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Obama Leads Palin by 23 Points, 61 Percent of Americans Say Resignation Hurt Her Chances
Washington Independent ^ | 8/18/09 | David Weigel

Posted on 08/18/2009 12:30:26 PM PDT by steve-b

Even as the president’s approval rating slips, Republicans looking to beat him in 2012 — one of their frontrunners, one-time governor of Alaska Sarah Palin, might be unelectable. A new Marist Poll gives President Obama a 56-33 lead over Palin among registered voters, with the president taking 20 percent of Republican voters and easily winning independents. But Palin’s favorable rating with registered Republicans is still a very strong 73-16.

In the South, Obama’s lead is a slimmer 49-38, and post-”Beerfest” Obama only leads by 10 points among white voters. But everywhere else, and among every other demographic group, he dominates Palin.

Marist asked about Palin’s resignation — she’s been a former governor for a month now — in a meta way, taking stock of whether voters thought “will help or hurt her running for president in 2012.” Sixty-one percent of all voters, and 50 percent of Republicans, say it will hurt her.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2009polls; palin; palin2012; palinresignation
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1 posted on 08/18/2009 12:30:27 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: steve-b

Gee, isn’t this poll a little... fishy?


2 posted on 08/18/2009 12:32:30 PM PDT by coydog (Time to feed the pigs!)
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To: steve-b

Well guess we’ve lost the election. No point in voting now.

Obama’s kind of election.


3 posted on 08/18/2009 12:32:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: steve-b

If you believe this, I want you to know I have a special BOGO on bridges this week only!


4 posted on 08/18/2009 12:33:18 PM PDT by Radagast the Fool ("Mexico-Beirut with tacos!"--Dr. Zoidberg)
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To: steve-b

Sarah will make her move when she is ready. The polls will not dictate.


5 posted on 08/18/2009 12:33:38 PM PDT by maxter (Give today a chance. Enjoy.)
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To: steve-b

More bogus polling that means zilch at this juncture.

published by either push polling liberals or Mitten Kittens.....


6 posted on 08/18/2009 12:34:18 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: steve-b

Not to give you and your allies a boner or anything, but maybe we can wheel out the formidable Bob Dole to run again.


7 posted on 08/18/2009 12:34:29 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: coydog

Ummmmmmmmmm.......Is Sarah running against Obama now?


8 posted on 08/18/2009 12:34:31 PM PDT by RC2 (Support Glen Beck)
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To: steve-b

LOL


9 posted on 08/18/2009 12:34:34 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Radagast the Fool

Yeah, kinda odd that they are having a poll about a PRIVATE CITIZEN. The way Obama is looking now, Bart Simpson can beat him by a landslide in 2012


10 posted on 08/18/2009 12:34:52 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: steve-b

Wonder why the obamedia ran this poll??

Pray for America


11 posted on 08/18/2009 12:35:12 PM PDT by bray (He's a Divider not a Uniter)
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To: astyanax

Warning: Steve-b postings are hazardous to your IQ.


12 posted on 08/18/2009 12:35:44 PM PDT by frogjerk (Obama Administration: Security thru Absurdity)
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To: steve-b

They must have polled the visitors in the NBC gift shop - the one with all the obozo merchandise.


13 posted on 08/18/2009 12:36:08 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: steve-b

is she running NOW? Another idiotic “poll”. What did Marist poll use as methodology...shooting darts at a dartboard and whatever number comes up that’s Obeyme’s lead? Gimme a break..


14 posted on 08/18/2009 12:36:25 PM PDT by max americana (i)
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To: steve-b

Yawn. More feces from our resident Palin-hater.


15 posted on 08/18/2009 12:36:59 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sarah Palin will soon have more fans on Facebook than most major newspapers have readers.)
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To: maxter

while i would never vote for Obama, and would happily vote for Sarah, i too think her resignation hurt her chances... more than that, her running as JMc’s VP hurt her chances... i thought it was too soon for her to make her national debut... i wish she would have waited until the next cycle...


