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1 posted on 06/15/2009 12:51:45 PM PDT by steve-b
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Well, the entertainment industry fanned the flames of marxism and anti-capitalism and made it “fashionable.”

Reap what ye sow boys.


2 posted on 06/15/2009 12:53:46 PM PDT by NVDave
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The entertainment industry doesn’t help their own cause when they constantly pass extensions to copyrights that are about to lapse in the public domain. If these guys had their way, we’d still be paying royalties for Twain, Mozart, Scott Joplin and Nat Hawthorne.


3 posted on 06/15/2009 12:56:42 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (we also have the duty to avoid prostituting our Catholic identity by appeals to phony dialogue)
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Along the same vein—I’m trying to do the right thing and buy MP3s, and I’ve found something interesting: some HUGE bands are almost impossible to find. Aerosmith (you can only buy full albums for some of their older stuff). The Beatles (very little available, the rest is “tribute” crap). AC/DC (same as The Beatles).

I just want to buy a few choice songs. If I’m lucky, all they’ll make me do is buy an entire album for one song. Unbelievable. And they wonder why people just download the stuff free...


5 posted on 06/15/2009 1:02:36 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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Good. I find it funny that the RIAA and MPAA publish works that lionize anti-social behavior and then act shocked when people engage in pilfering of said works.
6 posted on 06/15/2009 1:18:51 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: steve-b; antiRepublicrat

Copyfraud?


8 posted on 06/15/2009 1:26:44 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Dude, when pro-piracy candidates are winning seats in European parliamentary elections, you are so toast!
10 posted on 06/15/2009 1:50:02 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Talk about a false dichotomy!

Copyright (and patent) holders are not all alike. Sometimes copyright functions as the Founders intended when they gave Congress the right to grant copyrights and patents, “To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries.”

More often than not, now, it impedes progress in science and the arts by securing to commercial interests who often are not the author or inventor of anything, exclusive rights to the works of others for seemingly unlimited times.

The most egregious example of this is the use of the state granted monopoly by Henry Holt and Co. to suppress derivative artistic works based on the works of Robert Frost. In he goth band Unto Ashes recently had to ask (and was ultimately denied) permission to use Frost’s 1928 poem “Fire and Ice” as lyrics for a song. Frost died in 1968. This is promotion of the arts? (The song recorded in Europe is really quite lovely. The lyricist wrote a parody of Frost’s poem attacking Henry Holt and Co., which replaced the track on the American CD.)

The conflict is not between copyright holders per se and the interests of society, but between commercial interests that have perverted the Constitutional basis for intellectual property law into a means of securing state-granted monopolies, which impede progress in the sciences and the arts.


13 posted on 06/15/2009 2:03:25 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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suggesting that iPods are little more than little pirate ships

Then sue Apple/ITunes then. Why go after the consumer for using the technology he or she paid for.

14 posted on 06/15/2009 2:05:19 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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Against Intellectual Property by Stephan Kinsella

63 pages.

18 posted on 06/15/2009 2:17:48 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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Copy right vs exclusive right.

Dunno... I have a natural aversion to monopolies and roadblocks to progress.

I personally think our copyright system is a mess and needs a massive reformation.

33 posted on 06/16/2009 11:35:43 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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saying that evidence is too hard to get and that the industry shouldn't be burdened to prove their cases in court

Yea tough. That's the way it works in America.

34 posted on 06/16/2009 11:41:49 AM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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Fritz Attaway suggested that it's false to assume that the rights of the industry and the interest of the public good are at odds.

Well, that is how the Constitution designed our system of copyright to be. Unfortunately, it is not that way anymore. We will no longer be at odds when the Copyright Cartel and Congress read the Constitution and truly understand the intent of copyright, and the public forgets this idea that everything should be free.

35 posted on 06/16/2009 11:44:45 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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Hey, dildo-breath! Who was it that bribed Congress to extend copy-wrong to something comparable to 10 times its original Constitutional duration, in the guise of protecting among other things, Disney works based on plots which had fallen into the public freakin’ domain? Remember that, public domain? Who was it that bribed Congress to TRY to neuter our fair use RIGHTS?


39 posted on 06/16/2009 2:22:57 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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Gross overreaching by the industry coupled with political corruption has certainly hurt their cause. Unlike many libertarians, I’m a firm believer in copyright protections, but no rational person can support the current set up.


43 posted on 06/16/2009 3:31:29 PM PDT by PAR35
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