Posted on 06/10/2009 6:13:18 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA
After being placed in the suspense file, and everyone thinking it was dead, Assembly Bill 962 is moving through the state legislature again. It passed the state Assembly Wednesday and now moves to the state Senate. How it got this far is a mystery.
In case you've forgotten, Los Angeles Assemblyman Kevin DeLeon's bill would:
1. Stop the sale of more than 50 rounds of handgun ammunition per month to individuals.
Since "handgun" ammunition is not defined anywhere in the bill, it effectively means "all" ammunition, since you can buy handguns in just about any metallic cartridge today. It would also include rimfire cartridges, which are routinely sold in 100-round packs, and are used in many handguns.
How can state government tell me I can only buy and shoot 50 rounds of ammunition per month to be competent with my handgun (or any gun)? The part of the law would effectively ban competitive shooting by civilians, if the law was followed to the letter. It would make those who live in dangerous neighborhoods less safe because gun owners would be less practiced, less trained.
How limiting how much ammunition we buy is supposed to do anything to help prevent crimes or help solve crimes is a complete mystery to anyone who has seriously examined this legislation.
(Excerpt) Read more at sbsun.com ...
It is not intended to prevent crime.
Almost everyone uses the same round in their handgun AND their rifle, for convenience and safety, so that's 120 rounds in just one match. And around here you can shoot just about every Saturday if you're so inclined.
This legislation would mean a quick end to all cowboy action shooting in Cali . . . . also IPSC and the other pistol matches. And never mind actually practicing . . . .
This is blatantly unconstitutional.
Ammo : Guns :: Pens : Freedom of Speech
Imagine a limit on the number of pens one could buy?
Youe assesssment is correct. It is meant to control the people. And as evidenced by the 2008 election, most people that voted wish to be owned and controlled by the government.
That’s the reason why we shoot in NV, not mexifornia.
They can’t control guns so they will try and control ammo. Hillary Clinton talked about doing this same thing years ago.
This bill will most likely die (though with CA who knows?), but it should serve as a clarion call to all gun owners precisely what the anti-gunners are thinking.
Nothing is off the table for them. Not 50 round monthly limits; not total gun confiscation.
Make absolutely no mistake about it.
50 rounds a month? That’s 20 minutes range time at a leisurely pace including reloading.
As if ammo smuggling wouldn’t happen.
It will in fact create criminals out of law abiding citizens. Eventually even the most timid creature will attack when backed far enough into a corner.
Or, it could just as easily me no ammunition is limited.
For years as my son was growing up, he would buy any type of ammunition in Wisconsin that he wanted. I once asked the clerk about selling "handgun" ammo to minors and he simply showed me a rifle that fired the same cartridge.
Answered my question!
But I thought “assault rifles” were the criminals weapon of choice? Are there even enough sane people in California to vote these morons out of office? If not, I think it’s time to start erecting a border fence along the eastern boundary of the state to keep them in.
Bacause they can. Do you REALLY think you live in a free country anymore?
They call you "citizen" but in reality you are now a "subject."
May I see your papers please?
Think it through, think it through, if you can...
America -- a great idea, didn't last.
Meanwhile the Obamunist media ridicules the “paranoid gun nuts” for stockpiling ammo.
With the tax rate to go to a whooping 9.75%, I would think they would love any sales that happen...here they are BROKE, and this is what they worry about.....go bankrupt and the sooner, the better, CA. I will move when I can.
What are you going to do? Shoot the person that won't sell you more than 50 rounds? Maybe post on the Internet some more? Maybe try and pen one more scathing op-ed piece or a fiery letter to your elected Representation? Maybe file a law suit?
Yeah... That'll do the trick....
You aren’t actually paranoid if they really are out to get you.
This will require registration and a system to let ammo vendors know someone has not purchased ammo an hour ago.
Otherwise the state may not find out that someone has purchased 50 rounds at one store, then a single round at another until months have gone by.
The point may be that, once the law is in place, it will prove technically impossible to implement, so all ammo sales must cease until an instant registration, electronic transmittal, and chipping all purchasers can be put in place.
That is after all the point of “Smart Gun” laws, make it impossible to make a handgun that has shells that walk to the forensics lab and give a voice description of the shooter.
I would laugh at the 2nd line of your post, but I think that is PRECISELY what most liberal, urban elites fantacize about.
We've become too civilized.
Well I am a liberal urban elite. What’s wrong with self-reporting ammo?
It would only report an illegal gun discharge and so would not infringe on the second installment rights of hunters and sportsmen.
Never mind. That's all antiquated thought now. It's the new Amerika.
Bingo ! As my dear wife is fond of saying. “Pass all the laws you want lets see you enforce them” When Cali. is wondering about where the $$$ will come from for welfare payments lets see them run this money pit through.
Ask the pol about the number of California crimes in the last 10 years that used more than 50 rounds of ammo.
Facts never got in the way of silly legislation.
This “feels” good to the urban masses....that’s all that matters.
The gun-control scum know what's coming so they are desperate to minimize the number of rnds that will be coming their way.
This would immediately come under 2A attack and would lose.
If the citizens of those states are so lazy as to let THEIR legislators get away with such nonsense, they deserve what they getting!
But if they turn off entertainment tonight and join in the fight... I'll stand up next to them!
don’t most people that shoot CAS, IDPA, IPSC, etc load their own? how would this law effect reloaders?
The real problem is, of course, that even the reloaders wouldn't be able to get more brass when we wore out the stuff we have. And it DOES eventually wear out, every time you resize it you flex it and it eventually cracks. The heavier the loads the faster it happens.
In other words, it wouldn't affect reloaders right away but it would cut off our supply of brass. And that would bring things to a screeching halt for us too, just a little further down the line.
Eventually California is going to find a breaking point, where disregard of the law bears the same hassles as complying with it. Civil disobedience is always an option.
HELLO reloaders!!!
FYI, there is no NEED for the Supremes to consider 2nd Amendment “Incorporation”! FACT: The 2nd Amendment is SELF-incorporated to all government entities at every level. It is MORE ABSOLUTE than the 1st Amendment, or any of the others, because the wording forbids not only CONGRESS, but ANYONE from infringing on it. The 1st says “Congress shall make no law...”. The 2nd say “shall NOT be infringed!” Period! End of debate!
The Second Amendment’s Achilles Heel.
Ammo.
;>)
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