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Russian Subs Patrolling Off East Coast of U.S.
The New York Times ^ | August 4, 2009 | Mark Mazzetti & Thom Shanker

Posted on 08/04/2009 3:04:17 PM PDT by Saint Reagan

WASHINGTON — A pair of nuclear-powered Russian attack submarines has been patrolling off the eastern seaboard of the United States over recent days, a rare mission that has raised concerns inside the Pentagon and intelligence agencies about a more assertive stance by the Russian military.

The episode has echoes of the cold war era, when the United States and the Soviet Union regularly parked submarines off each other’s coasts to steal military secrets, track the movements of their underwater fleets — and be poised for war.

But the collapse of the Soviet Union all but eliminated the ability of the Russian Navy to operate far from home ports, making the current submarine patrols thousands of miles from Russia even more surprising for military officials and defense policy experts.

“I don’t think they’ve put two first-line nuclear subs off the U.S. coast in about 15 years,” said Norman Polmar, a naval historian and expert on submarine warfare.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: appeasement; bhorussia; bhoussr; coldwar2; communism; kgb; navair; navy; putin; redarmy; resetbutton; russia; russianmilitary; russiannavy; russkiesop; sovietnavy; sovietunion; ussr; ussr2
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1 posted on 08/04/2009 3:04:18 PM PDT by Saint Reagan
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To: Saint Reagan

Someone needs to turn that into a .gif that turns from
“reset” to “Launch”.


2 posted on 08/04/2009 3:06:16 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Saint Reagan

Maybe they’re planning to take out Congress. Now that would be such a shame.


3 posted on 08/04/2009 3:06:40 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Saint Reagan
Russian Subs Patrolling Off East Coast of U.S.,

With a Virginia class SSN following in close proximity.

4 posted on 08/04/2009 3:08:23 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Cementjungle

They most likely have permission from whats his name.


5 posted on 08/04/2009 3:08:31 PM PDT by RC2
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To: RC2
They most likely have permission from whats his name.

They have mine too.

6 posted on 08/04/2009 3:09:39 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

I’m sure we are doing the same to them.


7 posted on 08/04/2009 3:11:45 PM PDT by DonaldC
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To: Red Steel
Russian Subs Patrolling Off East Coast of U.S.,

With a Virginia class SSN following in close proximity.


No Doubt.
8 posted on 08/04/2009 3:11:58 PM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: ScubieNuc

Maybe even the SS Texas?


9 posted on 08/04/2009 3:14:06 PM PDT by GeronL (Guilty of the crime of deviationism.)
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To: Red Steel

But probably under orders to do absolutely nothing if our Russian friends decide to do anything rash.


10 posted on 08/04/2009 3:14:11 PM PDT by wally_bert (My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre)
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To: Saint Reagan

their subs don’t even need to do anything to be a threat:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_submarine_K-219


11 posted on 08/04/2009 3:20:40 PM PDT by robertwalker62
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To: Saint Reagan

Is a military coup in the works for the U.S.? Will someone stand up and say “Enough!”


12 posted on 08/04/2009 3:21:25 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( I hate all politicians. Including republicans.)
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To: Saint Reagan

Biden said we’d be tested in the Zero administration and that we may not like the way they respond. Hope he’s wrong on both occasions. We haven’t like the way they’ve responded to anything yet.


13 posted on 08/04/2009 3:24:23 PM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: wally_bert

Why should they do anything rash? That implies that they find us threatening. The best and bravest armed forces in the world has it’s collective hands tied.


14 posted on 08/04/2009 3:25:31 PM PDT by greatplains
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To: Saint Reagan

what about their boomers?


15 posted on 08/04/2009 3:25:31 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (if the government makes trading a used car this hard how are they going to handle a doctor visit?)
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To: Saint Reagan

Fear not, Comrades. Premier Obama is my homie.

16 posted on 08/04/2009 3:25:39 PM PDT by Popman
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To: wally_bert
But probably under orders to do absolutely nothing if our Russian friends decide to do anything rash.

It's probably sailing with a training crew of inexperienced conscripts. The fear is not that they'll do something rash, but something extremely stupid.

17 posted on 08/04/2009 3:25:39 PM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: Saint Reagan

Are they trying to defect?
Should we call in U.S.S. Dallas?

Where the heck is Jack Ryan when you need him???


18 posted on 08/04/2009 3:26:58 PM PDT by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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To: Saint Reagan

What Would Sarah Do?


19 posted on 08/04/2009 3:34:50 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Saint Reagan
If the Soviet err, 'Russian' subs are just attack 'SSN' type boats, I'm not so concerned.

On the other hand, if they were armed with cruise missiles or ballistic missiles, I think I would be VERY concerned, and as other posters have mentioned, hopefully we've got some of our own subs keeping close tabs on them.
20 posted on 08/04/2009 3:36:48 PM PDT by mkjessup (Excuse me Mr. 0bama? No documentation = No eligibility, ok? Now GTF out of OUR White House, got it?)
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