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Journalists Freed from North Korea: Lessons Learned and Unfinished Business
AmericanInTokyo ^ | 5 August 2009 | AmericanInTokyo

Posted on 08/04/2009 6:04:32 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

Now that all the hoopla and nonstop CNN 24/7 type celebrations and TV interviews and book deals will ramp up over the release of two liberal Democrat California-based freelance/Al Gore journalists from communist North Korea, based on a Bill Clinton secret deal and eventual flying to North Korea to apologize and legitimize the dictatorial regime--developing nuclear strike capabilities and exporting said terror--I say "hold your horses", as we have important unfinished business. I would expect the MSM to gloss over these so I raise them here.


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KEYWORDS: algore; clinton; currenttv; dprk; eunalee; goretv; journalists; kimjongil; lauraling; lessons; nkorea; northkorea; pyongyang; x42
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1. Apologies

While we are on the topic of apologies, which the Obama Administration delivered through Secretary of State Clinton and then her husband yesterday visiting the belly of the beast, the United States of America is owed a clear, succinct, written or verbal formal apology by those two journalists.

Their actions and foolishness in getting too close to the North Korean border if not crossing it all together has had the defacto effect of hijacking the foreign policy of this country in a critical area of the world. To just gingerly arrive in Los Angeles with nary a word of how remorseful they are at the extreme inconvenience they have cause the United States, must not be allowed.

B. Reparations

Al Gore or whomever associated with these journalists should pay ALL COSTS connected with their rescue, with nothing being billed to the US taxpayers. This should be monitored closely by an independent auditing agency on behalf of the US government.

3. Travel Ban

The released women, Laura Ling and Euna Lee, should have their US passports confiscated. They do not own those passports. They are the property of the United States Government lent out of convenience and not as a right. They should be prohibited from any international travel for five years--or until they grow up, whichever comes first.

4. Congressional Hearings

Congressional hearings should be opened to discuss specifically just what Mr. Clinton discussed with Kim Jong il (if any sensitive policy issues were broached) and to what extent the White House sanctioned this.

5. Transparency

A full report should be made of their capture, witnesses such as camerman subpoened if necessary, to get to the bottom of what happened.

Hold the confetti and Larry King, we need facts and action and lessons learned. This is a serious undermining of American Foreign Policy and National Security, as well as an insult and inconvience to our close allies in Seoul and Tokyo by two naive and careless young Americans. People should not get off lightly for such a self-centered imposition.

1 posted on 08/04/2009 6:04:32 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Ping!


2 posted on 08/04/2009 6:05:41 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (God Bless Our US Troops (Especially the Snipers). Active Duty, Reserve and Retired. Three Cheers!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Did they have beer? Where was the school girl Hillary?


3 posted on 08/04/2009 6:06:16 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Boardwalk
Oh I am sure they washed donw the Taedonggang Beer and put that on the US taxpayer's tab (Bill!) for for sure.

Not to mention the Mighty Bent One's kipmujo carousing last night in P'yang, no doubt. $1000-2000 at least right there.

4 posted on 08/04/2009 6:09:33 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (God Bless Our US Troops (Especially the Snipers). Active Duty, Reserve and Retired. Three Cheers!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I was hoping we could trade Al Gore for the girls.


5 posted on 08/04/2009 6:11:01 PM PDT by Nachoman (Think of life as an adventure you don't survive.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Hence I recommended the "passport" clause:

family friend Wally Yang said the Ling family had "done everything they could, while respecting the North Korean government, to try and get Laura home." He predicted that Ling would remain a journalist. "Despite this terrifying experience, I can't imagine that Laura would give up her passion to tell stories that otherwise wouldn't be heard."

6 posted on 08/04/2009 6:11:25 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (God Bless Our US Troops (Especially the Snipers). Active Duty, Reserve and Retired. Three Cheers!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

The whole episode makes me gnash my teeth. The “girls” are Algore-brand fools, not journalists. Our government allowed these young women to manipulate our foreign policy relative to a loose cannon with nuclear weapons. We played right into the hands of the NoKos. Bill Clinton, of all people, is picked to rescue two young women. The NoKos get what they want, did you see the grinning photo of their Dear Leader, and the Obamoids look like idiots — but they’re representing our country. The girls return to widespread media acclaim. There are banana republics that could have handled this better. I think I am going to be sick.


7 posted on 08/04/2009 6:14:11 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Nachoman
Oh, dont worry, more Americans will be snatched by North Koreans now (as it is open season) so I am sure Al Gore will get another chance to go up there for prisoner exchange soon. If not, maybe we will see him in Teheran soon.

