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Psychologists repudiate gay-to-straight therapy (BARF Alert!)
AP-Yahoo! ^ | 5 Aug 2009 | DAVID CRARY

Posted on 08/05/2009 2:34:41 PM PDT by greatdefender

NEW YORK – The American Psychological Association declared Wednesday that mental health professionals should not tell gay clients they can become straight through therapy or other treatments.

Instead, the APA urged therapists to consider multiple options — that could range from celibacy to switching churches — for helping clients whose sexual orientation and religious faith conflict.

In a resolution adopted on a 125-to-4 vote by the APA's governing council, and in a comprehensive report based on two years of research, the 150,000-member association put itself firmly on record in opposition of so-called "reparative therapy" which seeks to change sexual orientation.

No solid evidence exists that such change is likely, says the report, and some research suggests that efforts to produce change could be harmful, inducing depression and suicidal tendencies.

The APA had criticized reparative therapy in the past, but a six-member task force added weight to this position by examining 83 studies on sexual orientation change conducted since 1960. Its comprehensive report was endorsed by the APA's governing council in Toronto, where the association's annual meeting is being held this weekend.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: apa; exgays; exodusinternational; gayagenda; homosexualagenda; psychology; treatment
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1 posted on 08/05/2009 2:34:41 PM PDT by greatdefender
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To: greatdefender

Do psychologists offer a straight-to-gay guideline? (Sarcasm).


2 posted on 08/05/2009 2:36:24 PM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the world dances with you...)
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To: greatdefender

Yeah. I’m actually in support of this. If we start normalizing therapy to change sexual orientation it’s only a matter of time until people start talking about straight to gay therapy for “repressed” children and adults. Or straight to a “happier, more natural, and well adjusted bi-sexuality” for people. I’d rather leave the lid on this bowl of fish and say that people should work this out for themselves without psychologists poking their brains.


3 posted on 08/05/2009 2:38:25 PM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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To: greatdefender

No one bats an eye when a straight guy goes gay but the thought of a gay guy going straight drives them bonkers.


4 posted on 08/05/2009 2:39:23 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: greatdefender

Whatever happened to the human will? Oh, that’s right there is no such thing. Sorry, forgot.


5 posted on 08/05/2009 2:42:39 PM PDT by mdk1960
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To: TomOnTheRun
... I’d rather leave the lid on this bowl of fish and say that people should work this out for themselves without psychologists poking their brains.....

Too late for that. The drive to normalize homosexual sex started with pressuring the APA (American Psychiatric Association) to remove homosexuality from their diagnostic manual.

Homosexuality was correctly (in my opinion) described as an abnormality or disorder to be treated. The homosexuals are the ones that pressured the APA into removing it from their DSM.

6 posted on 08/05/2009 2:54:02 PM PDT by AreaMan
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To: greatdefender; Maelstorm; wagglebee; DirtyHarryY2K
No solid evidence exists that such change is likely, says the report, and some research suggests that efforts to produce change could be harmful, inducing depression and suicidal tendencies.

What they are actually seeing is that when a depressed person faces the negative conditions of their life and realizes that their headlong escape into the gay life is not "fixing" the depression, they start to recognize that they are depressed, and have been for years. Now that they are facing the horror of their situation, suicide may seem more attractive than years of effort to grow out of the pain that led them to choose high-risk sex in the first place. This is the place where real healing can begin, if the therapist can offer support and hope. But not if the therapist is determined to blame society and religion in order to keep the person in a pit of self-destructive sexual acting-out, rather than risk failure and back-sliding.

Besides, unhappy gay people are more lucrative than purposefully healing people.

No one can change deeply ingrained habits overnight. But being in the arts, I have known many gay people and I have actually seen people who have left it all behind over a period of years, with effort.

Sounds like the therapists have the agenda here.

7 posted on 08/05/2009 2:56:03 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Media: quit making things up." --Sarah Palin)
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To: AreaMan
I understand what you say ... but I mean that I don't think psychologist should be involved in sexual orientation therapy of any sort. Gay-toStraight - Straight-to-Gay - Anything-to-Anything. There is just waaaay too much area for abuse when you start having psychologists poke around in somebody elses brain to help make difficult decisions like this for their patient. I think it WILL be abused. I can already see a confused "repressed" child being guided into homosexuality. Or that a sizeable number of pshrinks deciding that bi-sexuality would be healthier and more nautral for people in general.

I would keep this lid shut.
8 posted on 08/05/2009 2:57:52 PM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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To: greatdefender

These ghey boys are unable to handle rejection. They can’t stand it when one of their own dumps ‘em like a bad bowel movement. Wouldn’t be surprised if the APA offers therapy guidelines for the gheys who hate being left behind by those who choose to become normal.


9 posted on 08/05/2009 3:04:07 PM PDT by Vision Thing (He has a white house, and he wants to paint it black.)
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To: TomOnTheRun
I think I understand your point.

Nevertheless, what you fear is already common practice. You can find psychologists and psychiatrists to encourage whatever sexual practice you "feel" like indulging. Hypersexuality, Asexuality, Bisexuality, etc.

I think it is a good thing for shrinks to try to drive the conversation back to a common sense position. Yeah, sometimes it may seem like a Sisyphean struggle, but it needs to be done.

10 posted on 08/05/2009 3:04:43 PM PDT by AreaMan
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To: TomOnTheRun
I never quite understood how many fundamentalist Christians usually reject psychology, with the exception of "reparative therapy" quacks regarding homosexuality. Such folks have as much credibility as a "straight to gay" specialist, as you have pointed out.