16 posted on 08/18/2009 12:37:01 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: coydog
Gee, isn’t this poll a little... fishy?

Why, show me a poll that does not have that 20 to 21% no support number.

17 posted on 08/18/2009 12:37:08 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: steve-b

Politics is like beer.

If one candidate is Budwiser, another is Alaskan Amber, and another is Guinnes, which would get the most votes as “best”?

Is there any doubt it would be the Bud?

But Bud is bland - and that is the point. A strong flavor is excellent to some but if you don’t like it, you REALLY do not like it. So bland wins. Same with Domino’s pizza.

As long as this government exists in it’s current form, our leaders will be examples of Bud lite, untl the huns storm the gates and we are forced to hit the reset button.

And bud lite leaders tend to be rather incompetent, which only hastens the day.


18 posted on 08/18/2009 12:37:20 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: steve-b

Geeze, you post as much downgrading drivel about Sarah as GGG does about Creationism.


19 posted on 08/18/2009 12:37:48 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Brevity: Saying a lot, while saying very little.)
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To: steve-b
What the hell? Sarah is not running for a damn thing but somehow this is goning to make zerø look good?

Who thought this insanity up?

20 posted on 08/18/2009 12:38:15 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: steve-b

Good grief, we had a presidential election just nine months ago. The time for announcing candidacies and all for 2012 is still more than a year away and they’re already doing polls.


21 posted on 08/18/2009 12:38:18 PM PDT by Rodebrecht (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: steve-b

Yeah and her two words “Death Panel” changed the biggest bill you dims could come up with.

Scared little chickens


22 posted on 08/18/2009 12:38:32 PM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (We the people, ..... never)
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To: steve-b

I would think it highly suspect if any candidate would be ahead of Obama this early in his Presidency. Almost 30 months until the primary selection process begins....... Ups and downs will occur and who knows which candidates will emerge as the strongest on the GOP side.


23 posted on 08/18/2009 12:38:35 PM PDT by deport
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To: steve-b

Too many people think what the mainstream media tells them they should think. Especially when they answer questions from pollsters.


24 posted on 08/18/2009 12:38:47 PM PDT by sourcery (Obama Lied. The Economy Died!)
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To: steve-b

Are you a troll from the DU?


25 posted on 08/18/2009 12:38:55 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO - No socialist Bureaucrat on a Death Panel is going to decide whether I live or die!)
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To: steve-b
. . . 20% of Republicans would vote for Obama over Palin.

Ok.

26 posted on 08/18/2009 12:40:37 PM PDT by Rocco DiPippo
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To: steve-b

The fear of Sarah continues unabated in the MSM.


27 posted on 08/18/2009 12:41:18 PM PDT by Left2Right ("Starve the Beast!")
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To: Radagast the Fool
Sarah will do better than McNut did but I don't think she can win. She has my vote but quitting the Governorship didn't set right with me either.Maybe VP with a strong male ultra conservative as P.
28 posted on 08/18/2009 12:41:22 PM PDT by fish hawk (Lord, help us to attain knowledge and the wisdom to apply it toward your ultimate will.)
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To: maxter

Yes, the POTUS And leader of the free world has a 23 point lead over a private citizen who occasionally posts on Facebook. How impressive. /s


29 posted on 08/18/2009 12:41:24 PM PDT by joejm65
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To: max americana
When the poll says Obama’s tanking, it's touted as gospel. Anything critical of Palin must be suspect. lol!!

Sorry, quitting your job as governor because it got too tough is a tough sell to any electorate if you want to be CIC.

Palin has the same cult following as BHO. I am not defending the left’s treatment of her, or the fact that the press took an interest in every little story, true or not, regarding her and ignored Hussein's past, but i do believe if the election was held today, Hussein would trounce Palin.

A few years from now may be a different story, however.

