really nominated him.

How he and others can call the intensive interrogatiion, USED ONLY ON A HANDFUL OF TOP detainees TORTURE beats me. Discomfort--yes; scary--yes; torture--NO!NO!NO!!!

Torture=physical harm such as beating, maiming, pulling finger nails, starving, --how about decapitating?

Now, about how much I care about these NON-COVERED BY GENEVA, UN-UNIFORMED, CAUGHT ON THE BATTLEFIELD HARMING US OR ALLIES TERRORISTS being grilled with sleep deprivation, water boarding, etc.===I do NOT care at all. I APPROVE methods used. These people are enemies of western civilization, not just the US. What is all the fuss about except for use as a political football to appease the ultra, off the left side of earth leftists.

For the very few cases that exceeded guidelines, I believe they have already been punished.

Lord, how I wish McCain could get a clue as to what world we now reside in.

Jimmie Carter never met a dictator/terrorist he didn't love and approve.

McCain never met a Jimmuh Cartuh Democrat he didn't love and approve.

vaudine

20 posted on 08/30/2009 11:12:10 AM PDT by vaudine
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