This plane is goin' down in flames, and I just wanna grab my 'chute and bail. I'll forgo the free coupons for the duty free shop, and tell your mother you loved her.
As I have read take out the illegals, the young kids who don’t even think about getting sick and those who can afford it but have the notion that they won’t need it for ions and we come down to how many.
I should be the poster boy of opposition against socialized medicine.
Having had 3 heart attacks, first one at 27, last one at 37 I simply cannot afford it due to this pre-existing conditions.
I do not want ANYTHING (except secure borders and paved roads) from Uncle Sam especially their healthcare.
It was their healthcare (military doctors) that should have diagnosed me before my first attack that failed while still in the military.
I should be the poster boy of opposition against socialized medicine.
Having had 3 heart attacks, first one at 27, last one at 37 I simply cannot afford it due to this pre-existing conditions.
I do not want ANYTHING (except secure borders and paved roads) from Uncle Sam especially their healthcare.
It was their healthcare (military doctors) that should have diagnosed me before my first attack that failed while still in the military.
So, 30M uninsured into $100B = $3,333 per person per year. I have a healthcare plan that I pay about $750 per month for me, my wife, and a dependent child, or about $9,000 per year (I am in a group policy but pay full-freight - no employer subsidy or share - I know, I am not a typical policy-holder.)
So, at $3,333 x 3 of us = $10,000. So where is the frickin' savings? From my feeble math, it looks like Barry-Care will be $1,000 more expensive per year, and we KNOW there will be more costs coming for bureaucrats, waste, fraud, and lobbyist-sponsored healthcare junkets.
I know I could shop for better rates, but I like my coverage and the choices I have and I can stay with my doctor.
I know I'm missing something - so have at it....
0bama specifically said uninsured. He did not say uninsured American citizens.
If 80% or more of US citizens are ‘happy’ with their health care, that is somewhere around 60 million shy.
See Goldsmith:
The UNINSURED: 47 Million Hostages — Our Dysfunctional Health Policy Process
by Jeff Goldsmith
“What we’ve read in recent headlines was: 47 million Americans lack health insurance! Back on page 5, President Bush and Congress fight over reauthorizing the Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), which augments Medicaid coverage for children (and expires at the end of September). Looking at the data that produced the headlines makes it clearer how hard health reform is likely to be.
1. The coverage gap is widening fastest at upper incomes. Almost the entire increase in people without health insurance from 2005 to 2006 took place in families with incomes above $50,000 (median family income is $48,200). The number of uninsured people in families whose incomes were below $25,000 actually declined by about 4%.
Families with incomes above $50,000 a year account for an improbable 93% of the 2.1 million increase in the uninsured, and now represent 38% of the total uninsured in the United States. Two-thirds of the 2005-2006 increase was actually in families with incomes above $75,000!
(snip)
What we don’t know (and need to know) is exactly why nearly 18 million people whose families earn more than $50,000 a year lack health insurance. We can speculate that some of them are young, and have made what seems to them to be an intelligent gamble to “go bare” and spend the money on other things.
(snip)
The average US household presently spends about 6% of its disposable household income on healthcare; the above average income household spends much less.
(snip)
2. Non-citizens are a large part of the uninsured population. One-quarter of the 47 million uninsured are foreign born, and over 10 million are not citizens. So the correct answer to the politically incorrect Trivial Pursuit question: “How many Americans are uninsured?” is a little less than 37 million (still too many, but . . .). When you look on a map at states that have the highest percentage of uninsured, you see essentially our southern border (California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, etc.).
(NB—the usual suspect states.....)
(snip)
Even those who surmount the numerous hurdles and become legal citizens are statutorily ineligible for federally funded health benefits for five years (though some states cover them in the unmatched part of their medically indigent programs).
This is about insuring illegals and making them citizens.
http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/09/20/uninsured-increase-some-actual-facts/
“So, what we have here is a “crisis” of choice. Most of the fabled uninsured fall into two categories: people who can afford coverage but choose not to buy it and people who are eligible for government aid but choose not to apply for it.
This is not a problem that warrants a government takeover of health care.”
http://freemarketcure.com/blog/?p=186
Wouldn't that require, say, 5 million new doctors.
At least 2 million. How about half a million?
Where are they going to suddenly come from? Are you going to legislate them into existence?
Legislate that existing doctors can't retire or move?
If so, can we pass similar laws for lawyers?
If not, can we have tort reform to lower prices?
Makes sense...Obama has 47 million uninsured in his 57 states.
Yeah and 30 million of them are illegal aliens.
Does that include the suckrs with AIG?
And yet on All Barack Channel’s Good Morning Amerika, Barry told Diane Sawyer that in order to make health care affordable, we need to make coverage mandatory so we bring in healthy persons into the system who have opted out.
How many of those 47 million uninsured are those “healthy persons” who have opted out of health care?
This plane is goin' down in flames, and I just wanna grab my 'chute and bail. I'll forgo the free coupons for the duty free shop, and tell your mother you loved her.
While your attention is being diverted to this horrible bill burn the phone to your congressman by non stop calling to stop the Cap and Trade bill which is being voted on Friday!
I always pull this article out when I hear about the uninsured and how we need universal care:
NATIONAL CENTER FOR POLICY ANALYSIS
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BEING UNINSURED REMAINS A “CRISIS” OF INCOME
10-Year Census Figures Show Health Insurance Often Is a Matter of Choice
August 30, 2005
DALLAS (August 30, 2005) – The number of Americans with health insurance grew by more than 2 million people last year, but the percentage of Americans without health insurance continues to grow among higher-income households, according to the latest report released today by the Census Bureau.
“Being uninsured in America is largely a matter of choice,” said NCPA Senior Fellow Devon Herrick, who also compiled a 10-year analysis of Census Bureau figures. “The greatest and growing problem of the uninsured is among those families who can afford health insurance.”
The number of uninsured among higher-income households continued to grow last year, even though the percentage of uninsured has remained stable, according to this year’s Census report:
* Between 1995 and 2004 (data for the 2005 report), the number of uninsured with family incomes of less than $50,000 actually fell by 8 percent. The number of uninsured in households earning less than $25,000 fell by an estimated 19 percent.
* But over the same 10-year period in households earning $25,000 or more, nearly 90 percent of the increase in the uninsured has occurred among higher-income households ($50,000 or more). And the number of uninsured Americans in families earning more than $75,000 has increased by 153 percent.
“An alarming change over the past decade is the growth in the number of Americans who choose not to be insured,” Herrick said. “Among low-income households the number of Americans without coverage has changed little.”
* 40.6 million Americans were uninsured in 1995, or 15.4 percent of the population. In this year’s Census report, 15.7 percent of Americans (45.8 million) were without health insurance.
* In addition, about 10 million of the uninsured have access to Medicaid and government-sponsored health care coverage, but have not enrolled.
* Approximately one-third of foreign-born residents are without health insurance. In today’s Census report that accounted for about one-fourth of the uninsured population.
Dr. Herrick’s analysis found that the rise in the number of people with and without health insurance is mostly explained by growth in the overall population.
“Universal” health care is going to take care of 1/3 of those without insurance. The other 2/3 must be in a different universe.