The right way for Christians to handle this is to teach the importance of male/female relationships in the bible and urge folks who are same-sex oriented to live celibate lives. Just as not every heterosexual is called to marriage, not everyone is called to be hetero in orientation (as opposed to acts).

11 posted on 08/05/2009 3:06:38 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: greatdefender
The APA declaration is totally false and politically motivated.

Historic Gay Advocate Now Believes Change is Possible: - The psychiatrist who led the team that deleted homosexuality from the diagnostic manual in 1973, now says homosexuality may sometimes be changeable.

His provocative new study drew worldwide media attention at the American Psychiatric Association's annual conference on May 9th.

Dr. Robert L. Spitzer's study was funded by his department's research unit. He is Professor of Psychiatry and Chief of Biometrics at Columbia University.

"Like most psychiatrists," says Dr. Spitzer, "I thought that homosexual behavior could be resisted--but that no one could really change their sexual orientation. I now believe that's untrue--some people can and do change."...

http://www.narth.com/docs/spitzer3.html

12 posted on 08/05/2009 3:20:17 PM PDT by Kells
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To: BertWheeler
Do psychologists offer a straight-to-gay guideline?

Yes, but it also requires a religion change...


13 posted on 08/05/2009 4:01:18 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: TomOnTheRun
Yeah. I’m actually in support of this.

Actually, you shouldn't support anything the APA advocates. It is a corrupt organization that spews out lies and non-science to back the gay mafia, who have taken over control of the agency.

The fact that homosexuals have changed orientation is a fact. Even the homosexualist, and closet homosexual, child abuser, Kinsey, stated that sexuality was fluid. It is all about sexual morality. Most homosexuals are emotionally damaged--either molested or/and mentally abused when a child--or complete pagan hedonists.

Do you honestly think that people who rape babies are "born" with that orientation? APA believes it is NOT a learned behavior..which is bullcr*p.

Primates, when denied their natural mother and a natural environment produce offspring, who not only are super aggressive and antisocial, they become sexually dysfunctional (think sexual deviants Gacy, Keppler, Dahmer, Roelm, Hitler, Manson, Kinsey, --it is endless..... Abusive parenting creates sexual deviancy. By advocating and encouraging homosexuality, you are advocating child abuse.

True, in Greek and Roman societies homosexuality was glorified as in many pagan societies...Plato even mused on the glories of man-boy sex, but without Judeo-Christian influence, that was the norm......and to think it isn't a learned behavior is absurd.

15 posted on 08/05/2009 4:10:51 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie
Plato even mused on the glories of man-boy sex

Really? Do you have a citation?

16 posted on 08/05/2009 4:14:18 PM PDT by Kells
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To: Clemenza
Just as not every heterosexual is called to marriage, not everyone is called to be hetero in orientation (as opposed to acts).

Just where can that gem of theological wisdom be found in the Bible? I've been a Christian for 34 years and never found it. (At least not the second half.)

I know of at least 2 men in our church that had fallen into the homosexual lifestyle in their younger years. They came to a place of repentance, found forgiveness and new life in Christ, and are now happily married with wonderful, well-adjusted kids. So, while I am not sure about "reparative therapy", one can certainly leave the homosexual lifestyle behind with the help of God. It is just another form of sexual sin,

17 posted on 08/05/2009 4:25:48 PM PDT by CA Conservative
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To: greatdefender
150,000-member association

I wonder how many of them are gay? I'll bet the percentage is much higher than the general population.

18 posted on 08/05/2009 4:54:56 PM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: Clemenza
I never quite understood how many fundamentalist Christians usually reject psychology, with the exception of "reparative therapy" quacks regarding homosexuality. Such folks have as much credibility as a "straight to gay" specialist, as you have pointed out.

I am not a fundamentalist Christian but if you look into the post modern German philosophy, which includes Freud (vs. Classical philosophy.) It does NOT allow one to believe in God. Thus Nietsche's cry, "God is Dead!" Marx, Freud, and the whole gang's philosophy became popular in Europe in the late 1800's and led to Mussolini's Italy, Hitler's Germany and Lenin's Russia. The German philosophy is referred to as The Culture of Death or the Nihilistic culture...which the Pope references.

This paradigm came to the US through the Progressive Era (today's liberalism) and has usurped the Founders more Classical philosophy which was largely influenced by Christianity.

Psychology has a few legitimate areas where they have made a positive impact. But the majority of psychologist are frauds and their ideology is warped...based on atheism and nihilism.

Why would a Christian advocate a pseudo-science that is pressured by political activists to change their labels, without relying on scientific facts or data to back up it statements..The APA lost me when they were taken over by the gay mafia.....by caving into the pressure of the militant homosexuals to take their lifestyle choice off of the mental disorder list proved it was not a scientific organization, but a political propaganda one.

19 posted on 08/05/2009 5:04:01 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: Clemenza
The right way for Christians to handle this is to teach the importance of male/female relationships in the bible and urge folks who are same-sex oriented to live celibate lives. Just as not every heterosexual is called to marriage, not everyone is called to be hetero in orientation (as opposed to acts).

Thank you! I agree. I agree with your other statement as well. I'm baffled why they would see these sorts of people as snake-oil salesmen for everything EXCEPT orientation therapy. I believe it's clearly dangerous for people to be poking around the human mind muttering "let's see what I can improve while I'm here." It's dangerous and to be avoided if at all possible. There are legit reason to pursue therapy - I'm not sure this is one.
20 posted on 08/05/2009 5:04:59 PM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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