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This bad penny just won't go away (50 Rd limit legislation in CA!)
sbsun ^ | 6/5/2009 | Jim Matthews

Posted on 06/10/2009 6:13:18 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

After being placed in the suspense file, and everyone thinking it was dead, Assembly Bill 962 is moving through the state legislature again. It passed the state Assembly Wednesday and now moves to the state Senate. How it got this far is a mystery.

In case you've forgotten, Los Angeles Assemblyman Kevin DeLeon's bill would:

1. Stop the sale of more than 50 rounds of handgun ammunition per month to individuals.

Since "handgun" ammunition is not defined anywhere in the bill, it effectively means "all" ammunition, since you can buy handguns in just about any metallic cartridge today. It would also include rimfire cartridges, which are routinely sold in 100-round packs, and are used in many handguns.

How can state government tell me I can only buy and shoot 50 rounds of ammunition per month to be competent with my handgun (or any gun)? The part of the law would effectively ban competitive shooting by civilians, if the law was followed to the letter. It would make those who live in dangerous neighborhoods less safe because gun owners would be less practiced, less trained.

How limiting how much ammunition we buy is supposed to do anything to help prevent crimes or help solve crimes is a complete mystery to anyone who has seriously examined this legislation.

(Excerpt) Read more at sbsun.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; ab962; ammo; banglist; california; callegislation; kevindeleon; shallnotbeinfringed
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1 posted on 06/10/2009 6:13:19 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

It is not intended to prevent crime.


2 posted on 06/10/2009 6:14:37 PM PDT by SandWMan (Even if you can't legislate morality, you can legislate morally.)
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Good lord, at an average cowboy action match the participants will burn up . . . lessee, six stages times 10 pistol rounds, 10 rifle rounds, 4-6 shotgun rounds . . .

Almost everyone uses the same round in their handgun AND their rifle, for convenience and safety, so that's 120 rounds in just one match. And around here you can shoot just about every Saturday if you're so inclined.

This legislation would mean a quick end to all cowboy action shooting in Cali . . . . also IPSC and the other pistol matches. And never mind actually practicing . . . .

3 posted on 06/10/2009 6:17:12 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: SandWMan

This is blatantly unconstitutional.

Ammo : Guns :: Pens : Freedom of Speech

Imagine a limit on the number of pens one could buy?


4 posted on 06/10/2009 6:18:08 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: SandWMan

Youe assesssment is correct. It is meant to control the people. And as evidenced by the 2008 election, most people that voted wish to be owned and controlled by the government.


5 posted on 06/10/2009 6:18:48 PM PDT by sport
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To: Red in Blue PA

That’s the reason why we shoot in NV, not mexifornia.


6 posted on 06/10/2009 6:19:23 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Red in Blue PA

They can’t control guns so they will try and control ammo. Hillary Clinton talked about doing this same thing years ago.


7 posted on 06/10/2009 6:23:38 PM PDT by RC2
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To: max americana; All

This bill will most likely die (though with CA who knows?), but it should serve as a clarion call to all gun owners precisely what the anti-gunners are thinking.

Nothing is off the table for them. Not 50 round monthly limits; not total gun confiscation.

Make absolutely no mistake about it.


8 posted on 06/10/2009 6:24:23 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

50 rounds a month? That’s 20 minutes range time at a leisurely pace including reloading.

As if ammo smuggling wouldn’t happen.

It will in fact create criminals out of law abiding citizens. Eventually even the most timid creature will attack when backed far enough into a corner.


9 posted on 06/10/2009 6:24:32 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: Malsua

10 posted on 06/10/2009 6:25:30 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
"..."handgun" ammunition is not defined anywhere in the bill, it effectively means "all" ammunition..."

Or, it could just as easily me no ammunition is limited.

For years as my son was growing up, he would buy any type of ammunition in Wisconsin that he wanted. I once asked the clerk about selling "handgun" ammo to minors and he simply showed me a rifle that fired the same cartridge.

Answered my question!

11 posted on 06/10/2009 6:27:12 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: SandWMan

But I thought “assault rifles” were the criminals weapon of choice? Are there even enough sane people in California to vote these morons out of office? If not, I think it’s time to start erecting a border fence along the eastern boundary of the state to keep them in.


12 posted on 06/10/2009 6:29:40 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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To: Red in Blue PA
How can state government tell me I can only buy and shoot 50 rounds of ammunition per month to be competent with my handgun (or any gun)

Bacause they can. Do you REALLY think you live in a free country anymore?

They call you "citizen" but in reality you are now a "subject."

May I see your papers please?

13 posted on 06/10/2009 6:29:40 PM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
How limiting how much ammunition we buy is supposed to do anything to help prevent crimes or help solve crimes is a complete mystery to anyone who has seriously examined this legislation.

Think it through, think it through, if you can...

America -- a great idea, didn't last.

14 posted on 06/10/2009 6:31:27 PM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Meanwhile the Obamunist media ridicules the “paranoid gun nuts” for stockpiling ammo.


15 posted on 06/10/2009 6:31:40 PM PDT by Hugin (GSA! (Goodbye sweet America))
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To: skimbell

With the tax rate to go to a whooping 9.75%, I would think they would love any sales that happen...here they are BROKE, and this is what they worry about.....go bankrupt and the sooner, the better, CA. I will move when I can.


16 posted on 06/10/2009 6:31:48 PM PDT by Achilles Heel
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Meanwhile the Obamunist media ridicules the “paranoid gun nuts” for stockpiling ammo.

Bingo!
17 posted on 06/10/2009 6:35:01 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Of course it is. And?

What are you going to do? Shoot the person that won't sell you more than 50 rounds? Maybe post on the Internet some more? Maybe try and pen one more scathing op-ed piece or a fiery letter to your elected Representation? Maybe file a law suit?

Yeah... That'll do the trick....

18 posted on 06/10/2009 6:38:41 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Hugin

You aren’t actually paranoid if they really are out to get you.


19 posted on 06/10/2009 6:39:20 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Red in Blue PA

This will require registration and a system to let ammo vendors know someone has not purchased ammo an hour ago.

Otherwise the state may not find out that someone has purchased 50 rounds at one store, then a single round at another until months have gone by.


20 posted on 06/10/2009 6:43:18 PM PDT by DBrow
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