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Ads for Atheism Appear on Manhattan Buses
New York Times ^ | June 25, 2009, | Daniel E. Slotnik

Posted on 06/26/2009 7:52:05 AM PDT by tlb

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To: tlb
“You don’t have to believe in God to be a moral and ethical person”

Nah, you can be a moral parasite on the prevailing culture in which you exist.

21 posted on 06/26/2009 8:26:44 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Just say "No" to socialism.)
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To: tlb

Campaign begs the question: If there is no God, what do you mean by “moral” and “ethical?”


22 posted on 06/26/2009 8:29:29 AM PDT by Madam Theophilus
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To: Westbrook
What a joyful worldview.

I prefer to base my worldview on objective reality rather than how it makes me feel. You're certainly free to do otherwise, of course.

23 posted on 06/26/2009 8:31:57 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
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To: DannyTN
Christian non profit corporations purchase advertising all the time.

Can you give an example of that? I think you are probably thinking of faith-based charities. Offhand, I can't recall any Christian organization which advertises evangelical or spiritual messages in secular media, esp. on public transportation. But then I avoid secular media whenever possible.

24 posted on 06/26/2009 8:32:29 AM PDT by hellbender
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To: Madam Theophilus
If there is no God, what do you mean by “moral” and “ethical?”

BINGO!

25 posted on 06/26/2009 8:37:58 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: tlb

I suppose this is a good thread to mention to all FReepers coming to FRisco this weekend for the Gay “Pride” festivities that there will be a free, all-day atheist film festival at the Roxie Cinema on 16th Street.

Before the parade, after the parade, anytime, it’s a good time to deny God!


26 posted on 06/26/2009 8:54:27 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Young earthers are NOT flat earthers.
Quite true...they each promote different varieties of pseudoscience

NICE TRY, THE ONLY PSEUDOSCIENCE IS EVOLUTIONISM MASQUERADING AS SCIENCE.

as least we young earthers admit the religious background behind our science.


27 posted on 06/26/2009 9:02:33 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: tlb

From the world’s perspective people certainly do not have to be a Christian to act morally and ethically. Of course, the real questions are why act morally or ethically? How does one determine what is moral or ethical? If man is a product of evolution, where did a consciousness of morality arise? No one talks about immoral cows. Christianity is not about morality or ethics, but it is a relationship to a Person, Jesus Christ. Being good is not good enough.


28 posted on 06/26/2009 9:05:53 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: hellbender

You have Churches advertising on the radio and TV all the time. Think of billboards you have seen, with spiritual messages or advertising churches. Those are secular media.
I worked for a Christian charity that ran infomercials on how to use gift annuities for estate finanical planning on TV.
There is absolutely no prohibition on tax exempt organizations advertising. The only thing they can’t do is cross the polical line and start endorsing particular candidates or campaigning against particular candidates. They can campaign for political “issues” all they want.


29 posted on 06/26/2009 9:06:29 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: hellbender

You have Churches advertising on the radio and TV all the time. Think of billboards you have seen, with spiritual messages or advertising churches. Those are secular media.
I worked for a Christian charity that ran infomercials on how to use gift annuities for estate finanical planning on TV.
There is absolutely no prohibition on tax exempt organizations advertising. The only thing they can’t do is cross the polical line and start endorsing particular candidates or campaigning against particular candidates. They can campaign for political “issues” all they want.


30 posted on 06/26/2009 9:06:31 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: tlb

1. You might not have to believe, but it helps.
2. I’ve never actually been, but my understanding is that the Port Authority Bus Terminal may actually be a hellmouth.


31 posted on 06/26/2009 9:11:06 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: veritas2002
People are more likly to consider the prospect of a God and what might mean to them, when you tell them not to acknowledge that there is a God. You can only deny the existence of something that has within itself the distinct possibility of actually existing.

Exactly. God laughs (Psalm 2).

32 posted on 06/26/2009 9:20:40 AM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.aroodawakening.tv)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

> I prefer to base my worldview on objective reality rather
> than how it makes me feel.

You mean a reality like the stuff evolutionists teach? You know, billions of years, singularity to universe, life from non-life, punctuated equilibrium, hopeful monsters, shrews to bats, dinosaurs to birds, apes to men, all conjecture based on the interpretation of evidence discovered in the present, without ever having witnessed any of it.

And in spite of any evidence that contradicts it, for example, retrograde motion in the solar system and universe in spite of the law of the conservation of angular momentum, polystrate fossils, even the very existence of fossils themselves, which require rapid entombment in an anaerobic medium.

That may be your reality, but it definitely isn’t objective.

You’re certainly free to believe it, of course.


33 posted on 06/26/2009 10:14:35 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: DannyTN

I haven’t noticed this stuff because 1) I don’t see any billboards where I live—they may be illegal here, 2) I never watch TV, 3) I don’t read newspapers, 4) about the only radio station I listen to is Christian, commercial-free, and listener-supported; although there are what could be called quasi-commercials on it. About all I remember of Christian advertising is the “Jesus Saves” billboards I used to see years ago in the South.


34 posted on 06/27/2009 8:30:35 AM PDT by hellbender
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To: hellbender
"I don’t see any billboards where I live—they may be illegal here, "

If you have billboards at all, it's not illegal for Christian groups to advertise on them. It would be a violation of first amendment rights to prohibit religious expression. I can guarantee you it's not illegal where you are.

35 posted on 06/27/2009 7:53:49 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

Yes, but I meant that billboards of any kind may be illegal here, at least in certain towns. I can’t recall seeing many. If they are present, billboards certainly aren’t achieving their purpose, because I’ve learned to tune them out!


36 posted on 06/28/2009 10:03:23 AM PDT by hellbender
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To: tlb

These ads represent well-within-the-box-atheist-group-think.

They are responding to an arguement that no one has made.

This is detailed here:

http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/06/dogmatheism-new-york-city-atheists.html


37 posted on 06/30/2009 6:48:33 AM PDT by MarianoApologeticus (Answering to no arguments)
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