[chuckles]

My daughter just went through gun qualification for her cop school in Lufkin Texas. The course provides her with 500 rounds for whatever caliber gun she declared at the start of school. She declared her 9mm. She had a mix of Winchester, Lawman, UMC, and some other various brands. I don't think she had more than 2 boxes of the same ammo. They had great difficulty getting the ammo together for the class. They usually get Lawman ammo only from the Nacogdoches Police dept, but they are having difficulty also.

Just seems to me that in a capitalist system, when there is a shortage of something, somebody makes more or finds it somewhere to meet demand. Can't we get ammo from the Philippines or Turkey or somewhere on the planet? The Somali pirates seem to have enough. Back in the day, we used to get it from China or Yugoslavia before the bent one messed that up. I know Obama could get it from his revolutionary buddies in Kenya that are shooting Christians. When the cops can't get ammo and the Mexican drug lords can, we have a problem. How about Hugo Chavez or the FARC? Obama know them pretty good.

[Myrddin]

Just seems to me that in a capitalist system, when there is a shortage of something, somebody makes more or finds it somewhere to meet demand.

There is no lack of demand. There is a lack of manufacturing capacity AND a tight credit market. We have stores closing all over town. They can't get the money to put stock on the floor. The big sporting goods store, Sportsmanswarehouse, closed our local store. The parking lot was full everyday with customers buying the closeout stock. It was full everyday before the closeouts started. The problem was inability to keep the shelves stocked. It was pitiful to watch. Another 30 to 60 people lost jobs from that store alone.

[tgusa]

Most of what’s available in 9mm is from Russia and non-reloadable. Word is the ammo manufacturers are running 24x7. The military has a shortfall too, apparently. But ammo is available although more expensive than normal. I just got 500 rds of Wolf 9mm luger at around $16.00/box of 50 - usually more like $12. But I’ve got it now.

[LibLieSlayer]

Lake City... the Government armory run by Federal, is on target to produce 2 billion rounds by end of year. Americans have purchased 1.5 billion rounds since November... they are pumping out ammo as quickly as possible... most of what comes online today, is filling backorders placed months ago. Ammo is available... but one must order online and get in the cue.

LLS

[ArrogantBustard]

Been to a gun show lately?

Two weekends ago, the guys selling bulk ammo (at mildly inflated prices) had stuff from USA, Russia, Czech Republic, Serbia and UK. It sold out on the first day.

[El Gato]

Just seems to me that in a capitalist system, when there is a shortage of something, somebody makes more or finds it somewhere to meet demand. Can't we get ammo from the Philippines or Turkey or somewhere on the planet?

The factories in the US are running 24/7. What more do you want? The owners of those factories are probably, and understandably, reluctant to buy more machines and floor space, for a couple of reasons. First, the high demand probably won't last all that long (they could be wrong about that of course). Second, The Messiah might make that investment worthless overnight, say by banning all ammo, that isn't micro-stamped on both the bullet and the case with matching numbers no doubt. Plus requiring "Green" (that is lead less) bullets and primers. (Police exempted of course).

As far as imports go, I haven't heard much about them, but imports are very subject to "regulation" by the executive branch alone, and must be approved well in advance.