Grab an American while you can! Easy pickings! Good money!

8 posted on 08/04/2009 6:14:14 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (God Bless Our US Troops (Especially the Snipers). Active Duty, Reserve and Retired. Three Cheers!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

COunt on it if you got freed from NK prison I think to safe to say everybody been party on that beer charge to Taxpaper


9 posted on 08/04/2009 6:14:50 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I am afraid none in your list would take place. The following is the likely developments:

1) MSM and Dems will claim that those women are traumatized victims, who need our unlimited emotional support.

2) Live broadcast of tearful reunions to drive the above point home.

3) They would say there is ‘urgent need’ to prevent this kind of even from happening, and we should address the ‘root cause,’ which is that US and NK are still in confrontation. U.S. would be urged to start engagement in exchange fore nominal token gesture by NK on nuclear issue.

10 posted on 08/04/2009 6:15:21 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: La Lydia
Bingo! That is exactly the gist of the outrage.

And yet watch the US MSM gloat about how "wonderful" this is (of course it is for them and their families--NKorea is hell on earth) but they will gloss over the immense costs to American national security and our US troops in the field in South Korea and Japan for instance. I rate those men and women as much more important in my book than a couple of Al Gore journalists.

11 posted on 08/04/2009 6:15:59 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (God Bless Our US Troops (Especially the Snipers). Active Duty, Reserve and Retired. Three Cheers!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Concur!

I am, however, very glad they are out of that hellhole.


12 posted on 08/04/2009 6:16:09 PM PDT by Ronin (It will be helpful if Geithner can show us some arithmetic.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

That’s about the size of it.


13 posted on 08/04/2009 6:17:26 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (God Bless Our US Troops (Especially the Snipers). Active Duty, Reserve and Retired. Three Cheers!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Correction: to prevent this kind of event from happening
14 posted on 08/04/2009 6:18:40 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: Ronin
I suspect at the end of the day, their minds were just played with at bit and they were scared, but overall they were OK in the cushy government guest house with ammenities, while the Norkies figured out how to flip the stupid American bargaining chip-girls (again the photo of the US delegation and Kim Jong il, those classic facial expressions, tell the whole story and who won).

For sure, if they had been remanded into a camp 10 days after sentencing, as per NK law, they would never have been heard from again because they would have seen too much for the Norkies to again allow them out of a concentration camp to relay details to the outside world. Those two idiots had better kiss US soil at Los Angeles and badmouth the living daylights out of North Korea for at least 10 years nonstop, if you ask me.

It is absolutely humiliating for a major power, and is also read as a big embarrassment for the United States within an Asian Power context.

15 posted on 08/04/2009 6:22:38 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (God Bless Our US Troops (Especially the Snipers). Active Duty, Reserve and Retired. Three Cheers!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
#3 for sure is EXACTLY what is coming out from these LA-San Fran libs. The one's sister, Lisa Ling, already said just as much. The WHOLE PROBLEM is bound up in that the US and DPRK dont have diplomatic relations and are not getting along.

Does anyone else out there smell a rat?

16 posted on 08/04/2009 6:24:07 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (God Bless Our US Troops (Especially the Snipers). Active Duty, Reserve and Retired. Three Cheers!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
That's a big stinky rat.
17 posted on 08/04/2009 6:29:29 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: Boardwalk
Where was the school girl Hillary?

Making out like a pensioner shopping for bargains on pantsuits.

18 posted on 08/04/2009 6:30:53 PM PDT by fso301
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Again, I concur.

However, given how badly the Obama regime (I won't call it an administration anymore.) has already trashed America's reputation around the world, and especially in Asia, I am more or less numb to the consequences of Beezlebubba’s brown-nosing of the Norkies. (Interesting pejorative for the NKs, btw. First time I saw it.)

I guess I am just so hard up for anything that resembles good news, that I will take the fact that these women are free and be thankful for that.

Although I also believe they need a good swift kick in the ass for ever getting themselves in the position to begin with.

19 posted on 08/04/2009 6:33:05 PM PDT by Ronin (It will be helpful if Geithner can show us some arithmetic.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I disagree.

By in large, Americans are stupid[See who we elect: R’s & D’s] and they will do stupid things like these journalist.

However, America loves it’s citizens. Our country sends a former Pres to return it’s citizens safe.

No other country will do that. We rescue mountain climbers who do stupid things, even putting ourselves in danger.

That is who we are. If you wanna be upset at Clinton and the journalist, so be it.


20 posted on 08/04/2009 6:42:40 PM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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