Skip to comments.Ammo hard to find as gun owners stock up
Posted on 05/04/2009 10:33:03 PM PDT by FromLori
shops across the country are reporting a run on ammunition, a phenomenon apparently driven by fear that the Obama administration will increase taxes on bullets or enact new gun-control measures.
Ron Cardwell fires his 9 mm semiautomatic at a paper target at a range in Aurora, Colorado. 1 of 3
"In the last two months it's gotten very, very difficult to find ammunition," says Richard Taylor, manager of The Firing Line, a gun shop and shooting range in the Denver, Colorado, suburbs.
"There are a lot of rumors floating around that the present government would like to increase taxes on ammunition. I think [there is] just a lot of panicked buying going on."
While campaigning for the White House, Obama supported re-enacting the now-expired ban on assault weapons. But there is no indication that the administration will take up that measure -- or any other gun-control initiative --anytime soon.
Nonetheless, some gun owners aren't taking any chances.
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Apparently CNN has resorted to reporting on news that isn’t new. Memo to CNN: We all knew about this back in January!
7.62x39 just came in! Look to your sources. .223/5.56 has been available for a few weeks. Good until the demonrats do an AWB with their new supermajority.
With the radicals we have running the White House and Congress, it's only a matter of time.
This whole thing has me confused. Brother was looking for ammo in San Antonio - wanted to go plinking. Local shops were out or expensive. Then went online, and Cabela’s had 9mm at normal prices. Gee, think the press could check out the website of one of the biggest sporting goods stores in the world?
Im now convinced that this is mostly hype to create fear of those “gun nuts.”
It will not come by way of legislation. I will come by way of international treaty. Obama has already alluded to this while in South America sucking up to Chavez.
With the radicals we have running the White House and Congress, it's only a matter of time.
It ain't for lack of want.
What was the “normal” price?
...and all the Mexico drug cartel violence with “American” guns.
Try putting some of that 9mm into your shopping cart. You will get a message telling you that the ammo is out of stock. Cabela's has mormal prices on ammo that they do not have in stock.
Just seems to me that in a capitalist system, when there is a shortage of something, somebody makes more or finds it somewhere to meet demand. Can't we get ammo from the Philippines or Turkey or somewhere on the planet? The Somali pirates seem to have enough. Back in the day, we used to get it from China or Yugoslavia before the bent one messed that up. I know Obama could get it from his revolutionary buddies in Kenya that are shooting Christians. When the cops can't get ammo and the Mexican drug lords can, we have a problem. How about Hugo Chavez or the FARC? Obama know them pretty good.
In 2000, it was common for my wife and I to each expend 400 rds of 38SPL at the indoor range each week. I reloaded the expended brass on Sunday night while listening to Matt Drudge on the radio. Since moving to Idaho, we are down to shooting about 100 rounds annually. It's a matter of having "free tine", "good weather" and sufficient ammo of the type we desire to shoot and access to the range. I enjoy plinking and target shooting. I purchase a hunting license each year. I have yet to do any hunting in Idaho.
Lately, our free time has been directed to riding our motorcycles. It's cheaper per unit time as a form of entertainment. It's cheaper as transportation than traveling in the 4x4 trucks. We need the 4x4s for winter weather when the streets are covered with deep snow and ice. The bikes are perfect for nice weather. Given the crappy state of the American car industry, I plan to get as much life out of my vehicles as possible.
There is no lack of demand. There is a lack of manufacturing capacity AND a tight credit market. We have stores closing all over town. They can't get the money to put stock on the floor. The big sporting goods store, Sportsmanswarehouse, closed our local store. The parking lot was full everyday with customers buying the closeout stock. It was full everyday before the closeouts started. The problem was inability to keep the shelves stocked. It was pitiful to watch. Another 30 to 60 people lost jobs from that store alone.
Individuals who are buying much larger quantities than they can use are the problem. ...for example, purchasers of primers, who buy from tens of thousands to 700 cases. Some are doing that for the purpose of reselling at higher prices (more bubble speculators), and some, with fantasies about equipping small (very small) armies of untrained nitwits. Others yet, believe it or not, having caught on to the shortage, are buying monstrous quantities for the sole purpose of depriving Second Amendment supporters.
But they’ll exhaust their wads of money for such weirdness soon enough. Ammo and components will be available again and probably quite a bit cheaper, as the idiots are laid off from their jobs and begin to starve.
For all who are looking for ammo online, try ammoengine.com Its a site that helps you find the best price online and gives you links and cost as unit, and per round. Just select the type of ammo you are looking for, and it gives the info and links.
Ammunition is available at decent prices, you just have to look harder than you used to.
Was in Cabellas in Hamburg PA today and the handgun ammo didn't exist. (They did have .327 Federal Magnum)
That was a great suggestion. Thanks you.
bump. Thanks for the site. You wouldn’t happen to be a member of bb.com would you?
