Are you serious?
Are there actually intelligent people out there that “don’t believe in evolution”?
While the *details* of how evolution works are constantly undergoing both small refinements and some significant scale change from time to time (that’s what science is about after all) there is NO doubt that the finely graded diversity of life (see Darwin’s Finches as the classic example) at the species level, with lots of easy to measure gradients in gene variety frequencies within species, is a result of “evolution”.
Now it is true that as we learn more, especially about the bio-chemistry of the cell, the mechanisms of evolution are turning out to be way more complex than we learned (way back in the 60s in my case!)in High School, but in it’s broad strokes the “truth” of evolution is as well supported, actually probably better supported, than the theory that the Earth rotates around the Sun!!!
I suppose I’ve pissed off the Ptolemaics now, too!
Lol are *you* serious?
Some intelligent people actually still believe in evolution? When are you lot going to be intellectually honest enough to admit that belief in evolution requires at least as much faith as belief in God?
==Are you serious?
Yes. Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of creation and the fall.
One statement I constantly hear from the evo side of the fight is, “Given enough time...” they’ll find evidence that doesn’t raise more questions and it answers, or we’ll eventually see, first hand evolution in progress, and not just variations on a theme.
Funny thing about it all is that “Given enough time...” is the same thing that comes out of the mouths of liberals when pointing out the flaws/failures of their theories and policies.
Connection?
Details of how evolution works constantly changing? You mean like Darwin said two plus two equals five but the Bible says no, two plus two equals four.
The Darwinist responds that its been found that two plus three equals five so the ideas of Darwin are correct.
Last time I checked, the earth “rotates” on its axis and ‘revolves’ around the sun.
So, let’s see. You refuse to refer to evolution as a theory, instead stamping it as “the ‘truth’” and then call the notion of the earth’s rotating (sic) around the sun a “theory.” Then, you have the temerity to rhetorically state that no intelligent person questions evolution.
Hmm. So you are giving more credibility to a process that you cannot directly observe than you give to one that you can observe, even with the naked eye (and no, viruses and fruitflies don’t count since the distinction between their species has always been in dispute).
No, I am a Ph.D. who no longer believes in evolution between species, any more than I believe that humans have caused global warming. I began my own “evolution” to this position while a graduate student at Rice University.
Told by my oh so evolutionist professors to attend a lecture by Fred Hoyle, “one of the greatest scientists of our age,” I heard a lifelong Darwinist who questioned evolution. He presented a very broken fossil record which cast a pall over the entire auditorium. Afterwards, the very professors who had sung Hoyle’s virtues told me that the old boy was obviously senile.
Of course, this was a while back and I am told that much of the fossil record has since been filled in. Funny, I was told the same thing before Hoyle’s speech.
Before Hoyle’s speech and the reaction to it, I WAS an evolutionist. But now I simply don’t believe the evolutionary crowd. They have simply lied to me too many times to have any credibility.
In your book, I am probably stupid. I will bear up under that label.
“—there is NO doubt that the finely graded diversity of life (see Darwin’s Finches as the classic example) at the species level,-—”
Actually, there are those with lots of doubts.
Dynamic variation within a species was observed by creationists before there were capital E “Evolutionists.”
http://www.iconsofevolution.com/articles.php3
Why do the Galapagos finches quickly return to original phenotype? Why haven’t they become new species?
Oh yeah, time. It’s conveniently beyond the investigatory horizon.
Which means you don’t know. You’re guessing. Maybe it’s a good guess, but the fact remains, you don’t know.
That was one of my favorite pictures of Jesus when I was a boy. I had one of them bibles that zipped up around the edge. Jesus looked PISSED OFF so he did. I could relate to that. Couldn't never get too much satisfaction out of all the wussified 'turn the cheek' stuff.
I admire your courage. I guess somebody has to get in here and slog away. Just glad it aint me.
Just so you know though- you won't ever change any of these people's minds. And I mean never. If Jesus turned up and told them Darwin was right- they'd run him off the thread too.
To the religious, you represent Satan. You are his agent. (or her agent- I kind of like the idea of a Satan a fella could fornicate with) You are actually giving them an opportunity to participate in a sort of Christian jihad. They get brownie points in heaven for taking up for god. You know- higher cloud, shinier harp, closer walks with him etc.
It's like beating your head against a concrete wall. But I understand that too.
Well, I've drawn enough fire I guess. I better E and E while the getting's good.
good luck