30 posted on 08/18/2009 12:42:18 PM PDT by lakertaker (Democratic Party Economic plan: Declare all those who hate higher taxes as unpatriotic)
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To: RC2

0bama was campaigning against HER in 2008 - as soon as she entered the race, 0bama recognized who his real opponent, the real threat, was.

And the media treated her as the front runner as well.


31 posted on 08/18/2009 12:42:40 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: cripplecreek

Yep, we’re beat. Let’s go shopping!


32 posted on 08/18/2009 12:43:47 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: frogjerk
"Warning: Steve-b postings are hazardous to your IQ."
LOL! I can feel the neurons misfiring every time I see his name.
33 posted on 08/18/2009 12:44:15 PM PDT by astyanax (I'm here to spread peace, love and happiness... so get the f*#% out of my way.)
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To: steve-b

87% of all statistics are made up on the spot (like this one)


34 posted on 08/18/2009 12:44:21 PM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: steve-b
In the South, Obama’s lead is a slimmer 49-38, and post-”Beerfest” Obama only leads by 10 points among white voters”

Chortle!
Stopped right there.
Yet another laughably fraudulent push poll, trotted out on cue to give desperate 0bamabots some talking points to defend themselves with, at a time when 0bama’s poll numbers are tanking on all fronts.

Let's just have a look at Marist poll's performance from the 2008 elections shall we?

The following list ranks the 23 organizations by the accuracy of their final, national preelection polls (as reported on pollster.com).

1. Rasmussen (11/1-3)**
1. Pew (10/29-11/1)**
2. YouGov/Polimetrix (10/18-11/1)
3. Harris Interactive (10/20-27)
4. GWU (Lake/Tarrance) (11/2-3)*
5. Diageo/Hotline (10/31-11/2)*
5. ARG (10/25-27)*
6. CNN/Opinion Research (10/30-11/1)
6. Ipsos/McClatchy (10/30-11/1)
7. DailyKos.com (D)/Research 2000 (11/1-3)
8. AP/Yahoo/KN (10/17-27)
9. Democracy Corps (D) (10/30-11/2)
10. FOX News/Opinion Dynamics (11/1-2)
11. Economist/YouGov (10/25-27)
12. IBD/TIPP (11/1-3)
13. NBC/WSJ (11/1-2)
14. ABC/Washington Post (10/30-11/2)
15. Marist College (11/3)
16. CBS (10/31-11/2)
17. Gallup (10/31-11/2)
18. Reuters/ C-SPAN/ Zogby (10/31-11/3)
19. CBS/NY Times (10/25-29)
20. Newsweek (10/22-23)
http://race42008.com/2008/11/06/poll-accuracy-in-the-race-4-2008/

Marist was 6th from the bottom. ‘nough said.

35 posted on 08/18/2009 12:44:44 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: steve-b

blah blah blah ....death care panels anyone?


36 posted on 08/18/2009 12:46:03 PM PDT by the long march
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To: steve-b

BS.


37 posted on 08/18/2009 12:46:17 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: EyeGuy
Not to give you and your allies a boner or anything

ROFL

38 posted on 08/18/2009 12:46:37 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("It (Gov't) can't make you happier, healthier, wealthier, and wise" - Sarah Palin 07/26)
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To: BornToBeAmerican
The bill has only been changed in your mine, the White house said so in it's briefing minutes ago.
39 posted on 08/18/2009 12:46:49 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: steve-b
with the president taking 20 percent of Republican voters

that statement right there tells you this poll smells....

40 posted on 08/18/2009 12:46:55 PM PDT by HalfFull ("Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?" -PHenry)
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To: latina4dubya
The biggest thing hurting Sarah is what I call the "catty" factor-- women who will vote against her for no other reason than jealousy. She's smart. She's beautiful. She has a family and a career. Nobody handed her anything.

Given the likelihood of more lost jobs, investment losses and another 9-11 style attack which ObaMao is inviting with his Carteresque policies, it is only a matter of timing and degree before some of these women begin to abandon catty jealousy in favor of any alternative to ObaMao.