I haven’t seen any ammo in Southern Oregon in months.
All the usual stores are bare, literally bare, except for one or two boxes of rare calibers.
I can’t even find .22 long rifle. The most common ammo in the entire world. And, almost useless for armed conflict.
I'm hearing they have ammo at ridiculous prices. They have reloading supplies to match the prices of their ammo. I just got 500 rounds of .308's off a web site to feed my M1A and my wife's first comment was "Why don't you get 1000 and sell 500 to pay for the other 500?" I said, well, if I get the 1000 rounds, ain't nobody gettin a damn round from me. I've always been a hoarder and my wife has always had the business sense. She just don't understand bump firing a clip or 2 and everybody looking at you with admiration. The more you have, the more you have, I always say.
Can’t remember the exact price, but it was around $15 for a box of 50 Federal.
Maybe he was lucky on the timing?
If these prices are decent to you, thats ok with me. I just checked ammoengine.com I don't need more ammo bad enough to pay the prices I saw there.
“Individuals who are buying much larger quantities than they can use are the problem.”
That is called “hoarding” and “profiteering” in the Marxist lexicon. In a functional free market, that doesn’t happen.
Sorry if you didn’t know that or take it in the wrong way, but your buying into a false worldview here...
Walmart is now rationing ammo. Six boxes per customer per day.
I got about 2000 rounds for my 10/22 before it dried up and am taking the Czechomatic route for my handgun needs.
took me about 2.5 months to get half a case of 9mm from cabelas online. Just got the second installment of the order a few days ago actually.
Most of what’s available in 9mm is from Russia and non-reloadable. Word is the ammo manufacturers are running 24x7. The military has a shortfall too, apparently. But ammo is available although more expensive than normal. I just got 500 rds of Wolf 9mm luger at around $16.00/box of 50 - usually more like $12. But I’ve got it now.
I went to the Bill Goodman gun show in Nashville this past weekend. The only .380 ammunition I saw was three small boxes of premium hollow points. The price for a small box of 20 .380 cartridges was $51.95.
Speculating on the ammo availability, there are two-three forces coming to a juncture —
1) Part of O’s legislation dream list will outlaw reloaded ammo (require manufacturer’s markings on loadings).
2) Another part of the dream list puts ammo beyond regular owners’ reach by taxing it exorbitantly.
If the ammo tax legislation is to apply to ammo manufactured after a specific date, then manufacturers and distributors place themselves in position to divert a healthy chunk of their stock to inventory to wait on the tax increase. Then pre-tax manufactured ammo would be sold next to taxed ammo, but at the same price. The resulting windfall goes to producers’ pockets (and, of course, to lobbyists and representatives’ campaign funds).
It ain’t hype. Ammo can be had but you pay double what it was last year.
I live in MA, and was unable to find 9mm ammo. Not surprising, I guess.
I just bought five cannisters of ammo for my Garand from the CMP, and it took me three months to get it.
I just spent 10 days driving around the country, was down in Tenneseee...went to a Walmart and bought all the 9mm ammo they had to bring back with me. It was only five boxes, but hey...better than only having one clip to load for protection.
If anyone's interested the CMP (www.odcmp.com) also has some Garands, Carbines and a few 03 and 03A3's for sale. The posted waiting time is 3-6 months though.
Winchester and Federal are using almost all of the components to produce their ammo... which is of higher profit margins. Components will appear in quantity when they catch up with backorders. NRA and Arfcom (AR15.com) are the sources.
I've got about 200 rounds of precisely reloaded .380 88gr. JHP which I've posted online here. No one wants to drive to where I am to get it. So, things aren't as bad as the media, etc. are making it out to be.
No, he doesn't want to go there....
I just checked (05MAY2009, 0744) at Cabelas. Sure, they list lots of 9mm (and other) ammunition. At close to normal prices, as well.
IT'S ALL BACKORDERED.
Most of the other online dealers specify up front whether the item is in stock. Cabelas only puts up the backorder warning when you try to put the item in your "shopping cart".
Two weekends ago, the guys selling bulk ammo (at mildly inflated prices) had stuff from USA, Russia, Czech Republic, Serbia and UK. It sold out on the first day.
Exactly what I was thinking. Our local Walmarts recently got in .45 and 9mm.....and even boxes of .380 were on the shelf!
Plus the cost of shipping ammo adds a lot to the order.
Problem is, I don't think that this stuff is making it into the country right now.
I've been hearing that our communist overlords are making it extremely difficult for importers to bring in the bulk Russian ammo.
Yeah, I know that I'm just working with rumors here, but does anyone have any information on this? Has anyone ordered the sealed spam cans of ammo (from Cabelas or anywhere) and actually had them arrive?
I recently bought .45 and 9mm at Walmart for the same price as a year ago.
Anyone buying food and ammunition may not be the idiot you think they are.