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1 posted on 05/01/2009 9:36:15 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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2 posted on 05/01/2009 9:37:40 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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Brian Thomas outdoes himself in his half baked review of literature and drawing conclusion from thin air.


4 posted on 05/01/2009 9:39:33 AM PDT by FormerRep
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Look dude, get with the program. Science is only science if it supports evolution. Anything else needs to disappear into the memory hole.


5 posted on 05/01/2009 9:40:01 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Third Parties are for the weak, fearful, and ineffectual among us.)
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Good article. This looks like a good website.


6 posted on 05/01/2009 9:40:53 AM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)
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This research adds to a growing list of biological examples of recent, rapid variation within kinds,3 which would be expected within a living world made only thousands of years ago.

"Recent", but somehow never contemporary.

7 posted on 05/01/2009 9:47:36 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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Genesis 1:26
Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”


8 posted on 05/01/2009 9:57:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (If Keynesian economics worked, Zimbabwe would be a superpower.......................)
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Are you serious?

Are there actually intelligent people out there that “don’t believe in evolution”?

While the *details* of how evolution works are constantly undergoing both small refinements and some significant scale change from time to time (that’s what science is about after all) there is NO doubt that the finely graded diversity of life (see Darwin’s Finches as the classic example) at the species level, with lots of easy to measure gradients in gene variety frequencies within species, is a result of “evolution”.

Now it is true that as we learn more, especially about the bio-chemistry of the cell, the mechanisms of evolution are turning out to be way more complex than we learned (way back in the 60s in my case!)in High School, but in it’s broad strokes the “truth” of evolution is as well supported, actually probably better supported, than the theory that the Earth rotates around the Sun!!!

I suppose I’ve pissed off the Ptolemaics now, too!


9 posted on 05/01/2009 10:03:33 AM PDT by memetic
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Did you check to see if it smelled the same!!!


13 posted on 05/01/2009 10:16:51 AM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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ALL- The conversation is going to quickly break into an evolution vs. creation slug fest... read the article please.

Racial variations have rarely been argued to be part of macro evolution. WRONG debate folks.

What this article provides evidence for is a rapid migration of human that caused racial difference in a short period of time relative to human history.

Here you go..

The authors of the study proposed that climate and diet were “capable to generate large craniofacial divergence in a short period of time...

This provides support of the Biblical Story of the Tower of Babel...

16 posted on 05/01/2009 10:29:47 AM PDT by 11th Commandment (Proud Member of the DHS radical list since 2008)
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The answer to the question is SUBSEQUENT evolutionary changes! Evolution is STILL GOING ON NOW, remember.


17 posted on 05/01/2009 10:41:53 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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The more you post ignorant crap, the more you turn persuadable people against you.


19 posted on 05/01/2009 10:45:04 AM PDT by staytrue
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A) Studying a single focal point in geography will ahrdly net a blanket statement.

2) THIS: Even today there is a great deal of potential for marked variation in a single generation (and there was undoubtedly much more 6,000 years ago). For example, a British couple with medium skin tone recently had twins, one with dark skin and the other with light.

.....is a BOLD FACED DECEPTION. The parents of these twins were bi-racial, they had white mothers and black fathers and they retain the genes from both parents, expressed or not....that means they pass on the genes from their parents to their kids...expressed or not....so, as you can read futher along than the unscientific author of this POS article wants you to: "It's not truly a pure black parent with a pure white parent. You had both parents who are already mixed racially so that when they go back together you can get both extremes," .

The author sure can dupe the willing, but anyone that's EVER taken a simple Genetics class would understand the deception.

Just because there are OTHER things that affect a population.....does not discount the ToE. We, as the People of the United States have changed in appearance too, as we're taller now as a population in large part due to a better diet. That doesn't mean that The ToE is invalid.

Selective quoting rounds out the deception. The author forgot this part: "......the patterns of variation within and between populations are too different to be explained by genetic drift alone."

That means that genetic drift is ALSO part of the reason.....but that other factors can ALSO be a part of the whole story.

....and once again "Evos unwittingly wind up supporting creation AGAIN".....you couldn't be further from the truth.

The sky appears blue...."see Evos are once again proving creation"

20 posted on 05/01/2009 10:51:51 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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You do have a knack of getting under the skin of the monkey people, don't you?


I love it....and keep it up.
32 posted on 05/01/2009 11:40:31 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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References

Perez, S.I., and L. R. Monteiro. 2009. Nonrandom Factors in Modern Human Morphological Diversification: A Study of Craniofacial Variation in Southern South American Populations. Evolution. 63 (4): 978-993.


Brian Thomas MS* reads something he clearly doesn’t understand and jumps to conclusions about what he thinks (makes that “wishes”) it means and writes a short garbled article on it on a religious website and we’re all supposed to believe him when he states “No Evolution Found” based on the one paragraph abstract linked to in his footnote.

Parker, G. 2006. Creation: Facts of Life. Green Forest, Arkansas: Master Books, 126-146.

Gary Parker – another member of the Institute for Creation Research.

See, for example, Thomas, B. Snail Changes Outpace Evolution’s Slow Crawl. ICR News. Posted on icr.org April 14, 2009, accessed April 20, 2009.

Brian Thomas footnoting to….himself….

One Twin’s White, the Other’s Black: Twins’ Parents Both Have White Mothers, Black Fathers. ABC News. Posted on abcnews.com April 7, 2006, accessed April 20, 2009.

Footnoting to an ABC News story is not exactly what I call a reliable source and certainly not something that one would find in a serious scientific article. Plus the fact he totally misrepresented it.

Colossians 1:16: “For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him.”

Well that just proves everything (sarcasm) ….well it does prove that “Creation Science” is not about “Science” at all.

* Mr. Thomas is Science Science Fiction Writer at the Institute for Creation Creation Religious Literalism Research.
33 posted on 05/01/2009 11:44:21 AM PDT by Caramelgal (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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A curious necessity for YECers is that racial differences, microevolution, must occur at a rate more rapid than classic Darwinists assume. And that degradation of the genome (as in accumulation of “junk DNA) is rapidly occurring.


35 posted on 05/01/2009 11:46:43 AM PDT by cookcounty (Late-term abortion advocate Barack Obama preaching about torture. How stupid can you get?)
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Still waiting for the creationists to publish their book of kinds.


39 posted on 05/01/2009 12:00:20 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Divine intervention in the evolutionary process. Phew, that’s resolved.


46 posted on 05/01/2009 12:26:43 PM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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And since typical evolutionary processes such as mutation and genetic drift supposedly occur randomly

Once again, GGGs posts an article that leads off with a false premise ....

73 posted on 05/01/2009 6:49:05 PM PDT by ColdWater
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