41 posted on 08/18/2009 12:47:24 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Pistolshot; steve-b

Rasmussen oustanding, Marist, not so much...

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2009/08/republicands-now-up-by-5-in-generic.html


42 posted on 08/18/2009 12:47:51 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: steve-b

Unlike some here, I do appreciate your posts steve-b. At the very least we know what the other side is thinking. We need as much intel as we can get.

We can debate the ins and outs of whose the better candidate, but we must always be cognizant of what the other side is thinking. Without a doubt, the MSM will start using this poll to attack Palin, yet again. We can expect Brooks and Frum to jump on this, like good little rinos that they are. But we have to know what they are thinking and how they will attack.


43 posted on 08/18/2009 12:49:51 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative (A Blue Dog Democrat is an oxyMoron!)
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To: steve-b
with the president taking 20 percent of Republican voters and easily winning independents. But Palin’s favorable rating with registered Republicans is still a very strong 73-16.

You cant possibly buy this. Some Republicans who like Palin would actually vote for Obama ??

44 posted on 08/18/2009 12:49:53 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: steve-b
The details in part

  Registered Voters
If the 2012 presidential election were held today, whom would you support if the candidates are:
Barack Obama, the Democratic candidate Sarah Palin, the Republican candidate Unsure
Row % Row % Row %
Registered Voters 56% 33% 11%
Party ID Democrat 92% 4% 4%
Republican 20% 73% 7%
Independent 49% 34% 17%
Region Northeast 67% 24% 9%
Midwest 62% 32% 6%
South 49% 38% 13%
West 55% 33% 12%
Household Income Less than $50,000 57% 30% 12%
$50,000 or more 58% 34% 8%
Education Not college graduate 53% 34% 13%
College graduate 62% 30% 7%
Race White 50% 40% 10%
African American 99% 1% 0%
Latino 62% 27% 11%
Age 18 to 29 69% 27% 4%
30 to 44 58% 30% 12%
45 to 59 55% 36% 9%
60 or older 51% 36% 13%
Gender Men 54% 36% 10%
Women 58% 30% 11%
Marist Poll National Registered Voters "N=854 MOE +/- 3.5%" Totals may not add to 100 due to rounding.

  Republicans Including Republican Leaning Independents
If the 2012 Republican presidential primary were held today, whom would you support if the candidates are:
Newt Gingrich Mike Huckabee Bobby Jindal Sarah Palin Tim Pawlenty Mitt Romney Unsure
Row % Row % Row % Row % Row % Row % Row %
Republicans Including Republican Leaning Independents 10% 19% 5% 20% 1% 21% 24%
Household Income Less than $50,000 10% 20% 7% 20% 1% 18% 24%
$50,000 or more 11% 17% 5% 18% 0% 29% 19%
Education Not college graduate 9% 22% 5% 21% 1% 18% 24%
College graduate 13% 13% 6% 16% 1% 28% 23%
Age Under 45 5% 24% 5% 19% 0% 19% 28%
45 or older 14% 16% 5% 20% 1% 22% 22%
Gender Men 12% 16% 6% 18% 1% 29% 18%
Women 8% 22% 4% 21% 1% 14% 30%
Marist Poll National Republicans Including Republican Leaning Independents "N=310 MOE +/- 5.5%" Totals may not add to 100 due to rounding.

  Registered Voters
Do you think Sarah Palin's decision to resign as governor of Alaska before her term was up will help or hurt her running for president in 2012?
Help Hurt Makes no difference Unsure
Row % Row % Row % Row %
Registered Voters 15% 61% 11% 13%
Party ID Democrat 9% 69% 9% 13%
Republican 20% 51% 12% 17%
Independent 17% 61% 12% 10%
Region Northeast 17% 59% 6% 17%
Midwest 13% 64% 12% 11%
South 16% 60% 13% 11%
West 14% 58% 12% 16%
Household Income Less than $50,000 13% 60% 11% 16%
$50,000 or more 16% 63% 11% 10%
Education Not college graduate 14% 58% 13% 15%
College graduate 15% 67% 9% 9%
Race White 14% 64% 11% 11%
African American 15% 58% 5% 22%
Latino 15% 52% 19% 14%
Age 18 to 29 5% 81% 6% 8%
30 to 44 13% 64% 10% 13%
45 to 59 21% 55% 13% 11%
60 or older 15% 54% 15% 16%
Gender Men 18% 59% 11% 12%
Women 13% 62% 12% 14%
Marist Poll National Registered Voters "N=854 MOE +/- 3.5%" Totals may not add to 100 due to rounding.

