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I listed the high points. I MAY have missed some important stuff, but what I have listed here is enough to make any American citizens' blood boil:

1.) If you are a US citizen and born in the US (or one who immigrated here legally), you HAVE to have acceptable health insurance or you will pay a fine.

2.) Illegal aliens are exempt from this fine and do not have to have "acceptable" health insurance.

3.) Illegal aliens, while exempt from the fine and exempt from having to carry acceptable health insurance, can, nonetheless, participate in a Health Insurance Exchange, whether they be here temporarily or permanently.

4.) Since there is no enforcement mechanism (Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE)) within H.R. 3200 that would verify citizenship status, the Commissioner would determine the mechanism for verifying eligibility of illegal aliens in the Health Insurance Exchange to receive credits.

5.) There is no enforcement mechanism in HR 3200 to keep illegal aliens from receiving the credits. The Commissioner will decide the eligibility of illegal aliens to get these credits.

1 posted on 08/27/2009 1:09:06 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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What say you?


2 posted on 08/27/2009 1:09:39 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The McCain amendment?


4 posted on 08/27/2009 1:20:40 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

What exactly is the “Congressional Research Service”?


5 posted on 08/27/2009 1:21:51 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

bump


8 posted on 08/27/2009 1:24:42 PM PDT by gibsosa
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

obamathefalsemessiah is on vacation nothing to see here move along.


11 posted on 08/27/2009 1:39:27 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Its not about health care or insurance...ITS ABOUT GOVERNMENT POWER OVER YOU!


14 posted on 08/27/2009 1:48:31 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

House Bill 676 is a bill that as an amendment to House Bill 3200 will make health care single payer and lots of taxes, not to mention it will cover illegal aliens.
It is called : United States National Health Care Act or the Expanded and Improved Medicare for All Act (Introduced in House) [H.R.676.IH]
Here is the link:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.676.IH:

The bill - the Wainer amendment-will replace division A of House Bill 3200

It will make it a single payer plan, publicly financed privately delivered public health system delivered to all residents - every person in US and territory will receive a Health Insurance card and ID number.
How to pay for it:
modest payroll 3.3% and employers 3.3%
5% tax on top 5%
small tax on bond & stock transfers
Closing tax loopholes and repealing the Bush tax rules

The details above may have been paraphrased, so you will want to research this.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.676.IH:


15 posted on 08/27/2009 1:50:14 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Who needs the CRS? What do they know about the intricacies of legislation anyway? We've got the completely unbiased Annenberg funded FactCheck.org to set us straight.

_____________________________________________________

False: Illegal Immigrants Will Be Covered

One Republican congressman issued a press release claiming that "5,600,000 Illegal Aliens May Be Covered Under Obamacare," and we’ve been peppered with queries about similar claims. They’re not true. In fact, the House bill (the only bill to be formally introduced in its entirety) specifically says that no federal money would be spent on giving illegal immigrants health coverage:

H.R. 3200: Sec 246 — NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS

Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.

Also, under current law, those in the country illegally don’t qualify for federal health programs. Of interest: About half of illegal immigrants have health insurance now, according to the nonpartisan Pew Hispanic Center, which says those who lack insurance do so principally because their employers don’t offer it.

"Misleading GOP Health Care Claims" July 23

16 posted on 08/27/2009 1:50:31 PM PDT by Plutarch
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What a deal!

In HR 3200:

1.) There is no enforcement mechanism to verify who is and isn't an illegal alien.

SAVE and IEVS are already used by the federal government to verify citizenship status and income eligibility for federal programs. Dean Heller (R-NV) wanted those in his amendment. Democrats defeated Heller's amendment in the House Ways & Means Committee on a party line, 26-15 vote. Democrats also defeated a similar amendment to verify citizenship status in the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

2.) If illegals don't want health insurance they aren't required to get “acceptable” health insurance, but US citizens are. They won't pay a fine, but US citizens will.

3.) Taxpayer funded, income-based credits for poor people to participate in the Health Insurance Exchange will end up in the hands of illegals because there is no mechanism (like SAVE) within HR 3200 to verify citizenship status.

21 posted on 08/27/2009 2:28:17 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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Didn’t Obama say that “Nobody has talked about giving health insurance to illegal immigrants”?

This report makes a liar out of Obama.


24 posted on 08/27/2009 3:16:47 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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