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To: TomOnTheRun
I never quite understood how many fundamentalist Christians usually reject psychology, with the exception of "reparative therapy" quacks regarding homosexuality. Such folks have as much credibility as a "straight to gay" specialist, as you have pointed out.

The right way for Christians to handle this is to teach the importance of male/female relationships in the bible and urge folks who are same-sex oriented to live celibate lives. Just as not every heterosexual is called to marriage, not everyone is called to be hetero in orientation (as opposed to acts).

11 posted on 08/05/2009 3:06:38 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Clemenza
Just as not every heterosexual is called to marriage, not everyone is called to be hetero in orientation (as opposed to acts).

Just where can that gem of theological wisdom be found in the Bible? I've been a Christian for 34 years and never found it. (At least not the second half.)

I know of at least 2 men in our church that had fallen into the homosexual lifestyle in their younger years. They came to a place of repentance, found forgiveness and new life in Christ, and are now happily married with wonderful, well-adjusted kids. So, while I am not sure about "reparative therapy", one can certainly leave the homosexual lifestyle behind with the help of God. It is just another form of sexual sin,

17 posted on 08/05/2009 4:25:48 PM PDT by CA Conservative
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To: Clemenza
I never quite understood how many fundamentalist Christians usually reject psychology, with the exception of "reparative therapy" quacks regarding homosexuality. Such folks have as much credibility as a "straight to gay" specialist, as you have pointed out.

I am not a fundamentalist Christian but if you look into the post modern German philosophy, which includes Freud (vs. Classical philosophy.) It does NOT allow one to believe in God. Thus Nietsche's cry, "God is Dead!" Marx, Freud, and the whole gang's philosophy became popular in Europe in the late 1800's and led to Mussolini's Italy, Hitler's Germany and Lenin's Russia. The German philosophy is referred to as The Culture of Death or the Nihilistic culture...which the Pope references.

This paradigm came to the US through the Progressive Era (today's liberalism) and has usurped the Founders more Classical philosophy which was largely influenced by Christianity.

Psychology has a few legitimate areas where they have made a positive impact. But the majority of psychologist are frauds and their ideology is warped...based on atheism and nihilism.

Why would a Christian advocate a pseudo-science that is pressured by political activists to change their labels, without relying on scientific facts or data to back up it statements..The APA lost me when they were taken over by the gay mafia.....by caving into the pressure of the militant homosexuals to take their lifestyle choice off of the mental disorder list proved it was not a scientific organization, but a political propaganda one.

19 posted on 08/05/2009 5:04:01 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: Clemenza
The right way for Christians to handle this is to teach the importance of male/female relationships in the bible and urge folks who are same-sex oriented to live celibate lives. Just as not every heterosexual is called to marriage, not everyone is called to be hetero in orientation (as opposed to acts).

Thank you! I agree. I agree with your other statement as well. I'm baffled why they would see these sorts of people as snake-oil salesmen for everything EXCEPT orientation therapy. I believe it's clearly dangerous for people to be poking around the human mind muttering "let's see what I can improve while I'm here." It's dangerous and to be avoided if at all possible. There are legit reason to pursue therapy - I'm not sure this is one.
20 posted on 08/05/2009 5:04:59 PM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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