  Registered Voters
Overall, do you have a favorable or unfavorable impression of Sarah Palin. If you are unsure how to rate her or have never heard of her, please say so.
Favorable Unfavorable Unsure/Never heard of
Row % Row % Row %
Registered Voters 37% 43% 20%
Party ID Democrat 11% 71% 18%
Republican 73% 16% 12%
Independent 36% 37% 26%
Region Northeast 27% 51% 22%
Midwest 34% 47% 20%
South 46% 35% 20%
West 33% 47% 20%
Household Income Less than $50,000 35% 41% 25%
$50,000 or more 38% 48% 14%
Education Not college graduate 39% 36% 26%
College graduate 33% 56% 11%
Race White 42% 43% 15%
African American 11% 47% 42%
Latino 29% 51% 21%
Age 18 to 29 31% 52% 18%
30 to 44 32% 48% 20%
45 to 59 40% 38% 22%
60 or older 40% 39% 21%
Gender Men 43% 40% 17%
Women 31% 46% 23%
Marist Poll National Registered Voters "N=854 MOE +/- 3.5%" Totals may not add to 100 due to rounding.


45 posted on 08/18/2009 12:49:58 PM PDT by deport
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To: lakertaker

of course the resignation hurt her. and she has to do a lot more than post on facebook. A lot more. Katy Abram is on Hannity even more than Palin.


46 posted on 08/18/2009 12:50:10 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama acted stupidly...and that's after knowing all the facts.)
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To: steve-b
I believe Sarah Palin got more votes than I did. - John McCain
47 posted on 08/18/2009 12:50:20 PM PDT by McGruff (We have the right to debate and disagree with any administration - Hillary Clinton)
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To: steve-b
There really should be a requirement on FR that internals must be posted with all "polling" news. From the survey:

Nature of the Sample: 938 U.S. Residents

This survey of 938 United States residents was conducted on August 3rd through August 6th, 2009. Residents 18 years of age and older were interviewed by telephone. Telephone numbers were selected based upon a list of telephone exchanges from throughout the nation. The exchanges were selected to ensure that each region was represented in proportion to its population. To increase coverage, this land-line sample was supplemented by respondents reached through random dialing of cell phone numbers. The two samples were then combined. Results are statistically significant at ±3.2%. There are 854 registered voters. The results for this subset are statistically significant at ±3.5%. There are 310 Republicans Including Republican Leaning Independents. The results for this subset are statistically significant at ±5.5%. The error margin increases for cross-tabulations.

This means the other 67% polled are left leaning "maybe" voters. Why would you post a junk poll?
48 posted on 08/18/2009 12:50:22 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: Deb
Yep, we’re beat. Let’s go shopping!

I HOPE Obozo will can spare us some CHANGE.
49 posted on 08/18/2009 12:50:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek
re: No point in voting now

I agree! In fact, why don't we save everyone a lot of money and trouble, and just not have an election at all? Obviously this poll proves beyond a doubt that The One is the one. Why go through the charade of those expensive conventions and primary elections and all that hoopla. And since Obama has a veto proof majority in both houses why don't we just send Congress home until Jan. of 2017. Just think of all the money we would be saving, not to mention being spared all the news about their ‘work’ and ‘deliberations’. Hey, I think you're on to something here! </sarc>

50 posted on 08/18/2009 12:50:46 PM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America, and wake us up while you're about it!)
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